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RPR_Tempest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia7799 Posts
November 19 2011 06:28 GMT
#8981
On November 19 2011 15:27 Yang Wenli wrote:
All right lets see who is more likely to beat Nestea in a ZvZ in bracket two. TLO, Spanishiwa or Machine?

Machine has the biggest chance out of the 3. But that's still like a 3% chance.
Soundwave, Zerg player from Canberra, Australia. @SoundwaveSC
SupLilSon
Profile Joined October 2011
Malaysia4123 Posts
November 19 2011 06:29 GMT
#8982
Gatored making big plays second MLG in a row, knocking Ganzi down is no small feat.
wats0n
Profile Joined July 2011
United States509 Posts
November 19 2011 06:29 GMT
#8983
On November 19 2011 15:27 Jehct wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2011 15:25 TT1 wrote:
On November 19 2011 15:17 DoomsVille wrote:
On November 19 2011 15:14 SniXSniPe wrote:
State is an amazing player, was expecting him to win.

Hoping HeavOnEarth beats Agh and then him, then I'd imagine Leenock should take his bracket side.

I can see gatored beating leenock. Not a good chance, but it is still possible. He comes up with strange builds in PvZ that can catch his opponents off guard (like he did to DRG). But yea, most likely leenock will take it.


gatored is an odd player, hes really good but for some reason he can go into a tournament and beat a player like drg but then lose to someone like strifecro(no offense to strife but drg is really good: D)

That's what happens when you flip coins. No offense to Gatored but his games against DRG were definitely well-executed all-ins (and that's not a reliable way to play).


I watched those games and they weren't all ins. WTF are you talking about? He went up to like 4 base on shattered.
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10090 Posts
November 19 2011 06:29 GMT
#8984
On November 19 2011 15:27 Jehct wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2011 15:25 TT1 wrote:
On November 19 2011 15:17 DoomsVille wrote:
On November 19 2011 15:14 SniXSniPe wrote:
State is an amazing player, was expecting him to win.

Hoping HeavOnEarth beats Agh and then him, then I'd imagine Leenock should take his bracket side.

I can see gatored beating leenock. Not a good chance, but it is still possible. He comes up with strange builds in PvZ that can catch his opponents off guard (like he did to DRG). But yea, most likely leenock will take it.


gatored is an odd player, hes really good but for some reason he can go into a tournament and beat a player like drg but then lose to someone like strifecro(no offense to strife but drg is really good: D)

That's what happens when you flip coins. No offense to Gatored but his games against DRG were definitely well-executed all-ins (and that's not a reliable way to play).


didnt see the games but i heard they were pretty solid wins, and he beat top 3-0 so.. cant be that allinish ^^
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
November 19 2011 06:29 GMT
#8985
On November 19 2011 15:28 ptbl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2011 15:27 Yang Wenli wrote:
All right lets see who is more likely to beat Nestea in a ZvZ in bracket two. TLO, Spanishiwa or Machine?


I think TLO has the best possibility due to his unpredictability.


Machine. He has the mechanics to keep up with Nestea in macro.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
DoomsVille
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada4885 Posts
November 19 2011 06:29 GMT
#8986
So my predictions are:
1st section: Leenock (56th Seed)
2nd section: NesTea (53rd Seed)
3rd section: MVP (3rd Seed)
4th section: HerO (7th Seed)

Possible upsets:
Gatored (40th seed) > Leenock
Sheth (2nd Seed) > HerO
sC (54th seed) > MVP

Odds are MVP is going into IdrA's section.
LighT.
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4501 Posts
November 19 2011 06:30 GMT
#8987
Some nice round 6 matches:
Hero vs KeeN (PvT)
sC vs LosirA (TvZ Code S style...SICK!!)
MajOr vs Sheth (Good TvZ)
Leenock vs Gatored (ZvP, can gatored make it 2 code s koreans in a row??)

Then we have..
nestea vs poor soul
MVP vs even poorer soul
TLO vs Spanishwa should be an ok match and I expect spanishwa to take it

and then..
State vs HeavOnEarth which I'm looking at eliminations on players like GanZi, Oz, Puzzle, MKP and going "Wat?"
Fighter
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1531 Posts
November 19 2011 06:30 GMT
#8988
So I'm looking through the open bracket... and man, GATORED.

2-0's Ganzi, like a BOSS. The dude really surprised me when he beat TOP at IEM, and now he takes down Ganzi? The dude's got some crazy potential. If he can beat Leenock tomorrow I will be totally blown away.
For Aiur???
oDieN[Siege]
Profile Joined November 2009
United States2905 Posts
November 19 2011 06:30 GMT
#8989
On November 19 2011 15:29 DoomsVille wrote:
So my predictions are:
1st section: Leenock (56th Seed)
2nd section: NesTea (53rd Seed)
3rd section: MVP (3rd Seed)
4th section: HerO (7th Seed)

Possible upsets:
Gatored (40th seed) > Leenock
Sheth (2nd Seed) > HerO
sC (54th seed) > MVP

Odds are MVP is going into IdrA's section.

