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Aotearoa39261 Posts
On September 27 2011 14:40 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2011 14:05 MadNeSs wrote:On September 27 2011 11:59 Shinta) wrote:On September 27 2011 09:54 MadNeSs wrote:
Why are they allowed to hold a sc2 tourney in Korea? I thought only gom was allowed to host tournatments in Korea. GOMTV is a TV organization. They can be looked at as a TV station. Any event that they have is an event that is broadcasted on their TV platform. KeSPA is an eSports organization. Unlike most countries which support several eSports organizations, Korea (before SC2) only supports KeSPA, and KeSPA supports the teams etc which all are property of KeSPA. Anything that is eSports is KeSPA. Tournaments such as IeSF look for organizations within the country they are hosting it in to perform host duties for them, since they are less of tournament administrators and more tournament organizers. If it were to be in USA, they'd find an organization to host it there, if it was Singapore they'd find an organization to host it there. KeSPA owns every single eSports title in Korea except for SC2, and is by far the greatest recognized eSports organization in Korea, thus IeSF turned to them to host the tourny for them. IeSF says "bw sucks, no bw, sc2 instead" KeSPA says "fine, but I ain't letting none of them Korean asshole traitors take any o' 'dis prize moneh~!" and bans Koreans from playing sc2. Reasons for KeSPA screwing over Korean SC2 players? Simple... Those Korean SC2 players left KeSPA to support the 1 main eSports title the KeSPA doesn't support. In a relatively small way, this is REVENGE RAWR OMG. Because KeSPA is run by a bunch of kids who have no idea how to do anything (nah they are pretty good at what they do, they are just fucking idiots with no morality). And thus, I hope they, in some way or another, lose everything that they own and be left with nothing. Because they are pieces of shit and should be treated like trash. ^______________^ I see thanks. This was alle I wanted to know  . Ahah good explanation. ^____^ I wonder if SC2 Association didn't die yet, if lesf would have contacted them instead. I don't think this is accurate. For starters, IeSF has KeSPA origins 
On September 27 2011 11:03 Milkis wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2011 10:07 wassbix wrote:On September 27 2011 10:00 emc wrote:
makes sense because KeSPA hasn't been involved with SC2 at all. Why wouldn't IeSF go to GOM? Clearly GSL is the tournament in korea so it would only make sense to choose a representative who has the highest points in GSL.
I don't know all the details but if KeSPA HAD to be involved then why wouldn't they choose BW for their game instead of SC2? None of this makes much sense except that KeSPA is trying to hurt the SC2 community on purpose to promote BW, which would be the stupidest thing they could do. Cause there are 4 games, and almost every competitive game has registered pros under Kespa (including the 3 other games hosted in IeSF, except SC2) So its obvious why IeSF went to Kespa to pick its Rep for this event. kespa kind of funds iesf and founded iesf, are you surprised?
If anything, this is an anti-gom move on KeSPA part seeing as they permitted sc2 to be played in the first place.
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Kespa really sucks,composed of incompetent 60 year olds that only care about their money.
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On September 27 2011 14:45 Plexa wrote:
If anything, this is an anti-gom move on KeSPA part seeing as they permitted sc2 to be played in the first place.
Interesting point. I don't think it's fair to go on a kespa hate parade when A-B is partly to blame as well. Anyone seriously interested should read about the whole broadcasting rights slap fight; Both sides have a lot of bad blood.
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so this is like the NASL? oh wait....
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So is it only koreans with progamer license can participate? lolololol XD
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I don't see What the big fuss is all about. It's a small silly tournament that consists mostly of low level semi-pro players. If there actually was a korean player there it would just ruin all the tension since they could probably win it playing with one hand.
 Deathfate? Orly? Ciara, Osho, DeathAngel, Revenant, biGs,  monchi, Ball, Zeal? This is hardly a top level line-up.
