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Synwave
Profile Joined July 2009
United States2803 Posts
October 17 2011 07:16 GMT
#221
I just meandered into this thread, who is ESEA and how have they had three seasons that Ive never heard of?
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Secret05
Profile Joined August 2010
United States342 Posts
October 17 2011 07:33 GMT
#222
On October 17 2011 16:16 Synwave wrote:
I just meandered into this thread, who is ESEA and how have they had three seasons that Ive never heard of?


ESEA is by far the biggest online esports league in the US. They've been doing counterstrike 1.6, counterstrike source, and team fortress 2 for years. Just recently they've jumped into the sc2 scene but because their online client doesn't transition well to sc2 it hasn't been the biggest hit. Whoever in this thread that has said ESEA isn't a big deal and is small obviously has never played cs1.6 and css. They have over 10,000 subscribers that pay a monthly fee and people also have to pay an amount to enter tournaments. The big deal with their client is that it is a program that runs outside of the game and automatically organizes a 5v5 exhibition game with other members. This obviously doesn't transition well to a game like sc2 and that's why it hasn't been the biggest hit for the sc2 community.
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HellfireSamurai
Profile Joined July 2010
United States9 Posts
October 17 2011 07:40 GMT
#223
On October 17 2011 16:33 Secret05 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2011 16:16 Synwave wrote:
I just meandered into this thread, who is ESEA and how have they had three seasons that Ive never heard of?


ESEA is by far the biggest online esports league in the US. They've been doing counterstrike 1.6, counterstrike source, and team fortress 2 for years. Just recently they've jumped into the sc2 scene but because their online client doesn't transition well to sc2 it hasn't been the biggest hit. Whoever in this thread that has said ESEA isn't a big deal and is small obviously has never played cs1.6 and css. They have over 10,000 subscribers that pay a monthly fee and people also have to pay an amount to enter tournaments. The big deal with their client is that it is a program that runs outside of the game and automatically organizes a 5v5 exhibition game with other members. This obviously doesn't transition well to a game like sc2 and that's why it hasn't been the biggest hit for the sc2 community.


Biased much?

Whoever in this thread that say ESEA isn't a big deal is 100% correct since we're posting in a SC-focused forum and we don't care about how ESEA acts in other scenes if it can't even advertise SC2 properly. I don't see how the client affects the fail of ESEA to advertise anything going on with the league for SC2...
Synwave
Profile Joined July 2009
United States2803 Posts
October 17 2011 07:43 GMT
#224
Im sorry I guess between all the MLG action and the fact that every CS player I know (including some coders and server admins) has never mentioned this Im out of the loop. I guess I will have to google it or something.
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dbizzle
Profile Joined May 2010
United States395 Posts
October 18 2011 02:34 GMT
#225
Hello everybody, MLG weekend was a blast and congrats to + Show Spoiler +
Huk
for winning!!! I talked to incontrol and cleared up any bad blood between us. I hope you guys enjoyed the starcraft matches as much as I.

Sign ups for season10 is almost over, I would like for whoever wanted to participate to sign up with 4 paid members to secure your spot. Before the season starts, I will post up the map list and other things to come in the new season. You can sign up and keep checking at www.eseanews.com for updated features.

SoKHo
Profile Joined April 2011
Korea (South)1081 Posts
October 18 2011 04:22 GMT
#226
holy shit I just discovered this thread lolol. Just took the last 40 mins reading through all 12 pages. Haha. Never heard of ESEA before and I watch ALOT of sc. I thought they were some SEA server league or something so I was never interested. It was so funny how the 1.6 peeps started raiding the sc forums. Well, if teams like EG, Liquid, FXO,etc doesn't participate I won't watch for sure. If not, then I'll probably watch.
"If you don't understand my silence, you won't understand my words"|| Big Nal_rA fan boy!! Nal_rA, Bisu, Huk, MC, Hero fighting! SKT1---->
dbizzle
Profile Joined May 2010
United States395 Posts
October 18 2011 06:05 GMT
#227
ESEA has extended the registration by 24 hrs, once the registration is over the team lock will be in place.
dbizzle
Profile Joined May 2010
United States395 Posts
October 18 2011 22:24 GMT
#228
only 6 hours left!
PenguinMURDA
Profile Joined October 2011
United States44 Posts
October 18 2011 23:24 GMT
#229
I've been a CS:S player for years now at high levels and ESEA has been the best run league. Da bears has always been an important figure in the 1.6 and CSS community so I have no doubt he knows how to run a good league for SC2. I recently purchased SC2 and have a team readied up for this season. I encourage everyone that wants a well run league to join it.

