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Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
November 16 2011 10:39 GMT
#681
Hey Draz! Where have you been recently?
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
November 16 2011 10:39 GMT
#682
No sentry, I already hate this build from MC.
Brian333
Profile Joined August 2010
657 Posts
November 16 2011 10:39 GMT
#683
Artosis quickly becoming a Ganja fan.
Termit
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden3466 Posts
November 16 2011 10:39 GMT
#684
On November 16 2011 19:37 Koshi wrote:
I really hope those P players will keep doing this passive style. Force T to use their brain, and make other (better) compositions.

There is no other composition that works. Why do you think everyone still is using MMM?
( ̄。 ̄)~zzz ◕ ◡ ◕
Elem
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden4717 Posts
November 16 2011 10:39 GMT
#685
Noooo Artosis....don't ruin this. Only you and Fionn have the power to ruin this for GanZi...
#freeshauni
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
November 16 2011 10:40 GMT
#686
On November 16 2011 19:39 Drazerk wrote:
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On November 16 2011 19:34 Drazerk wrote:
(P)MC vs (T)GanZi

Game is on Antiga Shipyard

In the top left is MC

While in the bottom right is Ganzi


1:40

Barracks from Ganzi


2:50

Expansion first from MC

Orbital from Ganzi


5:20


Three barracks and double gas from Ganzi

Warp gate tech from MC


6:30


Three barracks for MC

Two engineering bays from Ganzi


7:20


Marines sniping proxy pylons preventing the four gate

1/1 upgrades from Ganzi as MC takes more gas


8:40


Robo bay and a twilight council from MC

Stim and combat shields for Ganzi along with a factory


9:30


Double forge and blink from MC
OMGKEI
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia590 Posts
November 16 2011 10:40 GMT
#687
Ganzi really likes quick double ebay
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
November 16 2011 10:40 GMT
#688
On November 16 2011 19:39 Hassybaby wrote:
Hey Draz! Where have you been recently?


Working
monk
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States8477 Posts
November 16 2011 10:41 GMT
#689
MC copying adellscot =O
Moderator
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
November 16 2011 10:41 GMT
#690
On November 16 2011 19:40 Drazerk wrote:
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On November 16 2011 19:39 Drazerk wrote:
On November 16 2011 19:38 Drazerk wrote:
On November 16 2011 19:38 Drazerk wrote:
On November 16 2011 19:37 Drazerk wrote:
On November 16 2011 19:35 Drazerk wrote:
On November 16 2011 19:34 Drazerk wrote:
On November 16 2011 19:34 Drazerk wrote:
(P)MC vs (T)GanZi

Game is on Antiga Shipyard

In the top left is MC

While in the bottom right is Ganzi


1:40

Barracks from Ganzi


2:50

Expansion first from MC

Orbital from Ganzi


5:20


Three barracks and double gas from Ganzi

Warp gate tech from MC


6:30


Three barracks for MC

Two engineering bays from Ganzi


7:20


Marines sniping proxy pylons preventing the four gate

1/1 upgrades from Ganzi as MC takes more gas


8:40


Robo bay and a twilight council from MC

Stim and combat shields for Ganzi along with a factory


9:30


Double forge and blink from MC


11:00


2/2 from ganzi and 1/1 for MC
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
November 16 2011 10:41 GMT
#691
On November 16 2011 19:40 OMGKEI wrote:
Ganzi really likes quick double ebay


It's particularly strong vs MC since he's usually really late on upgrades
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 16 2011 10:41 GMT
#692
No concussive? bleh.
I had a good night of sleep.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
November 16 2011 10:42 GMT
#693
On November 16 2011 19:41 Drazerk wrote:
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On November 16 2011 19:37 Drazerk wrote:
On November 16 2011 19:35 Drazerk wrote:
On November 16 2011 19:34 Drazerk wrote:
On November 16 2011 19:34 Drazerk wrote:
(P)MC vs (T)GanZi

Game is on Antiga Shipyard

In the top left is MC

While in the bottom right is Ganzi


1:40

Barracks from Ganzi


2:50

Expansion first from MC

Orbital from Ganzi


5:20


Three barracks and double gas from Ganzi

Warp gate tech from MC


6:30


Three barracks for MC

Two engineering bays from Ganzi


7:20


Marines sniping proxy pylons preventing the four gate

1/1 upgrades from Ganzi as MC takes more gas


8:40


Robo bay and a twilight council from MC

Stim and combat shields for Ganzi along with a factory


9:30


Double forge and blink from MC


11:00


2/2 from ganzi and 1/1 for MC


12:00


Medivac snipe from MC after killing the factory of Ganzi
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
November 16 2011 10:42 GMT
#694
Thats it MC snipe those medivacs lets learn from the last game and keep the number as low as possible
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Ovreel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States206 Posts
November 16 2011 10:42 GMT
#695
Nice medivac snipe from MC. Surprised Ganzi doesn't have concussive shell.
Keo.837 Twitch.tv/Ovreel
Snowbear
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Korea (South)1925 Posts
November 16 2011 10:42 GMT
#696
On November 16 2011 19:38 Elefanto wrote:
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On November 16 2011 19:35 Snowbear wrote:
On November 16 2011 19:32 bittman wrote:
Once again terran MMM and wonder why their cheap 200 food army loses to an expensive 200 food army =/