Besides that, the prize distribution is absolutely retarded. All the prize money goes to the combined #1 #2 and #3 of the SC2+FIFA tournament. A player could go undefeated through the entire starcraft tournament and still end up with 3rd prize >_<
Oh and IPL3 is on the same date. Yeah, no one is gonna watch this, koreans or not. I can definitly understand why KeSPA isn't bothering sending anyone...
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If only player with a progaming license are allowed to participate just send Flash in then? Should be awesome to watch how he destroys mediocre foreigner in a game he has never played before
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On September 27 2011 15:31 Benga wrote:
Kespa really sucks,composed of incompetent 60 year olds that only care about their money.
no kidding. so embarassing 
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This tournament is a complete joke, move along, nothing to see here.
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Looks like Sjow, Idra and Goody can expect a nice payday next month.
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On September 27 2011 14:45 Plexa wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2011 14:40 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:On September 27 2011 14:05 MadNeSs wrote:On September 27 2011 11:59 Shinta) wrote:On September 27 2011 09:54 MadNeSs wrote:
Why are they allowed to hold a sc2 tourney in Korea? I thought only gom was allowed to host tournatments in Korea. GOMTV is a TV organization. They can be looked at as a TV station. Any event that they have is an event that is broadcasted on their TV platform. KeSPA is an eSports organization. Unlike most countries which support several eSports organizations, Korea (before SC2) only supports KeSPA, and KeSPA supports the teams etc which all are property of KeSPA. Anything that is eSports is KeSPA. Tournaments such as IeSF look for organizations within the country they are hosting it in to perform host duties for them, since they are less of tournament administrators and more tournament organizers. If it were to be in USA, they'd find an organization to host it there, if it was Singapore they'd find an organization to host it there. KeSPA owns every single eSports title in Korea except for SC2, and is by far the greatest recognized eSports organization in Korea, thus IeSF turned to them to host the tourny for them. IeSF says "bw sucks, no bw, sc2 instead" KeSPA says "fine, but I ain't letting none of them Korean asshole traitors take any o' 'dis prize moneh~!" and bans Koreans from playing sc2. Reasons for KeSPA screwing over Korean SC2 players? Simple... Those Korean SC2 players left KeSPA to support the 1 main eSports title the KeSPA doesn't support. In a relatively small way, this is REVENGE RAWR OMG. Because KeSPA is run by a bunch of kids who have no idea how to do anything (nah they are pretty good at what they do, they are just fucking idiots with no morality). And thus, I hope they, in some way or another, lose everything that they own and be left with nothing. Because they are pieces of shit and should be treated like trash. ^______________^ I see thanks. This was alle I wanted to know . Ahah good explanation. ^____^ I wonder if SC2 Association didn't die yet, if lesf would have contacted them instead. I don't think this is accurate. For starters, IeSF has KeSPA origins Show nested quote +On September 27 2011 11:03 Milkis wrote:On September 27 2011 10:07 wassbix wrote:On September 27 2011 10:00 emc wrote:
makes sense because KeSPA hasn't been involved with SC2 at all. Why wouldn't IeSF go to GOM? Clearly GSL is the tournament in korea so it would only make sense to choose a representative who has the highest points in GSL.
I don't know all the details but if KeSPA HAD to be involved then why wouldn't they choose BW for their game instead of SC2? None of this makes much sense except that KeSPA is trying to hurt the SC2 community on purpose to promote BW, which would be the stupidest thing they could do. Cause there are 4 games, and almost every competitive game has registered pros under Kespa (including the 3 other games hosted in IeSF, except SC2) So its obvious why IeSF went to Kespa to pick its Rep for this event. kespa kind of funds iesf and founded iesf, are you surprised? If anything, this is an anti-gom move on KeSPA part seeing as they permitted sc2 to be played in the first place. More like other participating countries didnt want to send BW players. So we either have IeSF BW with only koreans or IeSF sc2 without koreans
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On September 27 2011 16:06 Vorenius wrote:I don't see What the big fuss is all about. It's a small silly tournament that consists mostly of low level semi-pro players. If there actually was a korean player there it would just ruin all the tension since they could probably win it playing with one hand. Deathfate? Orly? Ciara, Osho, DeathAngel, Revenant, biGs, monchi, Ball, Zeal? This is hardly a top level line-up. Besides that, the prize distribution is absolutely retarded. All the prize money goes to the combined #1 #2 and #3 of the SC2+FIFA tournament. A player could go undefeated through the entire starcraft tournament and still end up with 3rd prize >_< Oh and IPL3 is on the same date. Yeah, no one is gonna watch this, koreans or not. I can definitly understand why KeSPA isn't bothering sending anyone...