Gatored > Leenock?
Wow O_O That's a ballsy prediction.
말크 : ^_^~ NeO)GabuAt, vGODieN
wklbishop
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1286 Posts
November 19 2011 06:30 GMT
#8990
On November 19 2011 15:27 Jehct wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2011 15:25 TT1 wrote:
On November 19 2011 15:17 DoomsVille wrote:
On November 19 2011 15:14 SniXSniPe wrote:
State is an amazing player, was expecting him to win.

Hoping HeavOnEarth beats Agh and then him, then I'd imagine Leenock should take his bracket side.

I can see gatored beating leenock. Not a good chance, but it is still possible. He comes up with strange builds in PvZ that can catch his opponents off guard (like he did to DRG). But yea, most likely leenock will take it.


gatored is an odd player, hes really good but for some reason he can go into a tournament and beat a player like drg but then lose to someone like strifecro(no offense to strife but drg is really good: D)

That's what happens when you flip coins. No offense to Gatored but his games against DRG were definitely well-executed all-ins (and that's not a reliable way to play).


LOLs. Well, you only criticize them when they're the favorite and not facing a big scary Korean player
Gameplay > Personality
fatworthlessvirgin
Profile Joined November 2011
United States34 Posts
November 19 2011 06:30 GMT
#8991
On November 19 2011 15:24 Zzoram wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2011 15:24 McFeser wrote:
On November 19 2011 15:22 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On November 19 2011 15:22 McFeser wrote:
On November 19 2011 15:20 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On November 19 2011 15:19 kwaky wrote:
How many ZvZ's has Nestea played already? ㅇ.ㅇ;;

3 zvz, 1 zv random, about to play another zvz

You're forgeting his zvz with IdrA which was nothing like an actually ZvZ match because it was entertaining

I missed it but I was just talking about actual providence games. How were the games vs idra? I saw the result and was kind of surprised

Really good. IdrA appeared to actually outplay Nestea (Really good harrassment), but he overcommitted a few times and Nestea did some strong timings to defeat him.


"outplaying" is a pretty bad term. The player who played better wins, that's why they win. If you make fewer minor mistakes but make a fatal mistake, you played worse, not better.


Hell yea baby! Nestea = Tebow

2legit2quit
I am literal scum.
DoomsVille
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada4885 Posts
November 19 2011 06:30 GMT
#8992
On November 19 2011 15:29 TT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2011 15:27 Jehct wrote:
On November 19 2011 15:25 TT1 wrote:
On November 19 2011 15:17 DoomsVille wrote:
On November 19 2011 15:14 SniXSniPe wrote:
State is an amazing player, was expecting him to win.

Hoping HeavOnEarth beats Agh and then him, then I'd imagine Leenock should take his bracket side.

I can see gatored beating leenock. Not a good chance, but it is still possible. He comes up with strange builds in PvZ that can catch his opponents off guard (like he did to DRG). But yea, most likely leenock will take it.


gatored is an odd player, hes really good but for some reason he can go into a tournament and beat a player like drg but then lose to someone like strifecro(no offense to strife but drg is really good: D)

That's what happens when you flip coins. No offense to Gatored but his games against DRG were definitely well-executed all-ins (and that's not a reliable way to play).


didnt see the games but i heard they were pretty solid wins, and he beat top 3-0 so.. cant be that allinish ^^

I think he was referring to his PvZ. His PvT seems godlike.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
November 19 2011 06:31 GMT
#8993
On November 19 2011 15:29 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2011 15:28 ptbl wrote:
On November 19 2011 15:27 Yang Wenli wrote:
All right lets see who is more likely to beat Nestea in a ZvZ in bracket two. TLO, Spanishiwa or Machine?


I think TLO has the best possibility due to his unpredictability.


Machine. He has the mechanics to keep up with Nestea in macro.

I don't think machine's mechanics are anywhere near as good as nestea's.
scudst0rm
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1149 Posts
November 19 2011 06:31 GMT
#8994
On November 19 2011 15:24 Zzoram wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2011 15:24 McFeser wrote:
On November 19 2011 15:22 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On November 19 2011 15:22 McFeser wrote:
On November 19 2011 15:20 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On November 19 2011 15:19 kwaky wrote:
How many ZvZ's has Nestea played already? ㅇ.ㅇ;;

3 zvz, 1 zv random, about to play another zvz

You're forgeting his zvz with IdrA which was nothing like an actually ZvZ match because it was entertaining

I missed it but I was just talking about actual providence games. How were the games vs idra? I saw the result and was kind of surprised

Really good. IdrA appeared to actually outplay Nestea (Really good harrassment), but he overcommitted a few times and Nestea did some strong timings to defeat him.


