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On September 27 2011 19:24 speedphlux wrote:
LOL :D
KEPSA being KESPA :D
That's as fuck ass dumb shit as it gets. Can't they just borrow a look into GSL standings and pick 2-3 names out of the top 10 list there ? Or just look at the korean ladder and pick 2-3 names from the top 10 ?
How fucking hard it can be ???
It's not their business. You don't expect Microsoft to make fast food, you cannot expect Kespa to do Sc2 stuffs. They have 0 business in SC2.
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On September 27 2011 19:46 kamikami wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2011 19:24 speedphlux wrote:
LOL :D
KEPSA being KESPA :D
That's as fuck ass dumb shit as it gets. Can't they just borrow a look into GSL standings and pick 2-3 names out of the top 10 list there ? Or just look at the korean ladder and pick 2-3 names from the top 10 ?
How fucking hard it can be ??? It's not their business. You don't expect Microsoft to make fast food, you cannot expect Kespa to do Sc2 stuffs. They have 0 business in SC2.
If Microsoft had the responsibility to feed its customers, then they would at least outsource that shit to Mcdonalds or Burger King if they can't make the food themselves. Just flat out letting them starve because 'it's not our business' is being stubborn and petty. Also, how is shitting on the current korean SC2 scene going to help them in the long run? All they had to do was make one phone call to Gom and ask them to handle it. Is that so hard? I guess they have too much useless pride for that.
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On September 27 2011 19:53 Telcontar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2011 19:46 kamikami wrote:On September 27 2011 19:24 speedphlux wrote:
LOL :D
KEPSA being KESPA :D
That's as fuck ass dumb shit as it gets. Can't they just borrow a look into GSL standings and pick 2-3 names out of the top 10 list there ? Or just look at the korean ladder and pick 2-3 names from the top 10 ?
How fucking hard it can be ??? It's not their business. You don't expect Microsoft to make fast food, you cannot expect Kespa to do Sc2 stuffs. They have 0 business in SC2. If Microsoft had the responsibility to feed its customers, then they would at least outsource that shit to Mcdonalds or Burger King if they can't make the food themselves.
They don't have that responsibility, neither does Kespa. I work in a company that makes test machine and if someone asks my boss to make fast food the anwser is an absolute "no" no matter the situation. That's how business operate. Kespa cannot decide which organization will choose the players for them too, they don't have the right to do so. Only IeSF has that right.
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On September 27 2011 01:38 GTR wrote:
how ironic that a starcraft tournament in korea will be won by a non-korean.
hahaha truuuue.
this is so stupid.....
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On September 27 2011 19:46 kamikami wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2011 19:24 speedphlux wrote:
LOL :D
KEPSA being KESPA :D
That's as fuck ass dumb shit as it gets. Can't they just borrow a look into GSL standings and pick 2-3 names out of the top 10 list there ? Or just look at the korean ladder and pick 2-3 names from the top 10 ?
How fucking hard it can be ??? It's not their business. You don't expect Microsoft to make fast food, you cannot expect Kespa to do Sc2 stuffs. They have 0 business in SC2.
Fail analogy is fail. Both BW and SC2 both share a common genre - computer games. Microsoft is a software company. Fast food is physical food and completely unrelated to software.
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On September 27 2011 20:30 var username wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2011 19:46 kamikami wrote:On September 27 2011 19:24 speedphlux wrote:
LOL :D
KEPSA being KESPA :D
That's as fuck ass dumb shit as it gets. Can't they just borrow a look into GSL standings and pick 2-3 names out of the top 10 list there ? Or just look at the korean ladder and pick 2-3 names from the top 10 ?
How fucking hard it can be ??? It's not their business. You don't expect Microsoft to make fast food, you cannot expect Kespa to do Sc2 stuffs. They have 0 business in SC2. Fail analogy is fail. Both BW and SC2 both share a common genre - computer games. Microsoft is a software company. Fast food is physical food and completely unrelated to software.
Related or not, it's still not their business lol. They are not supposed to "choose" SC2 players for tournament, Valve is not supposed to do starcraft stuffs, Blizzard is not supposed to do half-life stuffs. Common genre or not doesn't matter.
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On September 27 2011 19:47 attentioN. wrote:
Kespa being Kespa...
You mean by protecting their staked interest in the Brood War scene?
Kespa may be pulling a dick move here, but it's because their business is Brood War, and supporting SC2 is direct competition to that motive. By not selecting a Korean SC2 representative, they likely turn off Korean viewership to an SC2 event and lessen the odds of more people jumping ship from viewing BW to SC2, thus keeping interest in BW.
Or at least in theory.
E: Also, if the roles had been reversed, and GOM had to choose a representative for a BW tournament, do you think the outcome would have been any different? (Hint: It's unlikely)
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Hmm I guess it's true that it's not their business. It is a company after all. I do however think gom would do it different but maybe that's just naive.
