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Please stop the tournament comparison discussion. Especially regarding players their runs (Stephano seems to be the current topic). Stay on topic and stick to the games. Consequences will be met out to further derailment.
In addition leave the usual out of this topic:
-Balance complaints
-Map complaints
-Stream complaints
-Caster/player bashing
-Off topic discussions
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Why is it that whenever I go to check the streams and catch some games, there never seem to be any going on? Kind of bizarre to have 3 streams running and no games being broadcast.
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On November 26 2011 04:52 TheSwamp wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2011 04:50 Xoronius wrote:On November 26 2011 04:41 ZenithM wrote:On November 26 2011 04:37 AlternativeEgo wrote:On November 26 2011 04:32 McFeser wrote:On November 26 2011 04:30 AlternativeEgo wrote:On November 26 2011 04:28 Kevan wrote:On November 26 2011 04:27 BlackGosu wrote:On November 26 2011 04:26 Flonomenalz wrote:On November 26 2011 04:23 Zzoram wrote:
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Writing off all the known Koreans was an obvious mistake. The known Koreans have been playing very strong and haven't lost any series to non-Koreans.
Stephano, Thorzain, SeleCT, Sen, elfi and Idra are all out despite being thought to be potential winners. Lol come on, nobody actually thought Thorzain or elfi stood a chance. ??? thorzain was the best euro at one point Best foreigner terran still. (If I'm not forgetting someone obvious.) Kas is up there. Team Empire got some fierce terrans. Other that that? Select. DeMuslim is not. Why is Demuslim not considered good? Anyways, don't forget about Strelok either. And . . . I think that is it. Of course he is "good" but I do not reconsider him to be up there with the others. He's top among the NA terrans tho, if it's ok to count him as one of them. Forgot about Strelok. He's pretty solid.  Lol, NA Terrans, I forgot that. Is there any good NA Terran atm? I'm looking at NA GM right now, and there is NoNge, who is most likely some korean smurf. And then NamhciR...Are your serious? NA needs to Terran it up fast and serious :D Terran does seem to be the harder race. The weaker the ladder, the less you see Terrans  Hmm, Drewbie maybe? Or dde? Pokebunny? Trimaster) The list of good NA Terrans seems very short. But this can be also said for Protoss or zerg, NA has a solid Top 10-15 but after that, there is a big difference to the rest of the players. Drewbie hasn't shown any improvement from Korea yet. Pokebunny wins small lans but has yet take any decent placings at a major tourny. dde is so good, but n idea why he doesn't do well. Trimaster was a fluke IMO. The only good Terran NA has is Select.
You´re probably right, but I wonder, why this is the case. I mean, in the european weeklys you see new terran hopes almost every month and NA is kinda struggleing. After Idra, HuK, SeleCT, Sheth and TT1 (and recently maybe Gatored) there is not much. Btw. QXC is also not bad, if he has good form.
Edit: As someone said, kawairaice is also there.
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On November 26 2011 04:57 ellirc wrote:
Would restreaming audio only be breaking any rules? :/ There are always people complaining about not having bandwidth and so on so I set up a restream with just results on screen and then audio from the DH stream. Is that okay?
Against TOS.
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On November 26 2011 04:34 TheDougler wrote:
Wow, HuK and Sheth the only remaining representatives of North America.
Really hope a foriegner wins this... Preferably White-Ra or HuK... We need a North American in the Blizzard cup.
Well that's actually quite good that two NA players advanced considering how few were in the tournament. It's definitely cool to see some NA representation in this mostly european main tournament. And it doesn't hurt that both of those guys are freaking awesome.
Personally I'd want to see Naniwa winning this. That would be so awesome.
As a sidenote, Huk, considering your bad relationship with playing with jetlag, I'd really love to see you start beating the crap out of that shit and arriving at these exotic tournament locations a few days earlier so you could adjust and kick some proper ass in the tournaments like you should.
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On November 26 2011 04:58 ODieN wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2011 04:57 ellirc wrote:
Would restreaming audio only be breaking any rules? :/ There are always people complaining about not having bandwidth and so on so I set up a restream with just results on screen and then audio from the DH stream. Is that okay? Against TOS.
Do you know exactly what line that is on?
