EPTI remember not too long ago he was on one of those MLG live broadcasts asking JP if he would rather be NesTea's mistress or his wife...?
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DeadCell
Canada256 Posts
I remember not too long ago he was on one of those MLG live broadcasts asking JP if he would rather be NesTea's mistress or his wife...? | ||
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usethis2
2164 Posts
On October 12 2011 12:48 wolfe wrote: Nestea was incredibly underwhelming. So was MVP. I dozed off while watching the VODs. For whatever reason their series lacked energy as well. | ||
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bentnormal
112 Posts
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Lann555
Netherlands5173 Posts
On October 12 2011 06:36 kiy0 wrote: I'm sick and tired of Tastosis. Really... It is the most annoying thing in the world. I've purchased every single ticket at GomTV and as GSL seasons go by it's getting harder and harder to tolerate Tastosis casting. It's not the game knowledge, not the game insights, not even the enthusiasm they bring to the table. It's simply because HALF of the time they are on live TV they're talking about puppies, pranks, movies, jokes, family stories, bla bla bla bla... This is simply pathetic. What would you feel if Marv Albert (the legendary NBA play-by-play commentator) did the same? Or Vin Scully from the Dodgers? Or pretty much any other cast from any serious sport? I really appreciate whenever they actually talk about the game, which at this point must be like 40% of the time they are not talking about a lollipop they tasted in high school. Another major issue is the fact that it is impossible to actually listen to a cast whenever NesTea is playing. On the last game of the series with MVP, they pure and simply were sad when they figured out NesTea was gonna lose. I'm OK with being a fan of a player over another, but casters have the rule of impartiality. That's not only unprofessional, it's disrespectful towards other players. I mentioned these same issues with IPL3 when PainUser went and said "This is what TheSTC needs to get back into this game" while he was 40 supply ahead over Stephano. And last but not least, Starcraft 2 is over a year old, and there are certain things casters need to be pretty carefull before spitting them off. For example, for the last 3 GSL casts, Ro16 Code S, Code A finals and Ro8 Code S, in every single one of them you heard them say (Either Tastosis, Wolf and Moletrap) "This was the most ********** I've ever seen!". You've seen probably thousands of games by now, and I get it's pretty tempting to say something that will get the viewers attention, but most of the time they're simply wrong and look dumb. Take Wolf's example, when he said "This is the most one sided GSL finals I've ever seen!". This just called for a facepalm. Don't get me wrong. I love e-Sports and I feel that correcting some of this issues as soon as possible is the only way "we" could be recognized all over the world and given more chances in national TV broadcasts and stuff. Haha, you took the words right out of my mouth. Feeling kind of the same by now. Doesn't help that 90% of the random banter is just repeat from earlier random banter. Always the same lame animal stories or discussions about oldschool RPG's. It often devolves into amateur comedy hour, with SC2 in the background | ||
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rareh
Portugal298 Posts
I guess people are still mad, cause they said 111 isn't overpowered and people are starting to make excuses they never made, instead of stating the true reason. | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16056 Posts
On October 12 2011 18:24 rareh wrote: Don't really get the sudden hate for tastosis, they always were like this even early in the gsl. I guess people are still mad, cause they said 111 isn't overpowered and people are starting to make excuses they never made, instead of stating the true reason. The phrase vocal minority comes to mind. | ||
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Tofugrinder
Austria899 Posts
to the mvp/nestea series: I felt the series was a bit underwhelming by both players. Of course they overall played really really good, but it was not the series I was hoping for. Both players made lots of smaller mistakes | ||
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Supamang
United States2298 Posts
On October 12 2011 18:24 rareh wrote: Don't really get the sudden hate for tastosis, they always were like this even early in the gsl. I guess people are still mad, cause they said 111 isn't overpowered and people are starting to make excuses they never made, instead of stating the true reason. I dont agree. In the beginning and early GSL, Tastosis was much more analytical about the games being played and about discussing how the metagame was during those periods. Their jokes were usually related to what was happening and their random banter didnt come out nearly as often. Im all for some random banter, its like for baseball somtimes. Right now, though, it seems at least half of what theyre saying is not related to the game at hand. I know they can still go back to how they were before, but right now it just seems that theyve gotten complacent. | ||
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TORTOISE
United States515 Posts
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kiy0
Portugal593 Posts
On October 12 2011 11:23 Vindicare605 wrote: I do care about the growth of e-sports but I think one of the easiest ways to discourage newcomers from watching is if we kill the fun of the broadcast with overly serious casters. With Tastetosis it feels like a little party whenever I watch them, if others that aren't as familiar with SC2 are watching they can be unfamiliar with the material yet still grasp the fun factor and enjoy it. New comers aren't going to care too much about the accuracies of the analysis because they don't know any better. First and foremost someone who's new to e-sports wants to be convinced that they're fun. Tastetosis delivers on that. It's only people who have been playing for as long as I have that care if there's any analysis on the side that's worth remembering. People who don't play the game don't care about the analysis, as long as everyone's understanding at least what's actually happening in the game I think the rest can be humor and we're fine. My overall point is that whether you're a veteran like me or a newcomer, Tastetosis delivers entertainment first and foremost. Their analysis