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[IeSF] No Korean SC2 player allowed in IeSF 2011 - Page 20

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BaekHo
Profile Joined July 2010
Korea (South)153 Posts
September 27 2011 18:44 GMT
#381
will I get warn for cursing? fucking kespa srsly. Im so embarrassed by their ridiculous actions.

They are ruining everything esports in korea.
Sejanus
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Lithuania550 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-27 18:51:24
September 27 2011 18:50 GMT
#382
Starcraft 2 vs Broodwar fights stopped being merely silly. Now they are getting increasingly retarded.
Friends don't let friends massacre civilians
Azriel
Profile Joined December 2010
Mexico462 Posts
September 27 2011 19:02 GMT
#383
What happens if they label SC2 an exhibition title, anyway? if they still hold the tournament it makes little difference, doesn't it? or does it mean they might cancel the SC2 tournament?
KoichiroDK
Profile Joined September 2011
Denmark16 Posts
September 27 2011 19:33 GMT
#384
HOLD THE PRESS FOR ONE SECOND...

...and get the facts straight to why this has happened.

The IeSF stands for "International eSport Association" an is the eSport equaliant to FIFA. Yes the IeSF is not famous like WCG or MLG etc, but it takes time to build a world association with hundreds of national federations, that works as one big democracy.

The members of IeSF are national federations like eSport Danmark (Denmark), SESF (Sweden), SVÖE (austria), Mindsports South Africa etc. There are 25 members AFAIK.

The IeSF 2011 World Championship is the worldcup for its member countries. Through member democracy 3 games has been choosen as official games: FIFA, AVA and SCII. For the IeSF 2011 World Championship each country will be represented by one player in FIFA and SCII, while AVA teams were found in a qualification. ex. Germany and Holland came one and two in the Euro Qualification.

So why is KeSPA involved with IeSF?

KeSPA is the korean eSport federation and they took the initiative to start IeSF back in 2007. Thus KeSPA is the korean member in IeSF. Just like BESF is the belgium member and so on.

It is up to each member nation whether or not they want to compete in the competitions held at the IeSF 2011 World Championships. This also happened in 2010 where some contries decided not to compete in WCIII.
In this case - KeSPA - as the Korean member of IeSF - has decided not to compete in SCII for reason know perhaps only to KeSPA, but yes - it is probably because they wont regonize SCII due to their dispute with Blizzard, but that is a whole other discussion we shouldnt get into here.

So there you have it. That is the fact to why no korean players can participate in IeSF 2011 World Championship.

Cheers
KoichiroDK
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
September 27 2011 19:37 GMT
#385
On September 28 2011 04:33 KoichiroDK wrote:
HOLD THE PRESS FOR ONE SECOND...

...and get the facts straight to why this has happened.

The IeSF stands for "International eSport Association" an is the eSport equaliant to FIFA. Yes the IeSF is not famous like WCG or MLG etc, but it takes time to build a world association with hundreds of national federations, that works as one big democracy.

The members of IeSF are national federations like eSport Danmark (Denmark), SESF (Sweden), SVÖE (austria), Mindsports South Africa etc. There are 25 members AFAIK.

The IeSF 2011 World Championship is the worldcup for its member countries. Through member democracy 3 games has been choosen as official games: FIFA, AVA and SCII. For the IeSF 2011 World Championship each country will be represented by one player in FIFA and SCII, while AVA teams were found in a qualification. ex. Germany and Holland came one and two in the Euro Qualification.

So why is KeSPA involved with IeSF?

KeSPA is the korean eSport federation and they took the initiative to start IeSF back in 2007. Thus KeSPA is the korean member in IeSF. Just like BESF is the belgium member and so on.

It is up to each member nation whether or not they want to compete in the competitions held at the IeSF 2011 World Championships. This also happened in 2010 where some contries decided not to compete in WCIII.
In this case - KeSPA - as the Korean member of IeSF - has decided not to compete in SCII for reason know perhaps only to KeSPA, but yes - it is probably because they wont regonize SCII due to their dispute with Blizzard, but that is a whole other discussion we shouldnt get into here.

So there you have it. That is the fact to why no korean players can participate in IeSF 2011 World Championship.

Cheers
KoichiroDK


I mean that whole post is fine and dandy, but let's just point out that KeSPA and Blizz solved their dispute last I heard......
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
KoichiroDK
Profile Joined September 2011
Denmark16 Posts
September 27 2011 19:45 GMT
#386
On September 28 2011 04:37 Diamond wrote:
I mean that whole post is fine and dandy, but let's just point out that KeSPA and Blizz solved their dispute last I heard......


Only for BW AFAIK.
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
September 27 2011 20:50 GMT
#387
IeSF should've talked with gom regarding a Korean representative for sc2 (and let Kespa determine the representatives of the other games), instead of just concentrate on Kespa only. The whole situation is so ridiculous, yet I can't even laugh about it. :-/
ePAttack
Profile Joined September 2010
United States112 Posts
September 27 2011 21:21 GMT
#388
Wouldn't this be considered discrimination?

Is it me or does this look like a type of racism or stereotype? reason to ban somebody because of there ethnicity is kinda harsh.

It's not like ALL Koreans are amazing SC players like MVP or Nestea.
StimiLant
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States534 Posts
September 27 2011 21:22 GMT
#389
plz make new sc2con not kespa ='[
NNTP
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada47 Posts
September 27 2011 21:42 GMT
#390
On September 28 2011 06:21 ePAttack wrote:
Wouldn't this be considered discrimination?