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On November 26 2011 04:58 Qaatar wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2011 04:56 AxionSteel wrote:On November 26 2011 04:50 Poopi wrote:On November 26 2011 04:50 TheSwamp wrote:On November 26 2011 04:49 Poopi wrote:On November 26 2011 04:43 MasterKush wrote:On November 26 2011 04:41 AxionSteel wrote:
What's happening with Strelok, hardly see him in tournaments lately, and no record on the ladder. He was a solid allround terran, not spectacular in any matchup, but no weakness, which basically every single foreign terran has a really weak matchup.
I'd give it to thorzain just, but his play really seems to be slipping. I do wonder if he's actually practicing as much as he was. I'm looking forward to seeing how Kas and Happy play later today, Kas seems in great form lately and i'd love to see him do well at a live event.
I'd love to see Kas actually win a tournament as prestigious as this too. Unfortunately he seems to have "MKP Disease" where he chokes at the quarters/semi's of most competitions. What? MKP doesn't choke (except maybe in his first final against NesTea) What about his two finals against MVP? He didn't choke, at least not in the second one since Mvp was just better. The first one I saw the games but can't remember them lol, Mvp was too good back then too Dude the second one was actually nailbightingly close in comparison to the first one, that was the biggest roflstomp ever lol. I can vaguely remember MKP trying those basetrade antics that he used on NaDa but Mvp was having none of that MVP stomped him in the first two games, then in the third, MVP tried some 3 base Battlecruiser switch that just couldn't be supported by his economy, and MKP came back with a huge tank push. 4th game, MKP cheesed him out on Crossfire. Last two were dominations again. It really wasn't that close, although it was a good series.
Yeah I know it wasn't close, just in comparison to the incredibly lopsided first series is what I was getting at. It was a decent series, a couple of GG's in there.
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On November 26 2011 04:57 InvalidID wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2011 04:52 TheSwamp wrote:On November 26 2011 04:50 Xoronius wrote:On November 26 2011 04:41 ZenithM wrote:On November 26 2011 04:37 AlternativeEgo wrote:On November 26 2011 04:32 McFeser wrote:On November 26 2011 04:30 AlternativeEgo wrote:On November 26 2011 04:28 Kevan wrote:On November 26 2011 04:27 BlackGosu wrote:On November 26 2011 04:26 Flonomenalz wrote:
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Lol come on, nobody actually thought Thorzain or elfi stood a chance.
??? thorzain was the best euro at one point Best foreigner terran still. (If I'm not forgetting someone obvious.) Kas is up there. Team Empire got some fierce terrans. Other that that? Select. DeMuslim is not. Why is Demuslim not considered good? Anyways, don't forget about Strelok either. And . . . I think that is it. Of course he is "good" but I do not reconsider him to be up there with the others. He's top among the NA terrans tho, if it's ok to count him as one of them. Forgot about Strelok. He's pretty solid. Lol, NA Terrans, I forgot that. Is there any good NA Terran atm? I'm looking at NA GM right now, and there is NoNge, who is most likely some korean smurf. And then NamhciR...Are your serious? NA needs to Terran it up fast and serious :D Terran does seem to be the harder race. The weaker the ladder, the less you see Terrans Hmm, Drewbie maybe? Or dde? Pokebunny? Trimaster) The list of good NA Terrans seems very short. But this can be also said for Protoss or zerg, NA has a solid Top 10-15 but after that, there is a big difference to the rest of the players. Drewbie hasn't shown any improvement from Korea yet. Pokebunny wins small lans but has yet take any decent placings at a major tourny. dde is so good, but n idea why he doesn't do well. Trimaster was a fluke IMO. The only good Terran NA has is Select. That's not true, we have KawaiiRice who qualified for the champ brackets in 4 MLGs this year and is a mechanical beast, Major who is solid as a player, and QXC who has been in a bit of a slump, but not lets forget his GSTL all kill 4 months ago.
When you measure results on an international stage Select is the only NA (If he even is NA) Terran who has done anything. For that matter, Him and Thorzain are the only two Terrans outside Korea who have done anything. KawaiiRice, Major, QXC, are all good players but havn't done much outside NA.
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On November 26 2011 04:58 yarkO wrote:
Why is it that whenever I go to check the streams and catch some games, there never seem to be any going on? Kind of bizarre to have 3 streams running and no games being broadcast.
They've all 3 been casting since 10 AM, they have to eat at some point.
