EPTThey are ruining everything esports in korea.
[IeSF] No Korean SC2 player allowed in IeSF 2011 - Page 20
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BaekHo
Korea (South)153 Posts
They are ruining everything esports in korea. | ||
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Sejanus
Lithuania550 Posts
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Azriel
Mexico462 Posts
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KoichiroDK
Denmark16 Posts
...and get the facts straight to why this has happened. The IeSF stands for "International eSport Association" an is the eSport equaliant to FIFA. Yes the IeSF is not famous like WCG or MLG etc, but it takes time to build a world association with hundreds of national federations, that works as one big democracy. The members of IeSF are national federations like eSport Danmark (Denmark), SESF (Sweden), SVÖE (austria), Mindsports South Africa etc. There are 25 members AFAIK. The IeSF 2011 World Championship is the worldcup for its member countries. Through member democracy 3 games has been choosen as official games: FIFA, AVA and SCII. For the IeSF 2011 World Championship each country will be represented by one player in FIFA and SCII, while AVA teams were found in a qualification. ex. Germany and Holland came one and two in the Euro Qualification. So why is KeSPA involved with IeSF? KeSPA is the korean eSport federation and they took the initiative to start IeSF back in 2007. Thus KeSPA is the korean member in IeSF. Just like BESF is the belgium member and so on. It is up to each member nation whether or not they want to compete in the competitions held at the IeSF 2011 World Championships. This also happened in 2010 where some contries decided not to compete in WCIII. In this case - KeSPA - as the Korean member of IeSF - has decided not to compete in SCII for reason know perhaps only to KeSPA, but yes - it is probably because they wont regonize SCII due to their dispute with Blizzard, but that is a whole other discussion we shouldnt get into here. So there you have it. That is the fact to why no korean players can participate in IeSF 2011 World Championship. Cheers KoichiroDK | ||
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Diamond
United States10796 Posts
On September 28 2011 04:33 KoichiroDK wrote: HOLD THE PRESS FOR ONE SECOND... ...and get the facts straight to why this has happened. The IeSF stands for "International eSport Association" an is the eSport equaliant to FIFA. Yes the IeSF is not famous like WCG or MLG etc, but it takes time to build a world association with hundreds of national federations, that works as one big democracy. The members of IeSF are national federations like eSport Danmark (Denmark), SESF (Sweden), SVÖE (austria), Mindsports South Africa etc. There are 25 members AFAIK. The IeSF 2011 World Championship is the worldcup for its member countries. Through member democracy 3 games has been choosen as official games: FIFA, AVA and SCII. For the IeSF 2011 World Championship each country will be represented by one player in FIFA and SCII, while AVA teams were found in a qualification. ex. Germany and Holland came one and two in the Euro Qualification. So why is KeSPA involved with IeSF? KeSPA is the korean eSport federation and they took the initiative to start IeSF back in 2007. Thus KeSPA is the korean member in IeSF. Just like BESF is the belgium member and so on. It is up to each member nation whether or not they want to compete in the competitions held at the IeSF 2011 World Championships. This also happened in 2010 where some contries decided not to compete in WCIII. In this case - KeSPA - as the Korean member of IeSF - has decided not to compete in SCII for reason know perhaps only to KeSPA, but yes - it is probably because they wont regonize SCII due to their dispute with Blizzard, but that is a whole other discussion we shouldnt get into here. So there you have it. That is the fact to why no korean players can participate in IeSF 2011 World Championship. Cheers KoichiroDK I mean that whole post is fine and dandy, but let's just point out that KeSPA and Blizz solved their dispute last I heard...... | ||
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KoichiroDK
Denmark16 Posts
On September 28 2011 04:37 Diamond wrote: I mean that whole post is fine and dandy, but let's just point out that KeSPA and Blizz solved their dispute last I heard...... Only for BW AFAIK. | ||
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JustPassingBy
10776 Posts
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ePAttack
United States112 Posts
Is it me or does this look like a type of racism or stereotype? reason to ban somebody because of there ethnicity is kinda harsh. It's not like ALL Koreans are amazing SC players like MVP or Nestea. | ||
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StimiLant
United States534 Posts
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NNTP