Is it me or does this look like a type of racism or stereotype? reason to ban somebody because of there ethnicity is kinda harsh.

It's not like ALL Koreans are amazing SC players like MVP or Nestea.



this has nothing to do with racial discrimination because it is the korean federation itself that chose not to participate. it has more to do with it's issues with Blizzard itself.
Armathai
Profile Joined October 2007
1023 Posts
September 27 2011 22:31 GMT
#391
On September 28 2011 04:33 KoichiroDK wrote:
HOLD THE PRESS FOR ONE SECOND...

...and get the facts straight to why this has happened.

The IeSF stands for "International eSport Association" an is the eSport equaliant to FIFA. Yes the IeSF is not famous like WCG or MLG etc, but it takes time to build a world association with hundreds of national federations, that works as one big democracy.

The members of IeSF are national federations like eSport Danmark (Denmark), SESF (Sweden), SVÖE (austria), Mindsports South Africa etc. There are 25 members AFAIK.

The IeSF 2011 World Championship is the worldcup for its member countries. Through member democracy 3 games has been choosen as official games: FIFA, AVA and SCII. For the IeSF 2011 World Championship each country will be represented by one player in FIFA and SCII, while AVA teams were found in a qualification. ex. Germany and Holland came one and two in the Euro Qualification.

So why is KeSPA involved with IeSF?

KeSPA is the korean eSport federation and they took the initiative to start IeSF back in 2007. Thus KeSPA is the korean member in IeSF. Just like BESF is the belgium member and so on.

It is up to each member nation whether or not they want to compete in the competitions held at the IeSF 2011 World Championships. This also happened in 2010 where some contries decided not to compete in WCIII.
In this case - KeSPA - as the Korean member of IeSF - has decided not to compete in SCII for reason know perhaps only to KeSPA, but yes - it is probably because they wont regonize SCII due to their dispute with Blizzard, but that is a whole other discussion we shouldnt get into here.

So there you have it. That is the fact to why no korean players can participate in IeSF 2011 World Championship.

Cheers
KoichiroDK



This post is quite accurate and sums up the situation.
As for KeSPA vs Blizzard, they solved their debate over BW, but Blizzard still retains too much direct control over SC2 for KeSPA to recognize it, hence there are no Progaming licenses for SC2 etc.
Looking for ArcticCerebrate formerly from @USEast
thepuppyassassin
Profile Joined April 2011
900 Posts
September 27 2011 23:09 GMT
#392
On September 28 2011 06:21 ePAttack wrote:
Wouldn't this be considered discrimination?

Is it me or does this look like a type of racism or stereotype? reason to ban somebody because of there ethnicity is kinda harsh.

It's not like ALL Koreans are amazing SC players like MVP or Nestea.



Posting based on information only contained within the title... I like it.

Power posting ftw!
pigtheman
Profile Joined January 2009
United States333 Posts
September 27 2011 23:21 GMT
#393
wow why are they doing this ? O.o
*rawr* d(^_^d)
johngalt90
Profile Joined May 2010
United States357 Posts
September 27 2011 23:44 GMT
#394
This event needs to be boycotted one of the best parts about trading BW in for SC2 was we were able to leave kespa to rot. The fact they are even involved in this is sickening kespa is not democratic and doesnt deserve to be representing korea when they provide no representation for sc2 in the first place. I love BW but i hate kespa, blizzard should have gone for the jugular on kespa when they had the chance. korean esports association more like killing esports association.

kespa truly knows how to bring out the best in nerd rage aah!
fuck the haters
QuanticGaming
Profile Joined July 2011
United States36 Posts
September 28 2011 00:28 GMT
#395
LOL wtf..... Agh with the easy win now
www.QuanticGaming.com | @QuanticGaming
Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
September 28 2011 01:21 GMT
#396
On September 28 2011 09:28 QuanticGaming wrote:
LOL wtf..... Agh with the easy win now


I wonder if you have any bias in making this claim.
We found Dove in a soapless place.
jpak
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States5045 Posts
September 28 2011 01:37 GMT
#397
Is it wrong of me to be mad at BLIZZARD for this?

Starting with no LAN, Blizzard has been disappointing me month after month, and now their refusal to cooperate with Kespa has now boiled over into this. Kespa is definitely the lesser of the two evils.

From reading this thread, I reiterate what a lot of people said that a lot of the Kespa hate here is unjustified. Even when people talk about the "pp incident" and bash kespa for it, I commend it for making a concrete rule and sticking to it. Some people call it draconian, I call it "BW is serious business."
CJ Entusman #50! #1 클템 fan TL!
ZenDeX
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Philippines2916 Posts
September 28 2011 02:39 GMT
#398
Grubby vs Sjow finals incoming
ChapatiyaqPTSM
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
France1887 Posts
September 28 2011 07:34 GMT
#399
Since people have been talking about Happy (the russian player) in this thread, it's actually (Z)sLivko who will represent Russia in the IeSF 2011 World Championship, contrary to what was written on the Liquipedia article.

Sorry about the incorrect info, finding clear information about the IeSF qualifiers is not easy >.<
LiquipediaBoy, these pretzels are makin' me thirsty.
zhurai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States5660 Posts
September 28 2011 07:45 GMT
#400
Hmm.....

kespa...

you're being silly =___=. Why ruin the tournament. just pick someone from the top GSL rankings or something (herp derp MVP and/or NesTea or something)
Twitter: @zhurai | Site: http://zhurai.com
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