Please stop the tournament comparison discussion. Especially regarding players their runs (Stephano seems to be the current topic). Stay on topic and stick to the games. Consequences will be met out to further derailment.
On November 26 2011 04:27 BlackGosu wrote: [quote] ???
thorzain was the best euro at one point
Best foreigner terran still. (If I'm not forgetting someone obvious.)
Kas is up there. Team Empire got some fierce terrans. Other that that? Select. DeMuslim is not.
Why is Demuslim not considered good? Anyways, don't forget about Strelok either. And . . . I think that is it.
Of course he is "good" but I do not reconsider him to be up there with the others. He's top among the NA terrans tho, if it's ok to count him as one of them. Forgot about Strelok. He's pretty solid.
Lol, NA Terrans, I forgot that. Is there any good NA Terran atm? I'm looking at NA GM right now, and there is NoNge, who is most likely some korean smurf. And then NamhciR...Are your serious? NA needs to Terran it up fast and serious :D Terran does seem to be the harder race. The weaker the ladder, the less you see Terrans
Hmm, Drewbie maybe? Or dde? Pokebunny? Trimaster) The list of good NA Terrans seems very short. But this can be also said for Protoss or zerg, NA has a solid Top 10-15 but after that, there is a big difference to the rest of the players.
Drewbie hasn't shown any improvement from Korea yet. Pokebunny wins small lans but has yet take any decent placings at a major tourny. dde is so good, but n idea why he doesn't do well. Trimaster was a fluke IMO. The only good Terran NA has is Select.
That's not true, we have KawaiiRice who qualified for the champ brackets in 4 MLGs this year and is a mechanical beast, Major who is solid as a player, and QXC who has been in a bit of a slump, but not lets forget his GSTL all kill 4 months ago.
When you measure results on an international stage Select is the only NA (If he even is NA) Terran who has done anything. For that matter, Him and Thorzain are the only two Terrans outside Korea who have done anything. KawaiiRice, Major, QXC, are all good players but havn't done much outside NA.
There are more Euros, who did something. Sjow, Kas, Jinro a while ago, Beasty in the teamleagues, Cloud, Strelok, Tarson, Naama (won last DH, including TOP), Bratok, Demuslim, Happy.
On November 26 2011 04:58 yarkO wrote: Why is it that whenever I go to check the streams and catch some games, there never seem to be any going on? Kind of bizarre to have 3 streams running and no games being broadcast.
They have scheduled breaks to give the casters and players some time to rest and eat, which is something that many players and casters have complained that many tournaments do not often do.
On November 26 2011 04:27 BlackGosu wrote: [quote] ???
thorzain was the best euro at one point
Best foreigner terran still. (If I'm not forgetting someone obvious.)
Kas is up there. Team Empire got some fierce terrans. Other that that? Select. DeMuslim is not.
Why is Demuslim not considered good? Anyways, don't forget about Strelok either. And . . . I think that is it.
Of course he is "good" but I do not reconsider him to be up there with the others. He's top among the NA terrans tho, if it's ok to count him as one of them. Forgot about Strelok. He's pretty solid.
Lol, NA Terrans, I forgot that. Is there any good NA Terran atm? I'm looking at NA GM right now, and there is NoNge, who is most likely some korean smurf. And then NamhciR...Are your serious? NA needs to Terran it up fast and serious :D Terran does seem to be the harder race. The weaker the ladder, the less you see Terrans
Hmm, Drewbie maybe? Or dde? Pokebunny? Trimaster) The list of good NA Terrans seems very short. But this can be also said for Protoss or zerg, NA has a solid Top 10-15 but after that, there is a big difference to the rest of the players.
Drewbie hasn't shown any improvement from Korea yet. Pokebunny wins small lans but has yet take any decent placings at a major tourny. dde is so good, but n idea why he doesn't do well. Trimaster was a fluke IMO. The only good Terran NA has is Select.
Well drewbie did beat stephano in Nasl recently... but I suppose stephano is slumping pretty hard lately.
On November 26 2011 05:02 McFeser wrote: Is Happy any good? I really don't see Sjow besting WhiteRa or ToD, therefore I don't see any terrans advancing from group G.
On November 26 2011 04:52 red4ce wrote:
On November 26 2011 04:50 TheSwamp wrote:
On November 26 2011 04:49 Poopi wrote:
On November 26 2011 04:43 MasterKush wrote:
On November 26 2011 04:41 AxionSteel wrote: What's happening with Strelok, hardly see him in tournaments lately, and no record on the ladder. He was a solid allround terran, not spectacular in any matchup, but no weakness, which basically every single foreign terran has a really weak matchup.
I'd give it to thorzain just, but his play really seems to be slipping. I do wonder if he's actually practicing as much as he was. I'm looking forward to seeing how Kas and Happy play later today, Kas seems in great form lately and i'd love to see him do well at a live event.
I'd love to see Kas actually win a tournament as prestigious as this too. Unfortunately he seems to have "MKP Disease" where he chokes at the quarters/semi's of most competitions.
What? MKP doesn't choke (except maybe in his first final against NesTea)
What about his two finals against MVP?