"outplaying" is a pretty bad term. The player who played better wins, that's why they win. If you make fewer minor mistakes but make a fatal mistake, you played worse, not better.


agreed, I would say Idra was dictating the pace of the games and using that to gain an advantage, but both times he made small mistakes and opened up a window for nestea which he took to win.
You're like a one ranger army comin' at me...
DoomsVille
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada4885 Posts
November 19 2011 06:32 GMT
#8995
On November 19 2011 15:30 ODieN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2011 15:29 DoomsVille wrote:
So my predictions are:
1st section: Leenock (56th Seed)
2nd section: NesTea (53rd Seed)
3rd section: MVP (3rd Seed)
4th section: HerO (7th Seed)

Possible upsets:
Gatored (40th seed) > Leenock
Sheth (2nd Seed) > HerO
sC (54th seed) > MVP

Odds are MVP is going into IdrA's section.

Gatored > Leenock?
Wow O_O That's a ballsy prediction.

I said "possible" not "probable"

But seriously, Leenock has never been spectacular in ZvP. And Gatored can pull off some weird ass builds.
DoomsVille
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada4885 Posts
November 19 2011 06:32 GMT
#8996
On November 19 2011 15:31 redFF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2011 15:29 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On November 19 2011 15:28 ptbl wrote:
On November 19 2011 15:27 Yang Wenli wrote:
All right lets see who is more likely to beat Nestea in a ZvZ in bracket two. TLO, Spanishiwa or Machine?


I think TLO has the best possibility due to his unpredictability.


Machine. He has the mechanics to keep up with Nestea in macro.

I don't think machine's mechanics are anywhere near as good as nestea's.

You don't think that because they aren't. No offense to machine but saying his mechanics are near NesTea's is laughable
_Depression
Profile Joined October 2011
United States251 Posts
November 19 2011 06:33 GMT
#8997
If NesTea shows up hung over again, anyone could beat him.
Lunares
Profile Joined May 2010
United States909 Posts
November 19 2011 06:33 GMT
#8998
On November 19 2011 15:29 DoomsVille wrote:
So my predictions are:
1st section: Leenock (56th Seed)
2nd section: NesTea (53rd Seed)
3rd section: MVP (3rd Seed)
4th section: HerO (7th Seed)

Possible upsets:
Gatored (40th seed) > Leenock
Sheth (2nd Seed) > HerO
sC (54th seed) > MVP

Odds are MVP is going into IdrA's section.


Idra wouldn't have MVP (at least according to liquipedia).

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2011_MLG_Pro_Circuit/Providence

According to that Idra's bracket gets the winner of Open Bracket 1 (most likely Leenock). Naniwa would get the winner of Open bracket 3 (most likely MVP). That would set up an interesting rematch after Naniwa beat MVP earlier. Ofc Boxer/Select/SLush are no pushovers especially if MVP gets tired.
Yang Wenli
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2283 Posts
November 19 2011 06:33 GMT
#8999
On November 19 2011 15:32 DoomsVille wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2011 15:30 ODieN wrote:
On November 19 2011 15:29 DoomsVille wrote:
So my predictions are:
1st section: Leenock (56th Seed)
2nd section: NesTea (53rd Seed)
3rd section: MVP (3rd Seed)
4th section: HerO (7th Seed)

Possible upsets:
Gatored (40th seed) > Leenock
Sheth (2nd Seed) > HerO
sC (54th seed) > MVP

Odds are MVP is going into IdrA's section.

Gatored > Leenock?
Wow O_O That's a ballsy prediction.

I said "possible" not "probable"

But seriously, Leenock has never been spectacular in ZvP. And Gatored can pull off some weird ass builds.


I could see that happening, Leenock did lose to Inca at one point.
tuho12345
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
4482 Posts
November 19 2011 06:33 GMT
#9000
On November 19 2011 15:29 wats0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2011 15:27 Jehct wrote:
On November 19 2011 15:25 TT1 wrote:
On November 19 2011 15:17 DoomsVille wrote:
On November 19 2011 15:14 SniXSniPe wrote:
State is an amazing player, was expecting him to win.

Hoping HeavOnEarth beats Agh and then him, then I'd imagine Leenock should take his bracket side.

I can see gatored beating leenock. Not a good chance, but it is still possible. He comes up with strange builds in PvZ that can catch his opponents off guard (like he did to DRG). But yea, most likely leenock will take it.


gatored is an odd player, hes really good but for some reason he can go into a tournament and beat a player like drg but then lose to someone like strifecro(no offense to strife but drg is really good: D)

That's what happens when you flip coins. No offense to Gatored but his games against DRG were definitely well-executed all-ins (and that's not a reliable way to play).


I watched those games and they weren't all ins. WTF are you talking about? He went up to like 4 base on shattered.

Some ppl don't realize that Protoss can't take 3 bases at 8 mins mark or mass expanding. Their definition of all-in is just totally different I guess.
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