is solid when it's present but it's not overbearing. I like their style, and my friends that don't watch much e-sports seem to enjoy them more than other casters but that could just be because I like them. Here we go again with the fun and serious talk... For some odd reason you can't seem to let this go. But I'll give it another try... I get that since you're a SC2 fan already you like Tastosis fail jokes. That's what being a fanboy is. That's your choice and your opinion. First of all, this doesn't necessarily mean you think they are funny. For the most part, you enjoy watching them beecause of the entertainment value. And second of all, Fun and entertainment are NOT the same thing. Plain and simply. This being said, attracting the "other" people to E-Sports requires that the content they expect to get when they tune in is actually the content they get for the most part. They don't seek fun, they seek entertainment and enjoyment. Sure having a couple of jokes once in a while goes a long way, take even some of Tastosis name-expression joke like, say, "I am happy to watch IMHappy playing today". No one is suggesting they should put on robot faces and simply talk in a rigid and totally emotionless manner. This is actually one of the hardest tasks of professional sports broadcasters. Find the right balance between analysis, play-by-play, informations, and whatever. And you can't seriously expect live TV producers to support casters that deliver half the amount of content they should get. Also, if you wanna talk professionalism, the concept "I don't care, I just like them" is good for fanboys, not the others. They go to live casts without being prepared (no background research on the players, no speech clarification) and therefore they feel the need to feel time with candy and zombie jokes. They're bias towards certain players (cof.. NesTea.. cof cof) and mindless bashers to others. They lack passion for the game, therefore the lack of preparation. When they are actually talking about the game, Tasteless is nothing more than Artosis poppy. He just says yes or "Oh Artosis you are soo smart!". Again, the "I don't care, I like them!" is not a valid counter argument here. Unless you're a fanboy. You might enjoy them, but you can't say they are the best, at least not in a professional conception. | ||
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Supamang
United States2298 Posts
On October 13 2011 00:51 TORTOISE wrote: Just like the vocal outspoken haters of Incontrol, the Tastosis haters are posting. I enjoy Tastosis and think they are much more entertaining than most english casters, but of course they could make improvements. were not haters, we just want to see them as they used to be. When they started the casting job for GOMtv, they treated it like a job and maintained professionalism much more. Now theyve gotten complacent and let themselves ramble a lot more. I dont want them to stop making jokes or random banter altogether, just have the ratio much more in favor of analytical SC2 related talk. You dont see sports casters talking about random stories like Tastosis because theyre casting professional sports and are expected to act as professional casters. If SC2 is just gonna be another one of those competitive games, then of course its whatever Tastosis wants to do. But if people expect SC2 to be taken seriously as a "sport" in any regard, people should also expect the casters to take it seriously as well. Its so fucking annoying when single-minded people treat any dissent as "haters" or some bullshit like that | ||
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LRObot
United States153 Posts
GOM is giving these guys a little too much leeway and it's pretty close to outright becoming the 'Tasteless & Artosis Show, with SC on the side.' | ||
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Lost--Soul
Netherlands23 Posts
I'm tuning in and paying money to see the best sc2 tournament in the world, not to listen to some guys talking about what they ate yesterday. | ||
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Darkren
Canada1841 Posts
Watching those games u could see how far ahead mvp/nestea are then supernova/ganzi. MVP is gonna have an easy ride to the finals if Ganzi plays like that versus him. | ||
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crocodile
United States615 Posts
To more reasonable gsl-watchers: I guarantee if tastosis did exactly what these guys said they'd complain about how tastosis isn't funny/doesn't mess around enough. Just ignore them. | ||
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kiy0
Portugal593 Posts
On October 14 2011 01:53 crocodile wrote: Its like you guys would rather have casters with no knowledge of the game who do a terrible job of entertaining or being funny (moletrap). Tastosis is the best and you guys are just the kind of people who complain no matter what. To more reasonable gsl-watchers: I guarantee if tastosis did exactly what these guys said they'd complain about how tastosis isn't funny/doesn't mess around enough. Just ignore them. Way to write 100 words and don't expose a single argument about what so ever. That's exactly what a forum is about. To bash on opinions you don't agree with and don't justify your position. /facepalm At no point anyone ever wished for any of what you said. It's like you didn't even read o.0 | ||
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kota
Denmark84 Posts
On October 11 2011 19:59 brotlov wrote: Why on earth does the GSL have the 1st and 2nd ranked players playing each other in the ro8? Shouldn't it be set up so that the players who are ranked 1 and 2 are in opposite sides of the bracket? +1 Couldnt agree with this more | ||
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Nate.F
918 Posts
1st & 2nd ranked players do not always end up finalists. The level of domination that would be required to be Flash-Jaedong-esque for that to happen. If they are finalists of from the previous season, they will end up in the opposite side of the brackets. People do improve, and therefore there isn't an eternal number 1. | ||
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EricCartman
Canada306 Posts
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Slangen
Sweden1166 Posts
On October 19 2011 23:40 EricCartman wrote: tastosis are kinda getting cocky with their position in sc2. If they dont keep it in check, they'll soon be dealing with alot more frustrated people. still better than moletrap+x though! I have no idea what you getting at. | ||
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