Canada47 Posts
On September 28 2011 06:21 ePAttack wrote: Wouldn't this be considered discrimination? Is it me or does this look like a type of racism or stereotype? reason to ban somebody because of there ethnicity is kinda harsh. It's not like ALL Koreans are amazing SC players like MVP or Nestea. this has nothing to do with racial discrimination because it is the korean federation itself that chose not to participate. it has more to do with it's issues with Blizzard itself. | ||
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Armathai
1023 Posts
On September 28 2011 04:33 KoichiroDK wrote: HOLD THE PRESS FOR ONE SECOND... ...and get the facts straight to why this has happened. The IeSF stands for "International eSport Association" an is the eSport equaliant to FIFA. Yes the IeSF is not famous like WCG or MLG etc, but it takes time to build a world association with hundreds of national federations, that works as one big democracy. The members of IeSF are national federations like eSport Danmark (Denmark), SESF (Sweden), SVÖE (austria), Mindsports South Africa etc. There are 25 members AFAIK. The IeSF 2011 World Championship is the worldcup for its member countries. Through member democracy 3 games has been choosen as official games: FIFA, AVA and SCII. For the IeSF 2011 World Championship each country will be represented by one player in FIFA and SCII, while AVA teams were found in a qualification. ex. Germany and Holland came one and two in the Euro Qualification. So why is KeSPA involved with IeSF? KeSPA is the korean eSport federation and they took the initiative to start IeSF back in 2007. Thus KeSPA is the korean member in IeSF. Just like BESF is the belgium member and so on. It is up to each member nation whether or not they want to compete in the competitions held at the IeSF 2011 World Championships. This also happened in 2010 where some contries decided not to compete in WCIII. In this case - KeSPA - as the Korean member of IeSF - has decided not to compete in SCII for reason know perhaps only to KeSPA, but yes - it is probably because they wont regonize SCII due to their dispute with Blizzard, but that is a whole other discussion we shouldnt get into here. So there you have it. That is the fact to why no korean players can participate in IeSF 2011 World Championship. Cheers KoichiroDK This post is quite accurate and sums up the situation. As for KeSPA vs Blizzard, they solved their debate over BW, but Blizzard still retains too much direct control over SC2 for KeSPA to recognize it, hence there are no Progaming licenses for SC2 etc. | ||
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thepuppyassassin
900 Posts
On September 28 2011 06:21 ePAttack wrote: Wouldn't this be considered discrimination? Is it me or does this look like a type of racism or stereotype? reason to ban somebody because of there ethnicity is kinda harsh. It's not like ALL Koreans are amazing SC players like MVP or Nestea. Posting based on information only contained within the title... I like it. Power posting ftw! | ||
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pigtheman
United States333 Posts
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johngalt90
United States357 Posts
kespa truly knows how to bring out the best in nerd rage aah! | ||
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QuanticGaming
United States36 Posts
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Cel.erity
United States4890 Posts
On September 28 2011 09:28 QuanticGaming wrote: LOL wtf..... Agh with the easy win now I wonder if you have any bias in making this claim.  | ||
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jpak
United States5045 Posts
Starting with no LAN, Blizzard has been disappointing me month after month, and now their refusal to cooperate with Kespa has now boiled over into this. Kespa is definitely the lesser of the two evils. From reading this thread, I reiterate what a lot of people said that a lot of the Kespa hate here is unjustified. Even when people talk about the "pp incident" and bash kespa for it, I commend it for making a concrete rule and sticking to it. Some people call it draconian, I call it "BW is serious business." | ||
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ZenDeX
Philippines2916 Posts
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ChapatiyaqPTSM
France1887 Posts
 sLivko who will represent Russia in the IeSF 2011 World Championship, contrary to what was written on the Liquipedia article.Sorry about the incorrect info, finding clear information about the IeSF qualifiers is not easy >.< | ||
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zhurai
United States5660 Posts
kespa... you're being silly =___=. Why ruin the tournament. just pick someone from the top GSL rankings or something (herp derp MVP and/or NesTea or something) | ||
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