Please stop the tournament comparison discussion. Especially regarding players their runs (Stephano seems to be the current topic). Stay on topic and stick to the games. Consequences will be met out to further derailment.
On November 26 2011 04:34 TheDougler wrote: Wow, HuK and Sheth the only remaining representatives of North America.
Really hope a foriegner wins this... Preferably White-Ra or HuK... We need a North American in the Blizzard cup.
Well that's actually quite good that two NA players advanced considering how few were in the tournament. It's definitely cool to see some NA representation in this mostly european main tournament. And it doesn't hurt that both of those guys are freaking awesome.
Personally I'd want to see Naniwa winning this. That would be so awesome.
As a sidenote, Huk, considering your bad relationship with playing with jetlag, I'd really love to see you start beating the crap out of that shit and arriving at these exotic tournament locations a few days earlier so you could adjust and kick some proper ass in the tournaments like you should.
I think Huk came on monday or tuesday to sweden, so he could adapt to the timezone. Still not really long though.
Maybe it's just me, but I found that 2-3 days after traveling is the worst jet lag. I'm closer to adapting to the time but haven't had the time to catch up on sleep.
Writing off all the known Koreans was an obvious mistake. The known Koreans have been playing very strong and haven't lost any series to non-Koreans.
Stephano, Thorzain, SeleCT, Sen, elfi and Idra are all out despite being thought to be potential winners.
Lol come on, nobody actually thought Thorzain or elfi stood a chance.
???
thorzain was the best euro at one point
Best foreigner terran still. (If I'm not forgetting someone obvious.)
Kas is up there. Team Empire got some fierce terrans. Other that that? Select. DeMuslim is not.
Why is Demuslim not considered good? Anyways, don't forget about Strelok either. And . . . I think that is it.
Of course he is "good" but I do not reconsider him to be up there with the others. He's top among the NA terrans tho, if it's ok to count him as one of them. Forgot about Strelok. He's pretty solid.
Lol, NA Terrans, I forgot that. Is there any good NA Terran atm? I'm looking at NA GM right now, and there is NoNge, who is most likely some korean smurf. And then NamhciR...Are your serious? NA needs to Terran it up fast and serious :D Terran does seem to be the harder race. The weaker the ladder, the less you see Terrans
On November 26 2011 04:34 TheDougler wrote: Wow, HuK and Sheth the only remaining representatives of North America.
Really hope a foriegner wins this... Preferably White-Ra or HuK... We need a North American in the Blizzard cup.
Well that's actually quite good that two NA players advanced considering how few were in the tournament. It's definitely cool to see some NA representation in this mostly european main tournament. And it doesn't hurt that both of those guys are freaking awesome.
Personally I'd want to see Naniwa winning this. That would be so awesome.
As a sidenote, Huk, considering your bad relationship with playing with jetlag, I'd really love to see you start beating the crap out of that shit and arriving at these exotic tournament locations a few days earlier so you could adjust and kick some proper ass in the tournaments like you should.
The problem is that his travel schedule is so absurd he cant. He is literally in a different country just about every week. On the 15th he had Code S in Korea, on the 18th-20st he had MLG in the USA, and on the 24th he has this Dreamhack, then he has the NASL finals next week.
Oh man that sounds excruciating. At worst that will result in a situation where Huk is in a lot of tournaments but he can never show his best in any of them. I hope that's not the case.
On November 26 2011 04:58 yarkO wrote: Why is it that whenever I go to check the streams and catch some games, there never seem to be any going on? Kind of bizarre to have 3 streams running and no games being broadcast.
They have scheduled breaks to give the casters and players some time to rest and eat, which is something that many players and casters have complained that many tournaments do not often do.
Yes it's easy to complain from home when you have all the amenities and time/breaks you could ask for, but god forbid they don't have non-stop 12hour action for you, sigh.
Not everyone has format's like MLG with quad-view nonstop action, don't get too spoiled.
Well staggering the casters breaks wouldn't be that hard to execute.
On November 26 2011 04:58 yarkO wrote: Why is it that whenever I go to check the streams and catch some games, there never seem to be any going on? Kind of bizarre to have 3 streams running and no games being broadcast.