My organization Area51 is looking to sponsor a professional to play SC2 for us. If you're interested please pm me your credentials. Gl to all who participate
Zeller
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States1109 Posts
October 18 2011 23:46 GMT
#230
If I ran my own clan league I couldn't honestly be serious about it if I awarded a W/O for the grand finals.

Unless of course one team refused to play at all.

Seriously fuck all the elaborate paragraphs of explanation, it's not hard to schedule a day to have some Starcraft matches played.
Last.Epic , Epic[LighT]
YuTz
Profile Joined September 2010
United States119 Posts
October 19 2011 00:04 GMT
#231
After reading many of the arguments going back and forth between Geoff and what seems to be an ESEA admin, I am going to have to agree with Geoff on this one. As the managers for Quantic Gaming's SC2 Division heading up ESEA involvement, I was very displeased with the website issues and delays from both Season 8 and Season 9. Because of this we opted not to join in on Season 10. I think ESEA has the potential to be a Premier Clan League for SC2, but for some reason have fallen short the past two seasons.

To be constructive I suggest the following. A better less annoying way to report matches that allows for FFWs to be reported within the Match Reporting System. Something more along the lines of what CEVO used for their only Starcraft 2 Clan League so long ago. It was very fast and easy to upload replays and report matches.

Also, I suggest a better method to actually speak with an ESEA admin besides email tag using ESEA website. Maybe some kind of mumble or ventrilo server? The only thing I have been able to find is the mIRC client to ESEA support which is very confusing.

Also, the maps need to be updated as they were practically the same from Season 8 and are behind in the times.

Another annoying item was how scheduling matches with opposing teams was a nightmare because the email system set up through ESEA website was broken. I would get repeat and redundant emails about scheduling a match offer even after I scheduled it. I would also get an email warning me I had 24 hours to make an offer and the one minute later an email saying the time limit was hit and the match was automatically scheduled.

Personally if ESEA really wants to improve the experience they need to schedule something with all the team managers and actually follow up to discuss how to improve the clan league. I know da bears sent out an invite regarding meeting up and discussing this at MLG Orlando but I heard nothing after the initial offer.

My only positive experience was working with da bears over ESEA email and time responding in a timely manner to support all the above needs on a day to day basis. Thanks bro.

Most of the issues can be solved with some serious site database reconstructing and actually building a solid/innovative and quick interface to allow managers/schedulers the ability to take care of reporting/scheduling/rules etc all within 5 mins or less. (Please improve the replay parser! And don't make it one at a time uploads!)

I hope this post was seen as constructive and informative. I dont want to come off like I am bashing ESEA. If you would like to speak more about this please PM me. Thanks!
Old School.....
YuTz
Profile Joined September 2010
United States119 Posts
October 19 2011 00:10 GMT
#232
One last thing, the league needs much more exposure/marketing. I loved the casting the clan match of the week from djWheat but for some reason that stopped. Things like that should be happening atleast once or twice a week.

And like tQWinter stated earlier, there needs to be more divisions for teams to compete and actually play other teams within the same skill level. There should be try outs for different leagues and such.
Old School.....
GunPaladin
Profile Joined September 2011
United States1205 Posts
October 19 2011 03:21 GMT
#233
Glad to see da bears and incontrol settle things. ESEA has been the main source of esports competition for awhile now. Please don't just them based on a new game.
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ChuCky.Ca
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada2497 Posts
October 19 2011 03:40 GMT
#234
On October 19 2011 12:21 GunPaladin wrote:
Glad to see da bears and incontrol settle things. ESEA has been the main source of esports competition for awhile now. Please don't just them based on a new game.

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stratmatt
Profile Joined April 2011
United States913 Posts
October 19 2011 04:15 GMT
#235
this thread may be done and resolved but....

incontrol, show some respect dude. da bears is an esports legend. straight up.
Superiorwolf
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States5509 Posts
October 19 2011 04:20 GMT
#236
da bears apologized and is committed to improving ESEA. I think only positive things can come out of this incident - ESEA will just get better. And kudos to da bears for having the guts to apologize and admit his mistakes. He will get better! We'll see the results this season And da bears, just know that if you ever need help, there are tons of people willing to help for free.
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Jebsauce
Profile Joined December 2010
United States8 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-19 11:09:15
October 19 2011 11:04 GMT
#237
I have played in ESEA for quite a while for counter strike source. It is the only league left for source and 1.6 in NA (I guess you can count cevo..lewls) and to be perfectly honest, it runs smooth. The match making works flawlessly, they have stat tracking for matches/pugs, instant hltv/STVs, down-loadable demos after the match, and good coverage. If you play either game then ESEA is quite good and reputable (seriously..80k twice a year give or take).

