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SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
November 17 2011 16:38 GMT
#1581
On November 18 2011 01:34 Siphyo wrote:
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On November 18 2011 00:53 SeaSwift wrote:
My ideal commentary would either:

a) be focussed entirely on the game (high-level analysis), and be correct with their analysis

or b) be more casual, but actually funny.

If Tasteless jokes were fresher, different ones than he used last year and the duo weren't so biased and often plain wrong, I would prefer their commentary far more. As it is, I wouldn't call it terrible. But there are other casters who are far better (Bitterdam, K[9] etc).


1. Taste is subjective. You think Tasteless isn't funny, other people laugh their asses of at Wolf and Moletrap's casting. I think you're gonna have trouble getting around how the majority prefers Tastosis over any other casting duo. Khaldor and Day[9] are an amazing casting duo as well. Bitter is ok, and doesn't deserve all the unfounded criticism he gets. Rotterdam? Please. But once again, taste is subjective. Personally I loved IdrA's casting on the few occasions he casted, because of the high level correct analysis he provides.

2. If you keep writing Tasteosis, nobody is gonna take you serious.

3. People should first of all do stuff they are good at, and not do the stuff they suck at. Artosis isn't good at being objective, so he just doesn't do objective. Doa, moletrap and wolf are in most cases not good at being funny, but somehow have gotten it in their head that casters are some kind of comedians, leading to a lot of criticism.


I'm perfectly happy to discuss this via PMs, but not here. The TL hipsters will post even more helpful comments about "more caster bashing" and neither of us will end up satisfied with the thread.
hai2u
Profile Joined September 2011
688 Posts
November 17 2011 18:00 GMT
#1582
erh Tasteless is ok. It's Artosis that I can't stand with his extreme annoying bias and constant put downs of players he doesn't like.
Shortizz
Profile Joined July 2011
Singapore129 Posts
November 17 2011 18:06 GMT
#1583
On November 17 2011 20:40 Scarecrow wrote:
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On November 17 2011 19:56 SeaSwift wrote:
On November 17 2011 17:54 Squalish wrote:
artosis is the analyst, tasteless is the color commentator. it's hard not to like the guy, he's interesting and funny. analyzing caters to one crowd of viewers, and tasteless' personality/wit/humor keeps those who don't necessarily play sc2 at masters+ league entertained. try to look at it from a bigger point of view.


I'm only in Platinum at the moment, but Tasteless just isn't funny/witty enough to make up for his obvious lack of game knowledge. Just because people are in lower leagues doesn't mean they don't care about what is going on at all, and I'm willing to bet a number of Gold or lower players could cast a game without missing as many obvious things as Tasteosis.

Lack of game knowledge? I can guarantee you Tasteless knows WAY more than you about starcraft lol. He'd be masters if he played semi-regularly. Tastosis don't have to commentate on every little thing, if you can already see what they've chosen to skip over, what's the issue?


I doubt so. He's comments on the build and Meta game are like 6 months outdated. When i was still a newb, i bought GSL Tickets so i can watch the VODs and hopefully learn some stuff but really ive never learned anything that Tasteless has ever said that i dont already know. Now that im in GM on SEA and No.1 Master in my NA league, i find his attempts at analysing the players/Game hilarious. Artosis is the one who at least knows the scene and the Metagame. I can put up with his fanboyish comments because at least he STILL understands Starcraft 2. Dont think i could say the same for Tasteless. Dont get me wrong, i think this combo of Artosis dropping knowledge and Tasteless making jokes is fine. But when he dumbly just agrees with everything Artosis said even when he made the rare mistake just proves how much knowledge he is lacking.

Find it funny to see this thread because i get bash everywhere when i try to explain that it seems like Tasteless has lost his passion and barely understand the metagame these days. I mean sure some of ur jokes might be funny, but not everyone on the stream comes from NA and understand half of your jokes. So its kinda annoying when u spend 2mins talking about a joke that half of the viewers dont understand and miss the action going on. Im pretty sure there ARE ppl would like to listen to Build Orders and starting Strategys so skipping them for a ''joke'' all the time doesnt seem like a good idea.
darkest44
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1009 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-18 15:56:11
November 18 2011 15:37 GMT
#1584
Seaswift entitled little asshats like you make the SC2 community and "nerds" in general look bad and reinforcing the stereotypes of delusional "neckbeards" with ridiculous standards that they themselves would never meet. Sitting in your throne (computer chair) dishing out judgement and rants on the lesser beings. Seriously, get fucking over yourself, the world doesn't need to know that you don't like a vastly popular caster. Who the fuck are you? Have you casted, where can we see your work? Surely you must be the greatest caster in the world to have such greater views than everyone else.

Tasteless is plenty funny, you on the other hand haven't demonstrated any grasp of humor. What is funny to you? Tell us some jokes if you know what real humor is and Tasteless doesn't, please enlighten us, at least it'd be better than your baseless bashing.

Second if he apparently doesn't understand the game, first please link all the tournaments you've won and rank 1 ladder spots you've reached to come to that conclusion. Furthermore, NOT EVERYONE WATCHING IS GRANDMASTERS, in fact the vast majority are probably gold or less. Thus spending the whole cast giving some nasal ultra high level analysis that 95% of your viewers won't even fully understand is completely retarded and pointless. I'm sorry you can't understand that this esport would die without the vast majority of sub-grandmaster viewers and even more casual viewers who might not even play the game. Tastosis do a fine job of walking the line between high level analysis and simplifying the game for more casual viewers.

Tastosis have put more into esports than you will in 10million lifetimes writing stupid, entitled rants about them on the internet. I've watched plenty of sports and tastosis make me laugh more than any professional sportscaster has while being every bit as analytical as the dude explaining to me how great that pick and roll truly was or pointing out the obvious that the quarterback needs to throw a hail mary because there's 5 seconds left on the clock with 70 yards to go. Go find a new hobby or commentate yourself and show us how it's done o great one.
noddy
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom927 Posts
November 18 2011 16:04 GMT
#1585
So you wrote 4 outdrawn paragraphs about how someone else's opinion is different to yours. I find it funny that you state you've watched plenty of sports yet comment on people criticizing casters and say they should try it for themselves. You don't need to play/commentate the game to judge it.

I'm glad you enjoy Tastosis, I don't and apparently the poster you ranted at doesn't either.
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