The more I watch, the more I wonder when Terran are going to try something more in TvP after Terran players countered Protoss arguments with "need to innovate!" =/


We all want mech to work, but it just doesnt... Why is this so hard to understand? Do you think it's fun to be forced to make MMM, and to know you will lose the battle lategame? I have 20% winrate tvp (high masters) and I lose exactly like these pros. Ask jinro or any other terran pro what he thinks of tvp. He will use the word "joke", I promise you.


You could also rearrange your builds, do something different or in a different order.
We've seen like 10 different PvT variations from protoss, like completely different.

Terran follows always the same scheme.
1 rax fe into 3 rax into reaktor medivac with +1 upgrading into 5 rax armor und second engi and third.

It's always the same scheme. Terran has SO much more potential than that basic build scheme they basically do since
Beta. The sad part is they still dominate TvP with it.


Rearrange the builds? And make what? Tanks? You seriously think that tanks are good in tvp? Banshees? Thors? Ravens? Battlecruisers? All countered by the HT. Explain me what we should make, because I wonder if all pro's don't see what you guys see...
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
November 16 2011 10:42 GMT
#697
On November 16 2011 19:42 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2011 19:41 Drazerk wrote:
On November 16 2011 19:40 Drazerk wrote:
On November 16 2011 19:39 Drazerk wrote:
On November 16 2011 19:38 Drazerk wrote:
On November 16 2011 19:38 Drazerk wrote:
On November 16 2011 19:37 Drazerk wrote:
On November 16 2011 19:35 Drazerk wrote:
On November 16 2011 19:34 Drazerk wrote:
On November 16 2011 19:34 Drazerk wrote:
(P)MC vs (T)GanZi

Game is on Antiga Shipyard

In the top left is MC

While in the bottom right is Ganzi


1:40

Barracks from Ganzi


2:50

Expansion first from MC

Orbital from Ganzi


5:20


Three barracks and double gas from Ganzi

Warp gate tech from MC


6:30


Three barracks for MC

Two engineering bays from Ganzi


7:20


Marines sniping proxy pylons preventing the four gate

1/1 upgrades from Ganzi as MC takes more gas


8:40


Robo bay and a twilight council from MC

Stim and combat shields for Ganzi along with a factory


9:30


Double forge and blink from MC


11:00


2/2 from ganzi and 1/1 for MC


12:00


Medivac snipe from MC after killing the factory of Ganzi


12:30


Ghost academy and a third base for Ganzi

Storm and charge for MC
NipponBanzai
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada518 Posts
November 16 2011 10:42 GMT
#698
On November 16 2011 19:37 bittman wrote:
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On November 16 2011 19:33 ShivaN wrote:
On November 16 2011 19:32 bittman wrote:
Once again terran MMM and wonder why their cheap 200 food army loses to an expensive 200 food army =/

The more I watch, the more I wonder when Terran are going to try something more in TvP after Terran players countered Protoss arguments with "need to innovate!" =/

And what pray-tell would that be?


Tanks look pretty strong early game. How bout pressure with a few tanks then transition into your mass bio?
Why not more banshees?
Battlecruisers?
I remember ravens having abilities?
Reapers late game?

I don't know ShivaN, I'm not a pro. But I'll predict Ganzi's entire game now for MC to plan against:

Ganzi will expand once, go up to a few barracks, control map, expand again, counter whatever tech MC goes for with vikings/ghosts and in the meantime drop until they both get to a 200 food army then somehow hope that the army full of 50/0 and 100/25 units beats an army full of 100/0, 125/50, 50/150 and 300/200 units.

If they're creative, they'll drop during that attack. Apparently that's "creativity" now days for terrans? =/


lol look brotato, i think you should leave terran unit compositions to terran players. I could honestly say I think zerg and protoss tons of things they don't but I shut my mouth because I understand they probably know more about their respective race then I do.
Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
November 16 2011 10:42 GMT
#699
MC should go 2 robo colossus soon, that switch is really dangerous.
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
November 16 2011 10:43 GMT
#700
On November 16 2011 19:42 Ovreel wrote:
Nice medivac snipe from MC. Surprised Ganzi doesn't have concussive shell.

It's pretty easy to forget when you're going marine heavy in the early game.
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
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