Losing to a better player =/= choking.
As a side note, MVP has beaten MKP 16 times. MKP has beaten MVP 4 times.
Happy is one of those beastly ladder players who puts in an insane amount of games and usually has a pretty impressive win-ratio, but hasn't converted that into any noteable tournament victories (that I know of).
Yeah my guess is they've met on ladder allot and Happy is a bit predictable and does bad at lans so I assume Ra the favourite. But it is possible for Happy to win.
On November 26 2011 04:34 TheDougler wrote: Wow, HuK and Sheth the only remaining representatives of North America.
Really hope a foriegner wins this... Preferably White-Ra or HuK... We need a North American in the Blizzard cup.
Well that's actually quite good that two NA players advanced considering how few were in the tournament. It's definitely cool to see some NA representation in this mostly european main tournament. And it doesn't hurt that both of those guys are freaking awesome.
Personally I'd want to see Naniwa winning this. That would be so awesome.
As a sidenote, Huk, considering your bad relationship with playing with jetlag, I'd really love to see you start beating the crap out of that shit and arriving at these exotic tournament locations a few days earlier so you could adjust and kick some proper ass in the tournaments like you should.
I think Huk came on monday or tuesday to sweden, so he could adapt to the timezone. Still not really long though.
On November 26 2011 05:02 McFeser wrote: Is Happy any good? I really don't see Sjow besting WhiteRa or ToD, therefore I don't see any terrans advancing from group G.
On November 26 2011 04:52 red4ce wrote:
On November 26 2011 04:50 TheSwamp wrote:
On November 26 2011 04:49 Poopi wrote:
On November 26 2011 04:43 MasterKush wrote:
On November 26 2011 04:41 AxionSteel wrote: What's happening with Strelok, hardly see him in tournaments lately, and no record on the ladder. He was a solid allround terran, not spectacular in any matchup, but no weakness, which basically every single foreign terran has a really weak matchup.
I'd give it to thorzain just, but his play really seems to be slipping. I do wonder if he's actually practicing as much as he was. I'm looking forward to seeing how Kas and Happy play later today, Kas seems in great form lately and i'd love to see him do well at a live event.
I'd love to see Kas actually win a tournament as prestigious as this too. Unfortunately he seems to have "MKP Disease" where he chokes at the quarters/semi's of most competitions.
What? MKP doesn't choke (except maybe in his first final against NesTea)
What about his two finals against MVP?
Losing to a better player =/= choking.
As a side note, MVP has beaten MKP 16 times. MKP has beaten MVP 4 times.
Happy is one of those beastly ladder players who puts in an insane amount of games and usually has a pretty impressive win-ratio, but hasn't converted that into any noteable tournament victories (that I know of).
short obligatory video to make an opinion about happy;) from a match vs darkforce
On November 26 2011 04:20 Packawana wrote: And that's it, all the Koreans into the Ro16.
I'm putting bets right now on DRG or PuMa to take the tourney. HerO less so only because there are a lot of good zergs left over.
Writing off all the known Koreans was an obvious mistake. The known Koreans have been playing very strong and haven't lost any series to non-Koreans.
Stephano, Thorzain, SeleCT, Sen, elfi and Idra are all out despite being thought to be potential winners.
Lol come on, nobody actually thought Thorzain or elfi stood a chance.
???
thorzain was the best euro at one point
Best foreigner terran still. (If I'm not forgetting someone obvious.)
Kas is up there. Team Empire got some fierce terrans. Other that that? Select. DeMuslim is not.
Why is Demuslim not considered good? Anyways, don't forget about Strelok either. And . . . I think that is it.
Of course he is "good" but I do not reconsider him to be up there with the others. He's top among the NA terrans tho, if it's ok to count him as one of them. Forgot about Strelok. He's pretty solid.
Lol, NA Terrans, I forgot that. Is there any good NA Terran atm? I'm looking at NA GM right now, and there is NoNge, who is most likely some korean smurf. And then NamhciR...Are your serious? NA needs to Terran it up fast and serious :D Terran does seem to be the harder race. The weaker the ladder, the less you see Terrans
On November 26 2011 04:58 yarkO wrote: Why is it that whenever I go to check the streams and catch some games, there never seem to be any going on? Kind of bizarre to have 3 streams running and no games being broadcast.
Unlucky or unable to check the schedule. I've watched games all day with a few breaks for lunch and such.
Must just be plain unlucky :D Ah well, I'm sure I will catch one eventually LOL. Just checking at the wrong times ^^
On November 26 2011 05:06 AxionSteel wrote: I feel like Qxc has the potential to do well, as we saw from his stay in Korea. Studies keep derailing him, but of course that's his choice
Isn't he done this semester or the next one? I'd imagine he'll go back to Korea almost immediately after he's done and live in the ex-fou house
On November 26 2011 04:58 yarkO wrote: Why is it that whenever I go to check the streams and catch some games, there never seem to be any going on? Kind of bizarre to have 3 streams running and no games being broadcast.
They have scheduled breaks to give the casters and players some time to rest and eat, which is something that many players and casters have complained that many tournaments do not often do.