They have scheduled breaks to give the casters and players some time to rest and eat, which is something that many players and casters have complained that many tournaments do not often do.
Yes it's easy to complain from home when you have all the amenities and time/breaks you could ask for, but god forbid they don't have non-stop 12hour action for you, sigh.
Not everyone has format's like MLG with quad-view nonstop action, don't get too spoiled.
Jetlag aside, Dreamhack is very easy on the players. For the last two days, they basically had to play 3 Bo3s each day - for a maximum of nine games. That's not very taxing.
It is, however, very hard on the casters. They have to cast 12-14 hours each day.
On November 26 2011 04:58 yarkO wrote: Why is it that whenever I go to check the streams and catch some games, there never seem to be any going on? Kind of bizarre to have 3 streams running and no games being broadcast.
They have scheduled breaks to give the casters and players some time to rest and eat, which is something that many players and casters have complained that many tournaments do not often do.
Yes it's easy to complain from home when you have all the amenities and time/breaks you could ask for, but god forbid they don't have non-stop 12hour action for you, sigh.
Not everyone has format's like MLG with quad-view nonstop action, don't get too spoiled.
He's more commenting on why does everyone have to have a break all at the same time... but whatever...
On November 26 2011 04:27 BlackGosu wrote: [quote] ???
thorzain was the best euro at one point
Best foreigner terran still. (If I'm not forgetting someone obvious.)
Kas is up there. Team Empire got some fierce terrans. Other that that? Select. DeMuslim is not.
Why is Demuslim not considered good? Anyways, don't forget about Strelok either. And . . . I think that is it.
Of course he is "good" but I do not reconsider him to be up there with the others. He's top among the NA terrans tho, if it's ok to count him as one of them. Forgot about Strelok. He's pretty solid.
Lol, NA Terrans, I forgot that. Is there any good NA Terran atm? I'm looking at NA GM right now, and there is NoNge, who is most likely some korean smurf. And then NamhciR...Are your serious? NA needs to Terran it up fast and serious :D Terran does seem to be the harder race. The weaker the ladder, the less you see Terrans
Hmm, Drewbie maybe? Or dde? Pokebunny? Trimaster) The list of good NA Terrans seems very short. But this can be also said for Protoss or zerg, NA has a solid Top 10-15 but after that, there is a big difference to the rest of the players.
Drewbie hasn't shown any improvement from Korea yet. Pokebunny wins small lans but has yet take any decent placings at a major tourny. dde is so good, but n idea why he doesn't do well. Trimaster was a fluke IMO. The only good Terran NA has is Select.
Well drewbie did beat stephano in Nasl recently... but I suppose stephano is slumping pretty hard lately.
Nah, Stephano is ok. He won 10K two weeks ago.
Even as a raving Stephano fanboi I have to admit Stephano hasn't looked good the past 2-3 weeks. Even though he won IPL 4 UK Qualifier, he only very very nearly won in every series except the one against SaSe. I don't know about slumping hard, but his play has declined for sure. I have no doubt he will be back to amaze us all though, kid has talent.
On November 26 2011 05:02 McFeser wrote: Is Happy any good? I really don't see Sjow besting WhiteRa or ToD, therefore I don't see any terrans advancing from group G.
On November 26 2011 04:52 red4ce wrote:
On November 26 2011 04:50 TheSwamp wrote:
On November 26 2011 04:49 Poopi wrote:
On November 26 2011 04:43 MasterKush wrote:
On November 26 2011 04:41 AxionSteel wrote: What's happening with Strelok, hardly see him in tournaments lately, and no record on the ladder. He was a solid allround terran, not spectacular in any matchup, but no weakness, which basically every single foreign terran has a really weak matchup.
I'd give it to thorzain just, but his play really seems to be slipping. I do wonder if he's actually practicing as much as he was. I'm looking forward to seeing how Kas and Happy play later today, Kas seems in great form lately and i'd love to see him do well at a live event.
I'd love to see Kas actually win a tournament as prestigious as this too. Unfortunately he seems to have "MKP Disease" where he chokes at the quarters/semi's of most competitions.
What? MKP doesn't choke (except maybe in his first final against NesTea)
What about his two finals against MVP?