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I don't think I understand the polotics of Korean progamming very well... Why is KeSPA able to block the participation of any Korean player? Are they all contractually obligated to do what KeSPA tells them? I'm sure there are pleanty of Koreans who would like to participate.
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KeSPA shenanigans, as usual with them. :p
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On September 27 2011 19:00 archonOOid wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2011 16:06 Vorenius wrote:I don't see What the big fuss is all about. It's a small silly tournament that consists mostly of low level semi-pro players. If there actually was a korean player there it would just ruin all the tension since they could probably win it playing with one hand.  Deathfate? Orly? Ciara, Osho, DeathAngel, Revenant, biGs,  monchi, Ball, Zeal? This is hardly a top level line-up. Besides that, the prize distribution is absolutely retarded. All the prize money goes to the combined #1 #2 and #3 of the SC2+FIFA tournament. A player could go undefeated through the entire starcraft tournament and still end up with 3rd prize >_< Oh and IPL3 is on the same date. Yeah, no one is gonna watch this, koreans or not. I can definitly understand why KeSPA isn't bothering sending anyone... Monchi almost beat dimaga in a bo5 yesterday, ciara had a good showing in TSL3, osho plays in the beastly team acer, ball is actually softball who plays in NASL and elfi has been very successful in the European internet cups. I'll be watching this tournament for sure so I can see these very good players.
Monchi's achievement is losing to Dimaga? Ciara made it to TSL Ro32... where he died when MC 3gate expoed and rallied some units to his base. :/ Softball's most notable accomplishment is lending Sen his account, yeah he got invited to NASL, and he's 0-2 so far.
Don't get me wrong these are all good players in their own right, but they are no where near capable of winning big tournaments. Or rather, they wouldn't be if it wasn't only them competing. You can't deny it's pretty easy to name at least 50, if not 100, better players than the majority of player competing in IeSF.
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this kind of hate between sc:bw and sc2 is just silly. i just feel sad that players who would like to take the challange cant be part of it. Sad day for esport, sad day for competition and ofc...after reading so much comments...sad for TL-Community.
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On September 27 2011 20:49 kamikami wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2011 20:30 var username wrote:On September 27 2011 19:46 kamikami wrote:On September 27 2011 19:24 speedphlux wrote:
LOL :D
KEPSA being KESPA :D
That's as fuck ass dumb shit as it gets. Can't they just borrow a look into GSL standings and pick 2-3 names out of the top 10 list there ? Or just look at the korean ladder and pick 2-3 names from the top 10 ?
How fucking hard it can be ??? It's not their business. You don't expect Microsoft to make fast food, you cannot expect Kespa to do Sc2 stuffs. They have 0 business in SC2. Fail analogy is fail. Both BW and SC2 both share a common genre - computer games. Microsoft is a software company. Fast food is physical food and completely unrelated to software. Related or not, it's still not their business lol. They are not supposed to "choose" SC2 players for tournament, Valve is not supposed to do starcraft stuffs, Blizzard is not supposed to do half-life stuffs. Common genre or not doesn't matter.
The point here is that they DO have the responsibility of choosing the Korean SC2 players. So how is just flat out not choosing anyone better than passing the duty off to someone who runs the only league in Korea? You guys are being too rigid with this 'it's not in Kespa's scope so they're perfectly entitled' argument. Whether it's technically within their rights or not is not the issue. It's the fact that they're completely refusing to deal with the existing korean SC2 scene when it's easy to do so.
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On September 27 2011 21:25 gentix wrote:
I don't think I understand the polotics of Korean progamming very well... Why is KeSPA able to block the participation of any Korean player? Are they all contractually obligated to do what KeSPA tells them? I'm sure there are pleanty of Koreans who would like to participate.
I believe its the reverse actually. SC2 progamers are not under Kespa jurisdiction, do not have progamer licenses (and thus are not pro's but thats just semantics) so Kespa cannot just go and say hey Iron, Zergbong, MVP you guys are our Korean reps for IEF.
@Telcontar
The issue is, officially there are no Korean SC2 progamers to choose ^^
Just as Microsoft does not have burgers in their assembly lines?
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On September 27 2011 19:46 kamikami wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2011 19:24 speedphlux wrote:
LOL :D
KEPSA being KESPA :D
That's as fuck ass dumb shit as it gets. Can't they just borrow a look into GSL standings and pick 2-3 names out of the top 10 list there ? Or just look at the korean ladder and pick 2-3 names from the top 10 ?
How fucking hard it can be ??? It's not their business. You don't expect Microsoft to make fast food, you cannot expect Kespa to do Sc2 stuffs. They have 0 business in SC2.
its more like you asking your boss at microsoft where you should eat fast food tonight. takes 5 seconds to pick
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TLDR: Kespa is mad as shit.
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Someone needs to bring Milkis's post to the OP so people can read it and stop bashing KeSPA.
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