Yes it's easy to complain from home when you have all the amenities and time/breaks you could ask for, but god forbid they don't have non-stop 12hour action for you, sigh.
Not everyone has format's like MLG with quad-view nonstop action, don't get too spoiled.
On November 26 2011 05:02 McFeser wrote: Is Happy any good? I really don't see Sjow besting WhiteRa or ToD, therefore I don't see any terrans advancing from group G.
On November 26 2011 04:52 red4ce wrote:
On November 26 2011 04:50 TheSwamp wrote:
On November 26 2011 04:49 Poopi wrote:
On November 26 2011 04:43 MasterKush wrote:
On November 26 2011 04:41 AxionSteel wrote: What's happening with Strelok, hardly see him in tournaments lately, and no record on the ladder. He was a solid allround terran, not spectacular in any matchup, but no weakness, which basically every single foreign terran has a really weak matchup.
I'd give it to thorzain just, but his play really seems to be slipping. I do wonder if he's actually practicing as much as he was. I'm looking forward to seeing how Kas and Happy play later today, Kas seems in great form lately and i'd love to see him do well at a live event.
I'd love to see Kas actually win a tournament as prestigious as this too. Unfortunately he seems to have "MKP Disease" where he chokes at the quarters/semi's of most competitions.
What? MKP doesn't choke (except maybe in his first final against NesTea)
What about his two finals against MVP?
Losing to a better player =/= choking.
As a side note, MVP has beaten MKP 16 times. MKP has beaten MVP 4 times.
Happy is one of those beastly ladder players who puts in an insane amount of games and usually has a pretty impressive win-ratio, but hasn't converted that into any noteable tournament victories (that I know of).
On November 26 2011 04:28 Kevan wrote: [quote] Best foreigner terran still. (If I'm not forgetting someone obvious.)
Kas is up there. Team Empire got some fierce terrans. Other that that? Select. DeMuslim is not.
Why is Demuslim not considered good? Anyways, don't forget about Strelok either. And . . . I think that is it.
Of course he is "good" but I do not reconsider him to be up there with the others. He's top among the NA terrans tho, if it's ok to count him as one of them. Forgot about Strelok. He's pretty solid.
Lol, NA Terrans, I forgot that. Is there any good NA Terran atm? I'm looking at NA GM right now, and there is NoNge, who is most likely some korean smurf. And then NamhciR...Are your serious? NA needs to Terran it up fast and serious :D Terran does seem to be the harder race. The weaker the ladder, the less you see Terrans
Hmm, Drewbie maybe? Or dde? Pokebunny? Trimaster) The list of good NA Terrans seems very short. But this can be also said for Protoss or zerg, NA has a solid Top 10-15 but after that, there is a big difference to the rest of the players.
Drewbie hasn't shown any improvement from Korea yet. Pokebunny wins small lans but has yet take any decent placings at a major tourny. dde is so good, but n idea why he doesn't do well. Trimaster was a fluke IMO. The only good Terran NA has is Select.
Well drewbie did beat stephano in Nasl recently... but I suppose stephano is slumping pretty hard lately.
Nah, Stephano is ok. He won 10K two weeks ago.
More like 5 days, but you're right.
Oh. I'm severely lost in the days. I guest that it wasn't as recently as that and just went for the weekend before. xD
On November 26 2011 05:02 McFeser wrote: Is Happy any good? I really don't see Sjow besting WhiteRa or ToD, therefore I don't see any terrans advancing from group G.
On November 26 2011 04:52 red4ce wrote:
On November 26 2011 04:50 TheSwamp wrote:
On November 26 2011 04:49 Poopi wrote:
On November 26 2011 04:43 MasterKush wrote:
On November 26 2011 04:41 AxionSteel wrote: What's happening with Strelok, hardly see him in tournaments lately, and no record on the ladder. He was a solid allround terran, not spectacular in any matchup, but no weakness, which basically every single foreign terran has a really weak matchup.
I'd give it to thorzain just, but his play really seems to be slipping. I do wonder if he's actually practicing as much as he was. I'm looking forward to seeing how Kas and Happy play later today, Kas seems in great form lately and i'd love to see him do well at a live event.
I'd love to see Kas actually win a tournament as prestigious as this too. Unfortunately he seems to have "MKP Disease" where he chokes at the quarters/semi's of most competitions.
What? MKP doesn't choke (except maybe in his first final against NesTea)
What about his two finals against MVP?
Losing to a better player =/= choking.
As a side note, MVP has beaten MKP 16 times. MKP has beaten MVP 4 times.
Happy is one of those beastly ladder players who puts in an insane amount of games and usually has a pretty impressive win-ratio, but hasn't converted that into any noteable tournament victories (that I know of).
On November 26 2011 05:06 AxionSteel wrote: I feel like Qxc has the potential to do well, as we saw from his stay in Korea. Studies keep derailing him, but of course that's his choice
Isn't he done this semester or the next one? I'd imagine he'll go back to Korea almost immediately after he's done and live in the ex-fou house
I'm not sure, but I hope so!!
Still get nerd chills when watching that Happy clip, so beautiful.
EPT
