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[IPL] Fight Club 2: Sheth vs. Ryung - Page 8
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Leifish
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Honest opinion? I'm part of the 1%. | ||
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
On November 13 2011 12:38 Liquid`Nazgul wrote: Hmm such as Hero 7-0 NASL, SlayerS beating both Mouz and Liquid, and EG using Puma in every ace match they find? The delay (it's not even lag) exists but it is nothing like you're making it out to be. but it was enough for jinro to opt out of nasl season 1? oh snap :D ask any gamer, any real gamer. its doesnt matter if you win by an inch or a mile, winning is winning. point is, they could be playing for a peice of bubble gum, and anyone who is competitive enough to get to this level, would want to win. because they love to win. | ||
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
Knew he could do it :D | ||
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OGKruemmel
Croatia270 Posts
And for all the lag whiners: Slayers for example are ripping are apart foreign team with their lag aswell. The isnt that hart, that you cant play. | ||
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ClaytonBigsby
Uganda35 Posts
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BigKahunaBurger
Australia334 Posts
On November 13 2011 17:24 turdburgler wrote: but it was enough for jinro to opt out of nasl season 1? oh snap :D ask any gamer, any real gamer. its doesnt matter if you win by an inch or a mile, winning is winning. point is, they could be playing for a peice of bubble gum, and anyone who is competitive enough to get to this level, would want to win. because they love to win. Ask any poster, any REAL poster. Quoting the Fast and the Furious is the lamest thing you can do. | ||
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pampelmus
Switzerland215 Posts
sheth kicked ass. end of story. congrats! | ||
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Farone
Netherlands1219 Posts
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probablywrong
Philippines209 Posts
On November 13 2011 17:24 turdburgler wrote: but it was enough for jinro to opt out of nasl season 1? oh snap :D Well he's playing season 2. And he never bothered to apply for season 1. so what's your point? | ||
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Benjef
United Kingdom6921 Posts
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Shinta)
United States1716 Posts
On November 13 2011 17:24 turdburgler wrote: but it was enough for jinro to opt out of nasl season 1? oh snap :D ask any gamer, any real gamer. its doesnt matter if you win by an inch or a mile, winning is winning. point is, they could be playing for a peice of bubble gum, and anyone who is competitive enough to get to this level, would want to win. because they love to win. Has Jinro performed up to par since his GSL glory days? That 1 tournament is the only reason he is famous today, and although he's a good player, he hasn't been successful in any major tournament since his ro8? showing in one of the earlier GSL's. Sorry but Jinro can't be compared to top level Korean players. The fact of the matter is that Ryung isn't that good. Sheth isn't awesome, but he is better than Ryung. Period. 2nd part. Ask any gamer, any real gamer. It doesn't matter whether you win by an inch or a mile, winning is winning. But players don't play their best unless they are playing in a major tournament that they want to win for their own benefit. They are used to winning by now, and winning a small $500 prize pool (I'm very poor and would LOVE $500, but for the gamers who are actual pro gamers, $500 is nothing more than a week or 2's worth of outings) isn't worth giving it your all. You must be very new to eSports thinking top level players play even 75% at ALL events they play in. They'll only play 100% at 1-2 events per relatively long period of time. (in this case it would be during GSL and MLG, whenever they play those. And you can include other events like DreamHack and ROG/other international events that happen if you are talking about lesser pro players). Players like NesTea, and MVP will only play their best game during GSL and MLG. The reason smaller tournaments (still big, but smaller in significance), such as the Chinese tournaments, the IPL, NASL, etc, are won by other players such as elfi, MKP, IdrA, SaSe, HuK, etc, are because the players that are better than them either don't play or don't give it their all. Sure those players are good (elfi MKP and IdrA are fkin awesome), but they aren't as good as MVP, NesTea. | ||
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courtpanda
866 Posts
On November 13 2011 21:09 Shinta) wrote: Has Jinro performed up to par since his GSL glory days? That 1 tournament is the only reason he is famous today, and although he's a good player, he hasn't been successful in any major tournament since his ro8? showing in one of the earlier GSL's. Sorry but Jinro can't be compared to top level Korean players. The fact of the matter is that Ryung isn't that good. Sheth isn't awesome, but he is better than Ryung. Period. 