they pay everything to the players and ye ill watch it and all player you said are good to me so dunno what you talking about :p
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Kespa extends it's long hand to sc2. How does that feel bw haters?
User was warned for this post
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On September 27 2011 16:06 Vorenius wrote:I don't see What the big fuss is all about. It's a small silly tournament that consists mostly of low level semi-pro players. If there actually was a korean player there it would just ruin all the tension since they could probably win it playing with one hand. Deathfate? Orly? Ciara, Osho, DeathAngel, Revenant, biGs, monchi, Ball, Zeal? This is hardly a top level line-up. Besides that, the prize distribution is absolutely retarded. All the prize money goes to the combined #1 #2 and #3 of the SC2+FIFA tournament. A player could go undefeated through the entire starcraft tournament and still end up with 3rd prize >_< Oh and IPL3 is on the same date. Yeah, no one is gonna watch this, koreans or not. I can definitly understand why KeSPA isn't bothering sending anyone...
Osho has been doing quite hot lately (in online cups atleast, i remember him owning it up at the first DH or something too). So has monchi.
I disagree about no one will be watching this. I probably might tune in, isn't IPL always LIVE on inhuman times for europeans? I don't watch restreams, thus have almost never watched IPL except for result. Probably am not alone here.
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On September 27 2011 16:06 Vorenius wrote:I don't see What the big fuss is all about. It's a small silly tournament that consists mostly of low level semi-pro players. If there actually was a korean player there it would just ruin all the tension since they could probably win it playing with one hand. Deathfate? Orly? Ciara, Osho, DeathAngel, Revenant, biGs, monchi, Ball, Zeal? This is hardly a top level line-up. Besides that, the prize distribution is absolutely retarded. All the prize money goes to the combined #1 #2 and #3 of the SC2+FIFA tournament. A player could go undefeated through the entire starcraft tournament and still end up with 3rd prize >_< Oh and IPL3 is on the same date. Yeah, no one is gonna watch this, koreans or not. I can definitly understand why KeSPA isn't bothering sending anyone...
Monchi almost beat dimaga in a bo5 yesterday, ciara had a good showing in TSL3, osho plays in the beastly team acer, ball is actually softball who plays in NASL and elfi has been very successful in the European internet cups. I'll be watching this tournament for sure so I can see these very good players.
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On September 27 2011 14:45 Plexa wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2011 14:40 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:On September 27 2011 14:05 MadNeSs wrote:On September 27 2011 11:59 Shinta) wrote:On September 27 2011 09:54 MadNeSs wrote:
Why are they allowed to hold a sc2 tourney in Korea? I thought only gom was allowed to host tournatments in Korea. GOMTV is a TV organization. They can be looked at as a TV station. Any event that they have is an event that is broadcasted on their TV platform. KeSPA is an eSports organization. Unlike most countries which support several eSports organizations, Korea (before SC2) only supports KeSPA, and KeSPA supports the teams etc which all are property of KeSPA. Anything that is eSports is KeSPA. Tournaments such as IeSF look for organizations within the country they are hosting it in to perform host duties for them, since they are less of tournament administrators and more tournament organizers. If it were to be in USA, they'd find an organization to host it there, if it was Singapore they'd find an organization to host it there. KeSPA owns every single eSports title in Korea except for SC2, and is by far the greatest recognized eSports organization in Korea, thus IeSF turned to them to host the tourny for them. IeSF says "bw sucks, no bw, sc2 instead" KeSPA says "fine, but I ain't letting none of them Korean asshole traitors take any o' 'dis prize moneh~!" and bans Koreans from playing sc2. Reasons for KeSPA screwing over Korean SC2 players? Simple... Those Korean SC2 players left KeSPA to support the 1 main eSports title the KeSPA doesn't support. In a relatively small way, this is REVENGE RAWR OMG. Because KeSPA is run by a bunch of kids who have no idea how to do anything (nah they are pretty good at what they do, they are just fucking idiots with no morality). And thus, I hope they, in some way or another, lose everything that they own and be left with nothing. Because they are pieces of shit and should be treated like trash. ^______________^ I see thanks. This was alle I wanted to know . Ahah good explanation. ^____^ I wonder if SC2 Association didn't die yet, if lesf would have contacted them instead. I don't think this is accurate. For starters, IeSF has KeSPA origins Show nested quote +On September 27 2011 11:03 Milkis wrote:On September 27 2011 10:07 wassbix wrote:On September 27 2011 10:00 emc wrote:
makes sense because KeSPA hasn't been involved with SC2 at all. Why wouldn't IeSF go to GOM? Clearly GSL is the tournament in korea so it would only make sense to choose a representative who has the highest points in GSL.