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On November 26 2011 04:58 yarkO wrote:
Why is it that whenever I go to check the streams and catch some games, there never seem to be any going on? Kind of bizarre to have 3 streams running and no games being broadcast.
They are on their pre-scheduled "dinner break" as far as I know. They get 1hour ish~ to get eat some food and rest.
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Necrhio is....absolutely amazing. Whoever denies that is a scrub fo' life
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On November 26 2011 04:53 Lavi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2011 04:52 TheSwamp wrote:On November 26 2011 04:50 Xoronius wrote:On November 26 2011 04:41 ZenithM wrote:On November 26 2011 04:37 AlternativeEgo wrote:On November 26 2011 04:32 McFeser wrote:On November 26 2011 04:30 AlternativeEgo wrote:On November 26 2011 04:28 Kevan wrote:On November 26 2011 04:27 BlackGosu wrote:On November 26 2011 04:26 Flonomenalz wrote:
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Lol come on, nobody actually thought Thorzain or elfi stood a chance.
??? thorzain was the best euro at one point Best foreigner terran still. (If I'm not forgetting someone obvious.) Kas is up there. Team Empire got some fierce terrans. Other that that? Select. DeMuslim is not. Why is Demuslim not considered good? Anyways, don't forget about Strelok either. And . . . I think that is it. Of course he is "good" but I do not reconsider him to be up there with the others. He's top among the NA terrans tho, if it's ok to count him as one of them. Forgot about Strelok. He's pretty solid. Lol, NA Terrans, I forgot that. Is there any good NA Terran atm? I'm looking at NA GM right now, and there is NoNge, who is most likely some korean smurf. And then NamhciR...Are your serious? NA needs to Terran it up fast and serious :D Terran does seem to be the harder race. The weaker the ladder, the less you see Terrans Hmm, Drewbie maybe? Or dde? Pokebunny? Trimaster) The list of good NA Terrans seems very short. But this can be also said for Protoss or zerg, NA has a solid Top 10-15 but after that, there is a big difference to the rest of the players. Drewbie hasn't shown any improvement from Korea yet. Pokebunny wins small lans but has yet take any decent placings at a major tourny. dde is so good, but n idea why he doesn't do well. Trimaster was a fluke IMO. The only good Terran NA has is Select. Well drewbie did beat stephano in Nasl recently... but I suppose stephano is slumping pretty hard lately.
Nah, Stephano is ok. He won 10K two weeks ago.
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Is Happy any good? I really don't see Sjow besting WhiteRa or ToD, therefore I don't see any terrans advancing from group G.
On November 26 2011 04:52 red4ce wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2011 04:50 TheSwamp wrote:On November 26 2011 04:49 Poopi wrote:On November 26 2011 04:43 MasterKush wrote:On November 26 2011 04:41 AxionSteel wrote:
What's happening with Strelok, hardly see him in tournaments lately, and no record on the ladder. He was a solid allround terran, not spectacular in any matchup, but no weakness, which basically every single foreign terran has a really weak matchup.
I'd give it to thorzain just, but his play really seems to be slipping. I do wonder if he's actually practicing as much as he was. I'm looking forward to seeing how Kas and Happy play later today, Kas seems in great form lately and i'd love to see him do well at a live event.
I'd love to see Kas actually win a tournament as prestigious as this too. Unfortunately he seems to have "MKP Disease" where he chokes at the quarters/semi's of most competitions. What? MKP doesn't choke (except maybe in his first final against NesTea) What about his two finals against MVP? Losing to a better player =/= choking.
As a side note, MVP has beaten MKP 16 times. MKP has beaten MVP 4 times.
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On November 26 2011 04:58 yarkO wrote:
Why is it that whenever I go to check the streams and catch some games, there never seem to be any going on? Kind of bizarre to have 3 streams running and no games being broadcast.
Unlucky or unable to check the schedule. I've watched games all day with a few breaks for lunch and such.
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Lol, I am loving this music playing on the 2nd Dreamhack stream. They should make an internet radio station.
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On November 26 2011 04:59 Kilby wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2011 04:34 TheDougler wrote:
Wow, HuK and Sheth the only remaining representatives of North America.