The BAD about esea. They have some really immature admins who are active community members. ESEA likes to hire their own friends and "known" long time community members. This is bad in a way because these admins can have their feelings hurt and decide to ban you from a PAID service. What does the owner do? Nothing. Oh, not to mention the owner "lpkane" is an 8 year old in a 27 year old body. If you have/had the pleasure of reading his comments on the ESEA forums (must have premium) you will see how much of a douche bag he is. He constantly bans people without reason, tells people to fuck off, calls people names, and constantly states he's the BOSS and can do what he wants. Oh and when people tell him to grow up and act professional he tells you to "make your own league and take me out of business". I find it disturbing that a guy like that who actually runs a good league has such a poor attitude. Makes you wonder if he's in it just for the money..because at 7.95 a month per person he makes a good profit (not to mention advertising, sponsorships, etc as addition income).

Next order of topic is SC2. Their league is pretty terrible for SC2. Their website isn't DESIGNED for sc2. All the "features" they have were developed for CS. Until they redesign part of their website to fit SC2 in it will not work properly. They lack experienced admins and are undermanned. I think they can become an outstanding league for SC2 in due time but until then you'll get a lot of suck (and you are paying for that suck).

Lastly I want to address the topic of incontrol. I always liked watching you play (even though you lose 95% of the time) and I think you are fairly good in front of a camera. However, you are very unprofessional for an "icon" in SC2 and as a member of a pro gaming team. I also think you try too hard to sound intelligent on the forums which makes you look like an immature egocentric. You need to practice on keeping silent. It helps in many ways.

MY ESEA profile ~ can see how long I've been playing their ugh http://esea.net/users/169810

EDIT: da_bears is a good guy. I'm sure he'll get the league up and running smoothly eventually. He was not one of the admins I was referring to.
4Kings
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States40 Posts
October 22 2011 14:31 GMT
#238
We noticed a schedule seems to be up that looks like this:

Four Kings Starcraft II Asso... Tal'darim Altar LE - - Nov 1, 8:00pm
CheckSix Gaming-SC2 Four Kings Tal'darim Altar LE - - Nov 3, 8:00pm
Its GoSu eSports Four Kings Crossfire SE - - Nov 8, 9:00pm
Four Kings Nightmares Crossfire SE - - Nov 10, 9:00pm
Four Kings vVv GamingSC2 MLG Metalopolis - - Nov 15, 9:00pm
Scampering CATS Four Kings MLG Metalopolis - - Nov 17, 9:00pm

Does this mean we can't schedule our own matches, and are expected to play at the designated times only? This is our first season, so I apologize if I misunderstood, but I thought there was scheduling options available. Please clarify!
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Killing
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada530 Posts
October 22 2011 14:46 GMT
#239
On October 22 2011 23:31 4Kings wrote:
We noticed a schedule seems to be up that looks like this:

Four Kings Starcraft II Asso... Tal'darim Altar LE - - Nov 1, 8:00pm
CheckSix Gaming-SC2 Four Kings Tal'darim Altar LE - - Nov 3, 8:00pm
Its GoSu eSports Four Kings Crossfire SE - - Nov 8, 9:00pm
Four Kings Nightmares Crossfire SE - - Nov 10, 9:00pm
Four Kings vVv GamingSC2 MLG Metalopolis - - Nov 15, 9:00pm
Scampering CATS Four Kings MLG Metalopolis - - Nov 17, 9:00pm

Does this mean we can't schedule our own matches, and are expected to play at the designated times only? This is our first season, so I apologize if I misunderstood, but I thought there was scheduling options available. Please clarify!


That's just a preview of your matches in the weeks to come. On the right is the default time for your matches, a week before that time, you'll be able to schedule them.
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
October 26 2011 07:11 GMT
#240
On October 22 2011 23:46 Killing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2011 23:31 4Kings wrote:
We noticed a schedule seems to be up that looks like this:

Four Kings Starcraft II Asso... Tal'darim Altar LE - - Nov 1, 8:00pm
CheckSix Gaming-SC2 Four Kings Tal'darim Altar LE - - Nov 3, 8:00pm
Its GoSu eSports Four Kings Crossfire SE - - Nov 8, 9:00pm
Four Kings Nightmares Crossfire SE - - Nov 10, 9:00pm
Four Kings vVv GamingSC2 MLG Metalopolis - - Nov 15, 9:00pm
Scampering CATS Four Kings MLG Metalopolis - - Nov 17, 9:00pm

Does this mean we can't schedule our own matches, and are expected to play at the designated times only? This is our first season, so I apologize if I misunderstood, but I thought there was scheduling options available. Please clarify!


That's just a preview of your matches in the weeks to come. On the right is the default time for your matches, a week before that time, you'll be able to schedule them.


Are there only 6 teams participating this season??
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