Losing to a better player =/= choking.
As a side note, MVP has beaten MKP 16 times. MKP has beaten MVP 4 times.
Happy is one of those beastly ladder players who puts in an insane amount of games and usually has a pretty impressive win-ratio, but hasn't converted that into any noteable tournament victories (that I know of).
short obligatory video to make an opinion about happy;) from a match vs darkforce
He has a really gimmicky playstyle tho and he seems to do it every single game. His micro is good but he has to work on the other parts of his game.
That marine micro video is pretty overrated. He is not maximasing dps of the marines and therefore, he manages to lose to an army to ling bling muta off creep when he has a supply lead. Watch MKP or MVP and you will see how to beat banelings with marines. You only split the marines a fraction of a second before the banes hit. This way, the mutas and lings don't eat your marines when they are doing nothing but moving.
On November 26 2011 04:58 yarkO wrote: Why is it that whenever I go to check the streams and catch some games, there never seem to be any going on? Kind of bizarre to have 3 streams running and no games being broadcast.
They have scheduled breaks to give the casters and players some time to rest and eat, which is something that many players and casters have complained that many tournaments do not often do.
Yes it's easy to complain from home when you have all the amenities and time/breaks you could ask for, but god forbid they don't have non-stop 12hour action for you, sigh.
Not everyone has format's like MLG with quad-view nonstop action, don't get too spoiled.
Jetlag aside, Dreamhack is very easy on the players. For the last two days, they basically had to play 3 Bo3s each day - for a maximum of nine games and a minimum of six. That's not very taxing.
It is, however, very hard on the casters. They have to cast 12-14 hours each day.
The amount of streamed games with quality casters is simply amazing, credit to Dreamhack for that. Poor casters though.
Btw does anyone know if there is going to be another Homestory Cup after this Dreamhack? The last one was after the previous DH and that was one of the best tournaments ever.
On November 26 2011 05:02 McFeser wrote: Is Happy any good? I really don't see Sjow besting WhiteRa or ToD, therefore I don't see any terrans advancing from group G.
On November 26 2011 04:52 red4ce wrote:
On November 26 2011 04:50 TheSwamp wrote:
On November 26 2011 04:49 Poopi wrote:
On November 26 2011 04:43 MasterKush wrote:
On November 26 2011 04:41 AxionSteel wrote: What's happening with Strelok, hardly see him in tournaments lately, and no record on the ladder. He was a solid allround terran, not spectacular in any matchup, but no weakness, which basically every single foreign terran has a really weak matchup.
I'd give it to thorzain just, but his play really seems to be slipping. I do wonder if he's actually practicing as much as he was. I'm looking forward to seeing how Kas and Happy play later today, Kas seems in great form lately and i'd love to see him do well at a live event.
I'd love to see Kas actually win a tournament as prestigious as this too. Unfortunately he seems to have "MKP Disease" where he chokes at the quarters/semi's of most competitions.
What? MKP doesn't choke (except maybe in his first final against NesTea)
What about his two finals against MVP?
Losing to a better player =/= choking.
As a side note, MVP has beaten MKP 16 times. MKP has beaten MVP 4 times.
Happy is one of those beastly ladder players who puts in an insane amount of games and usually has a pretty impressive win-ratio, but hasn't converted that into any noteable tournament victories (that I know of).
short obligatory video to make an opinion about happy;) from a match vs darkforce
He has a really gimmicky playstyle tho and he seems to do it every single game. His micro is good but he has to work on the other parts of his game.
That marine micro video is pretty overrated. He is not maximasing dps of the marines and therefore, he manages to lose to an army to ling bling muta off creep when he has a supply lead. Watch MKP or MVP and you will see how to beat banelings with marines. You only split the marines a fraction of a second before the banes hit. This way, the mutas and lings don't eat your marines when they are doing nothing but moving.
This. When engaging a ling bling muta army, it's best to have a nice concave with small groups of marines to dps a lot, then you target fire as best as you can until some blings are near your marines and then you start splitting.
EPT
At worst that will result in a situation where Huk is in a lot of tournaments but he can never show his best in any of them. I hope that's not the case.