2nd part. Ask any gamer, any real gamer. It doesn't matter whether you win by an inch or a mile, winning is winning. But players don't play their best unless they are playing in a major tournament that they want to win for their own benefit. They are used to winning by now, and winning a small $500 prize pool (I'm very poor and would LOVE $500, but for the gamers who are actual pro gamers, $500 is nothing more than a week or 2's worth of outings) isn't worth giving it your all. You must be very new to eSports thinking top level players play even 75% at ALL events they play in. They'll only play 100% at 1-2 events per relatively long period of time. (in this case it would be during GSL and MLG, whenever they play those. And you can include other events like DreamHack and ROG/other international events that happen if you are talking about lesser pro players). Players like NesTea, and MVP will only play their best game during GSL and MLG. The reason smaller tournaments (still big, but smaller in significance), such as the Chinese tournaments, the IPL, NASL, etc, are won by other players such as elfi, MKP, IdrA, SaSe, HuK, etc, are because the players that are better than them either don't play or don't give it their all. Sure those players are good (elfi MKP and IdrA are fkin awesome), but they aren't as good as MVP, NesTea. GSL gives you time to prepare for your next opponent. everything else (except NASL) isnt. this is like NBA finals. lebron is (supposed to be) the best player, but dirk and the mavs beat the crap out of the "big 3", and are the NBA champions. shouldnt matter whos supposed to be better, whoever won, won. | ||
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asdfVSqwert
Germany174 Posts
Can't you just watch it and enjoy!? If you ever let this be, then you may enjoy more SC2! | ||
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JimPanzer
Germany339 Posts
oh...seems as if it already took place. :[ | ||
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pampelmus
Switzerland215 Posts
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Nifel
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two.watup
United States371 Posts
Not to mention Sheth's salary is probably bigger, Sheth was probably giving even less effort than Ryung. Probably not, but making stupid arguments is stupid. GJ Sheth, better luck next time Ryung. | ||
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ninjamyst
United States1903 Posts
On November 13 2011 21:09 Shinta) wrote: 2nd part. Ask any gamer, any real gamer. It doesn't matter whether you win by an inch or a mile, winning is winning. But players don't play their best unless they are playing in a major tournament that they want to win for their own benefit. They are used to winning by now, and winning a small $500 prize pool (I'm very poor and would LOVE $500, but for the gamers who are actual pro gamers, $500 is nothing more than a week or 2's worth of outings) isn't worth giving it your all. You must be very new to eSports thinking top level players play even 75% at ALL events they play in. They'll only play 100% at 1-2 events per relatively long period of time. (in this case it would be during GSL and MLG, whenever they play those. And you can include other events like DreamHack and ROG/other international events that happen if you are talking about lesser pro players). Players like NesTea, and MVP will only play their best game during GSL and MLG. The reason smaller tournaments (still big, but smaller in significance), such as the Chinese tournaments, the IPL, NASL, etc, are won by other players such as elfi, MKP, IdrA, SaSe, HuK, etc, are because the players that are better than them either don't play or don't give it their all. Sure those players are good (elfi MKP and IdrA are fkin awesome), but they aren't as good as MVP, NesTea. IPL and NASL both have a bigger prize pool than MLG. How do you know how top level players think?? Please don't preach your opinions like you actually know how they feel/think about winning. | ||
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KiNGxXx
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FabledIntegral
United States9232 Posts
On November 13 2011 21:09 Shinta) wrote: Has Jinro performed up to par since his GSL glory days? That 1 tournament is the only reason he is famous today, and although he's a good player, he hasn't been successful in any major tournament since his ro8? showing in one of the earlier GSL's. Sorry but Jinro can't be compared to top level Korean players. The fact of the matter is that Ryung isn't that good. Sheth isn't awesome, but he is better than Ryung. Period. 2nd part. Ask any gamer, any real gamer. It doesn't matter whether you win by an inch or a mile, winning is winning. But players don't play their best unless they are playing in a major tournament that they want to win for their own benefit. They are used to winning by now, and winning a small $500 prize pool (I'm very poor and would LOVE $500, but for the gamers who are actual pro gamers, $500 is nothing more than a week or 2's worth of outings) isn't worth giving it your all. You must be very new to eSports thinking top level players play even 75% at ALL events they play in. They'll only play 100% at 1-2 events per relatively long period of time. (in this case it would be during GSL and MLG, whenever they play those. And you can include other events like DreamHack and ROG/other international events that happen if you are talking about lesser pro players). Players like NesTea, and MVP will only play their best game during GSL and MLG. The reason smaller tournaments (still big, but smaller in significance), such as the Chinese tournaments, the IPL, NASL, etc, are won by other players such as elfi, MKP, IdrA, SaSe, HuK, etc, are because the players that are better than them either don't play or don't give it their all. Sure those players are good (elfi MKP and IdrA are fkin awesome), but they aren't as good as MVP, NesTea. 1. Jinro won an MLG, which he is known for in that regard. 2. You're wrong about the prize pool. Many progamers are hardly making any money whatsoever. This was especially true in BW, where the players not on the A-team hardly received any salary, but rather just rent + barely enough to eat. They need all the money they can get, they are hardly living a luxurious lifestyle. 3. You must be very new to esports if you don't think progamers are giving it at least 75% at all times in a tourney setting. If they weren't going to give 75% they wouldn't sign up. | ||
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