[GSL] Oct Code S RO32 Day 3 - Page 111

On September 28 2011 02:16 CruelZeratul wrote:


Where exactly doesn building units from one building and just building few buildings overall have a higher skill ceiling than Terran econ/macro?

Overall I think hai2u is right, Terran scales best, because u can micro neraly every unit very effective and have a ton of harassment options.

On September 28 2011 03:50 usethis2 wrote:

Edit: Is there any Protoss confirmed in RO16 at all? I know Killer hasn't played yet.

On September 27 2011 22:10 sleepingdog wrote:
at this point I honestly don't know why korean protoss players keep going chargelot/archon vs terran - what is it that I'm missing?

even if colossi are vulnerable, there's still a higher chance to transition into 3rd base + templar-tech-switch than other way round; going late colossi almost never works because you just can't get the numbers...templar, on the other hand, can be warped in by a bunch once the tech is done

even the double forge mass-upgrade-style seemed more viable, since it could afford to throw away tons of chargelots while saving the stalkers with blink.....

On September 28 2011 03:57 Batdad wrote:


Not only are there no toss in RO16, but so far HuK is the only toss in code S to avoid the up and downs. Killer is the last chance and he's in a group with 2 terrans and DRG, so he's in tough.

On September 28 2011 04:02 darmousseh wrote:



Most games involving mass collosus come down to a single engagement. If the collosus survive, protoss wins. If the collosus die, the opponent wins. With templar there is always a chance you can come back since you can mass produce them from gateways. If you go collosus tech, you have to slowly build collosus again while completely losing map control. Also, big maps are really bad for collosus since they do well in chokes. The GSL maps are really big compared to what they used to be.

In short though, mass collosus is too risky, too easily scoutable, and too easily counterable.


Actually thinking about it further, the nerf to KA affected this quite a bit.
In the past, you could go mass collosus and get storm/KA so that once all your collosus die, you can replace them with templar. Templar were also used for defensive purposes. Without defensive templar, it's even riskier to leave your base with your ball.

On September 28 2011 03:11 Kazeyonoma wrote:
metagame shifts are always what leads the major swings in the gameplay. look at scbw. people constantly crying for blizz to fix things gets annoying. maps can fix issues, meta game can fix it. strategies, etc. it's just bs that ONE tournament goes out and suddenly "ZOMG BLIZZ FIX PRZ". Code A is a testament to Protoss doing okay. The protosses that lost last night, played TERRIBLY. Genius had some moments of amazing gameplay and game sense, and made it look like he was going to win. THEN engaged in a TERRIBLE concave and didn't get his zealots engaged, and lost his entire army, as well as dropping all of his templars in a clump to just get chain emp'd. He had the right strategy in mind, he just executed poorly. Protoss players should watch that vod, and see what he did, and improve upon it. why drop the storm RIGHT there? Why not have them more on the side where they'd have a more strategic advantage terrain wise, or d click drop so they drop in a line instead of 1 in spot. I know protoss aren't used to using drop ships like terrans are but once they learn, it'll be a potent tool.

Warp Prisms currently can fly right over a turret/spore and still survive.... ABUSE THIS.

On September 28 2011 04:03 VirgilSC2 wrote:

HuK confirmed for current best Protoss in the world? Now we know we're in deep.

On September 28 2011 03:58 s3183529 wrote:
I would eliminate blink stalkers and colossus, bring back dragoon and reaver, much better combination.

On September 27 2011 21:28 Brainiac wrote:


Yeah, we love Zerg players opinions' about a matchup they have no idea about

On September 28 2011 04:25 HinagikUx wrote:


im pretty sure DRG knows more about the MU than you, even though he doesnt play it.

On September 28 2011 04:17 Olinim wrote:

All Code A is a testament to is that if Protoss players try REALLY hard, maybe they can beat some mediocre Code A zergs. Too bad in Code S, where it actually matters, they can't even win a game. Also, if you hold any delusions about Sage or JYP doing any better in Code S I don't know what to say. There are tons Terran players also played horribly, Virus vs Huk, how many times did he get supply blocked? I'm sure I could find tons of a mistakes that they made, or Terrans that are much worse than Protoss that have fallen. The difference? Well I think that's obvious at this point.

On September 28 2011 04:23 mrtomjones wrote:

reavers were awful -_-