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blooblooblahblah
Australia4163 Posts
On November 19 2011 15:30 DoomsVille wrote: I think he was referring to his PvZ. His PvT seems godlike. His PvT is good, but not godlike. He's got really smart builds but his army control and mechanics are still lacking. He's definitely one of those players tht can cause upsets tho, but his PvP is very average (even i've beaten him PvP...altho he's like a million times better than me) | ||
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DoomsVille
Canada4885 Posts
On November 19 2011 15:33 Lunares wrote: Idra wouldn't have MVP (at least according to liquipedia). http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2011_MLG_Pro_Circuit/Providence According to that Idra's bracket gets the winner of Open Bracket 1 (most likely Leenock). Naniwa would get the winner of Open bracket 3 (most likely MVP). That would set up an interesting rematch after Naniwa beat MVP earlier. Ofc Boxer/Select/SLush are no pushovers especially if MVP gets tired. No. OWB #1 means the highest seed from the 4 open bracket winners. That is how they have always done MLG. I am 100% sure of this. | ||
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McFeser
United States2458 Posts
On November 19 2011 15:24 Zzoram wrote: "outplaying" is a pretty bad term. The player who played better wins, that's why they win. If you make fewer minor mistakes but make a fatal mistake, you played worse, not better. Nestea won, there is no doubt about that. But the second game was a comeback victory for Nestea when Idra overengaged (He had a 20-30 supply lead and threw it away). The third game IdrA got off some really good baneling hits and the final push by NTea was his only hope. | ||
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poorcloud
Singapore2748 Posts
On November 19 2011 15:33 Yang Wenli wrote: I could see that happening, Leenock did lose to Inca at one point. But leenock then beat huk twice and has now beaten Oz. I think leenock's zvp has improved way beyond to when he lost to Inca lol. | ||
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Jehct
New Zealand9115 Posts
On November 19 2011 15:33 tuho12345 wrote: Some ppl don't realize that Protoss can't take 3 bases at 8 mins mark or mass expanding. Their definition of all-in is just totally different I guess. ... the Shakuras game wasn't an all-in? It was mass phoenix into warp prism gateway all-in on 2base lol. And the Dual Sight game was a blink stalker all-in that he transitioned out of eventually (DRG kinda threw that game away IMO) - if you watch newer PvZ's you can see what a toss who wants a macro game can do (not that it always works). I don't remember the Shattered game at all but wasn't that the map he lost anyway? | ||
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LighT.
Canada4501 Posts
Bracket 1 Winner: Leenock: 79% Gatored: 19% State: 1% HeavOnEarth 1% Bracket 2: Nestea: 95% Machine: 4% Spanishwa: 0.8% TLO: 0.2% Bracket 3: MVP: 58% sC:21% LosirA: 21% Shew: 0% Bracket 4: HerO: 35% KeeN: 35% Sheth: 25% MajOr: 5% | ||
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Lunares
United States909 Posts
On November 19 2011 15:35 DoomsVille wrote: No. OWB #1 means the highest seed from the 4 open bracket winners. That is how they have always done MLG. I am 100% sure of this. Ah. If that's the case I'm sure Idra is pulling hard for Sheth to win as he has a higher seed than MVP. | ||
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DoomsVille
Canada4885 Posts
On November 19 2011 15:35 McFeser wrote: Nestea won, there is no doubt about that. But the second game was a comeback victory for Nestea when Idra overengaged (He had a 20-30 supply lead and threw it away). The third game IdrA got off some really good baneling hits and the final push by NTea was his only hope. You guys are arguing semantics. Basically you're just trying to define "outplay" and then disagreeing. It's the most pointless discussion ever  .We all agree, IdrA got ahead in both games with some good multitasking/decision making. He lost because NesTea's decision making was better. | ||
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TT1
Canada10090 Posts
On November 19 2011 15:36 poorcloud wrote: But leenock then beat huk twice and has now beaten Oz. I think leenock's zvp has improved way beyond to when he lost to Inca lol. just because he loss 1 match that doesnt mean his zvp is bad rofl, u need to base a players skill off of HUNDREDS of matchs.. not just 1 series | ||
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DoomsVille
Canada4885 Posts
On November 19 2011 15:37 LighT. wrote: Predictions Bracket 1 Winner: Leenock: 79% Gatored: 19% State: 1% HeavOnEarth 1% Bracket 2: Nestea: 95% Machine: 4% Spanishwa: 0.8% TLO: 0.2% Bracket 3: MVP: 58% sC:21% LosirA: 21% Shew: 0% Bracket 4: HerO: 35% KeeN: 35% Sheth: 25% MajOr: 5% Shit I didn't even see Keen. If I knew he was in there I wouldn't have predicted HerO. I love Keen and he will beat Hero. I agree with most of your %s except LosirA's is way too high. Even if he beats sC... he has almost 0% chance against MVP. | ||
CosmicSpiral
United States15275 Posts
On November 19 2011 15:31 redFF wrote: I don't think machine's mechanics are anywhere near as good as nestea's. Machine's macro has always been top-tier. His micro was okay, but his decision-making and strategies ranged from okay to disastrous. At the bottom of his slump he would always out-macro his opponents and then lose his entire army in bone-headed engagements, or utterly collapse to early pressure. | ||
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Yaki
France4234 Posts
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TT1
Canada10090 Posts
On November 19 2011 15:37 LighT. wrote: Predictions Bracket 1 Winner: Leenock: 79% Gatored: 19% State: 1% HeavOnEarth 1% Bracket 2: Nestea: 95% Machine: 4% Spanishwa: 0.8% TLO: 0.2% Bracket 3: MVP: 58% sC:21% LosirA: 21% Shew: 0% Bracket 4: HerO: 35% KeeN: 35% Sheth: 25% MajOr: 5% bracket 4 hero 35% keen 30% major 17.5 sheth 17.5 | ||
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ssg
United States1779 Posts
Bracket 1 State>Heavonearth Gatored>Leenock Gatored>State Bracket 2 NesTea>Machine TLO>Spanishiwa NesTea>TLO Bracket 3 MVP>Shew Losira>sC MVP>Losira Bracket 4 Keen>Hero Major>Sheth Keen>Major | ||
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pdd
Australia9933 Posts
On November 19 2011 15:39 TT1 wrote: just because he loses 1 match that doesnt mean his zvp is bad rofl, u need to base a players skill off of HUNDREDS of matchs.. not just 1 series He lost countless of ZvPs prior to that Inca loss, including one to Bo5 series to Tassadar. He's also got a less than 50% win rate in the matchup. | ||
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ChriS-X
Malaysia1374 Posts
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LighT.
Canada4501 Posts
![[image loading]](http://tcpm.mrlazyinc.com/files/images/games/memes/gsl_mvp_keen_celebrate_2.gif) On November 19 2011 15:39 DoomsVille wrote: Shit I didn't even see Keen. If I knew he was in there I wouldn't have predicted HerO. I love Keen and he will beat Hero. I agree with most of your %s except LosirA's is way too high. Even if he beats sC... he has almost 0% chance against MVP. User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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darkest44
United States1009 Posts
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darkest44
United States1009 Posts
On November 19 2011 15:22 tuho12345 wrote: Oh shit Puzzle, Ganzi, Oz and Tyler is in the same bracket of the loser, they might have to fight for 1 spot tomorrow. Nooooooooooo That sucks... 3 code S players... meanwhile Incontrol's bracket looks pretty easy so far lol, few mediocre non koreans, maybe he'll actually win a few more games. | ||
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ssg
United States1779 Posts
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