Really hope a foriegner wins this... Preferably White-Ra or HuK... We need a North American in the Blizzard cup. Well that's actually quite good that two NA players advanced considering how few were in the tournament. It's definitely cool to see some NA representation in this mostly european main tournament. And it doesn't hurt that both of those guys are freaking awesome. Personally I'd want to see Naniwa winning this. That would be so awesome. As a sidenote, Huk, considering your bad relationship with playing with jetlag, I'd really love to see you start beating the crap out of that shit and arriving at these exotic tournament locations a few days earlier so you could adjust and kick some proper ass in the tournaments like you should.
The problem is that his travel schedule is so absurd he cant. He is literally in a different country just about every week. On the 15th he had Code S in Korea, on the 18th-20st he had MLG in the USA, and on the 24th he has this Dreamhack, then he has the NASL finals next week.
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On November 26 2011 04:41 ZenithM wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2011 04:37 AlternativeEgo wrote:On November 26 2011 04:32 McFeser wrote:On November 26 2011 04:30 AlternativeEgo wrote:On November 26 2011 04:28 Kevan wrote:On November 26 2011 04:27 BlackGosu wrote:On November 26 2011 04:26 Flonomenalz wrote:On November 26 2011 04:23 Zzoram wrote:On November 26 2011 04:20 Packawana wrote:
And that's it, all the Koreans into the Ro16.
I'm putting bets right now on DRG or PuMa to take the tourney. HerO less so only because there are a lot of good zergs left over. Writing off all the known Koreans was an obvious mistake. The known Koreans have been playing very strong and haven't lost any series to non-Koreans. Stephano, Thorzain, SeleCT, Sen, elfi and Idra are all out despite being thought to be potential winners. Lol come on, nobody actually thought Thorzain or elfi stood a chance. ??? thorzain was the best euro at one point Best foreigner terran still. (If I'm not forgetting someone obvious.) Kas is up there. Team Empire got some fierce terrans. Other that that? Select. DeMuslim is not. Why is Demuslim not considered good? Anyways, don't forget about Strelok either. And . . . I think that is it. Of course he is "good" but I do not reconsider him to be up there with the others. He's top among the NA terrans tho, if it's ok to count him as one of them. Forgot about Strelok. He's pretty solid. Lol, NA Terrans, I forgot that. Is there any good NA Terran atm? I'm looking at NA GM right now, and there is NoNge, who is most likely some korean smurf. And then NamhciR...Are your serious? NA needs to Terran it up fast and serious :D Terran does seem to be the harder race. The weaker the ladder, the less you see Terrans
NoNge is sixjaxMajor
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On November 26 2011 05:02 McFeser wrote:Is Happy any good? I really don't see Sjow besting WhiteRa or ToD, therefore I don't see any terrans advancing from group G. Show nested quote +On November 26 2011 04:52 red4ce wrote:On November 26 2011 04:50 TheSwamp wrote:On November 26 2011 04:49 Poopi wrote:On November 26 2011 04:43 MasterKush wrote:On November 26 2011 04:41 AxionSteel wrote:
What's happening with Strelok, hardly see him in tournaments lately, and no record on the ladder. He was a solid allround terran, not spectacular in any matchup, but no weakness, which basically every single foreign terran has a really weak matchup.
I'd give it to thorzain just, but his play really seems to be slipping. I do wonder if he's actually practicing as much as he was. I'm looking forward to seeing how Kas and Happy play later today, Kas seems in great form lately and i'd love to see him do well at a live event.
I'd love to see Kas actually win a tournament as prestigious as this too. Unfortunately he seems to have "MKP Disease" where he chokes at the quarters/semi's of most competitions. What? MKP doesn't choke (except maybe in his first final against NesTea) What about his two finals against MVP? Losing to a better player =/= choking. As a side note, MVP has beaten MKP 16 times. MKP has beaten MVP 4 times.
Happy is one of those beastly ladder players who puts in an insane amount of games and usually has a pretty impressive win-ratio, but hasn't converted that into any noteable tournament victories (that I know of).
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I consider select all NA... from my understanding he learned the game entire in NA and was still owning... him practicing in korea is no different then say naniwa.
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On November 26 2011 05:01 MasterKush wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2011 04:58 yarkO wrote:
Why is it that whenever I go to check the streams and catch some games, there never seem to be any going on? Kind of bizarre to have 3 streams running and no games being broadcast. They are on their pre-scheduled "dinner break" as far as I know. They get 1hour ish~ to get eat some food and rest.
FOOD AND REST!!!????!!!!
What treachery is this?!
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