I don't know all the details but if KeSPA HAD to be involved then why wouldn't they choose BW for their game instead of SC2? None of this makes much sense except that KeSPA is trying to hurt the SC2 community on purpose to promote BW, which would be the stupidest thing they could do. Cause there are 4 games, and almost every competitive game has registered pros under Kespa (including the 3 other games hosted in IeSF, except SC2) So its obvious why IeSF went to Kespa to pick its Rep for this event. kespa kind of funds iesf and founded iesf, are you surprised? If anything, this is an anti-gom move on KeSPA part seeing as they permitted sc2 to be played in the first place.
Maybe cause other countries didn't want to send players for BW (lets face it. Its basically dead in western e-sports). So we either have IeSF with BW but no foreginers playing or IeSF with SC2 with no koreans. And yeah. I too think that its cause of the gom - kespa war.
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On September 27 2011 19:00 archonOOid wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On September 27 2011 16:06 Vorenius wrote:I don't see What the big fuss is all about. It's a small silly tournament that consists mostly of low level semi-pro players. If there actually was a korean player there it would just ruin all the tension since they could probably win it playing with one hand. Deathfate? Orly? Ciara, Osho, DeathAngel, Revenant, biGs, monchi, Ball, Zeal? This is hardly a top level line-up. Besides that, the prize distribution is absolutely retarded. All the prize money goes to the combined #1 #2 and #3 of the SC2+FIFA tournament. A player could go undefeated through the entire starcraft tournament and still end up with 3rd prize >_< Oh and IPL3 is on the same date. Yeah, no one is gonna watch this, koreans or not. I can definitly understand why KeSPA isn't bothering sending anyone... Monchi almost beat dimaga in a bo5 yesterday, ciara had a good showing in TSL3, osho plays in the beastly team acer, ball is actually softball who plays in NASL and elfi has been very successful in the European internet cups. I'll be watching this tournament for sure so I can see these very good players.
How can you say that Ciara had a showing in TSL3?
He got destroyed by MC.
MC almost killed him with like 1 voidray on tal'darim.
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LOL :D
KEPSA being KESPA :D
That's as fuck ass dumb shit as it gets. Can't they just borrow a look into GSL standings and pick 2-3 names out of the top 10 list there ? Or just look at the korean ladder and pick 2-3 names from the top 10 ?
How fucking hard it can be ???
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On September 27 2011 19:24 speedphlux wrote:
LOL :D
KEPSA being KESPA :D
That's as fuck ass dumb shit as it gets. Can't they just borrow a look into GSL standings and pick 2-3 names out of the top 10 list there ? Or just look at the korean ladder and pick 2-3 names from the top 10 ?
How fucking hard it can be ???
No, because the guys that play sc2 in Korea don't have progaming licences because they are not under Kespa rule, thus they can't compete in Kespa organised tourneys.
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EPT
