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[IeSF] No Korean SC2 player allowed in IeSF 2011 - Page 22
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dampv
Sweden83 Posts
Or did somebody already make that joke (: | ||
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Warlord_Master
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doubleupgradeobbies!
Australia1356 Posts
Mate I quoted a reply that said kespa had never hindered korean-foreign relations in a direct reply about international market and viewers. I couldn't care less what companies are doing what. SC2 has english commentary, BW does not, there for in simple terms the international market and viewers are treated better in regards to SC2 So why did you quote the guy that said kespa had never hindered korean-foreign relations? You've just shown that Kespa doesn't cater to the international community, which they don't since they are the Korean esports players association. They've been perfectly fine with having restreams in English in the past, so it's not like they are actively stopping or hindering people from making them, there just so happens to be very little demand for it even in the foreign bw scene, since quite frankly the Korean commentators are better even if you can't understand a word they are saying. This is akin to saying, how are your Swahili, Hebrew and Hindu GSL restreams working out for you? OMG! GOM must be hindering the growth of esports internationally! No, they just happen not to cater to those markets (which probably have very little demand anyway). GOM caters to a market that has great demand for English commentary, and Kespa caters to a market that has great demand for Korean(and really only Korean) commentary. Neither are hindering anything outside what they cater for. | ||
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Ryo
8787 Posts
On September 29 2011 00:36 doubleupgradeobbies! wrote: So why did you quote the guy that said kespa had never hindered korean-foreign relations? You've just shown that Kespa doesn't cater to the international community, which they don't since they are the Korean esports players association. They've been perfectly fine with having restreams in English in the past, so it's not like they are actively stopping or hindering people from making them, there just so happens to be very little demand for it even in the foreign bw scene, since quite frankly the Korean commentators are better even if you can't understand a word they are saying. This is akin to saying, how are your Swahili, Hebrew and Hindu GSL restreams working out for you? OMG! GOM must be hindering the growth of esports internationally! No, they just happen not to cater to those markets (which probably have very little demand anyway). GOM caters to a market that has great demand for English commentary, and Kespa caters to a market that has great demand for Korean(and really only Korean) commentary. Neither are hindering anything outside what they cater for. I agree with you. But just one thing, KeSPA stands for Korean eSports Association, not players association. | ||
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doubleupgradeobbies!
Australia1356 Posts
On September 29 2011 03:47 Ryo wrote: I agree with you. But just one thing, KeSPA stands for Korean eSports Association, not players association. ahh ok, it seems wikipedia has it incorrectly named >< It does make alot more sense as an esports association rather than an esports player's association though :D | ||
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Ryo
8787 Posts
On September 29 2011 03:58 doubleupgradeobbies! wrote: ahh ok, it seems wikipedia has it incorrectly named >< It does make alot more sense as an esports association rather than an esports player's association though :D Yeah, and the silly thing is that in the wikipedia entry, the KeSPA logo is displayed on the right with the words "Korea e-Sports Association". | ||
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Cel.erity
United States4890 Posts
On September 29 2011 06:39 Ryo wrote: Yeah, and the silly thing is that in the wikipedia entry, the KeSPA logo is displayed on the right with the words "Korea e-Sports Association". I fixed the wikipiedia entry, it's under http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_e-Sports_Association now.  | ||
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anrimayu
United States875 Posts
On September 28 2011 22:00 Pufftrees wrote: This is like the WNBA. Their good fundamentals make up for their inability to multitask? | ||
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Ryo
8787 Posts
On September 29 2011 07:05 Cel.erity wrote: I fixed the wikipiedia entry, it's under http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_e-Sports_Association now. Thanks | ||
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Grimskov
Greece41 Posts
DailyEsports is reporting that IeSF hasn't reached SC2 licencing agreement with Gretech yet. IeSF is considering switching SC2 from official title to exhibition title Can someone please explain what this actually means? Thx ^_^ | ||
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StutteR
United States1903 Posts
On September 29 2011 18:08 Grimskov wrote: Can someone please explain what this actually means? Thx ^_^ Blizzard gave Gretech, the owner of GOM, exclusive SC2 rights in Korea for 2 years. If anyone wants to broadcast Korean SC2 , they need permission from Gretech. Dunno what this has to do with KeSpa tho. Edit: IeSF seems to have two problems. No permission from GOM and they fucked up and chose Kespa to choose Korean players when Kespa doesn't have any SC2 players and isn't even allowed to oversee the game. | ||
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ShadeR
Australia7535 Posts
On September 29 2011 00:05 Warlord_Master wrote: Kespa Should not get involved, they have nothing to do with sc2 and from the lawsuits they receive from blizzard earlier, they should not bother. They have bigger problems to worry about seeing as they are the pillar of bw and it may/may not collapse based on if they can find sponsors for new teams. Let Gretech do this job Kespa is doing exactly what your saying...not getting involved =S. Kespa: There will be no korean SC2 rep because we do not have any SC2 progamers contacted. THATS IT. On September 29 2011 18:11 StutteR wrote: Blizzard gave Gretech, the owner of GOM, exclusive SC2 rights in Korea for 2 years. If anyone wants to broadcast Korean SC2 , they need permission from Gretech. Dunno what this has to do with KeSpa tho. Edit: IeSF seems to have two problems. No permission from GOM and they fucked up and chose Kespa to choose Korean players when Kespa doesn't have any SC2 players and isn't even allowed to oversee the game. I don't think this is accurate. From what i've gather by listening to TL members more in the know ^^. Is that IeSF is like WCG and Kespa is Korea. Kespa(Korea) has no SC2 progamers thus there will be no Korean SC2 rep. Just as there is no Somali kart rider rep. | ||
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-IeZaeL-
Spain327 Posts
LoLvsxD wanted to PP the match for 30minuts,but "DeathForfeit" refused to PP the match (When he was in a "PRO-House" here in Spain playing 24/7) What a disgrace. | ||
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Big J
Austria16289 Posts
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Vorenius
Denmark1979 Posts
On September 29 2011 19:05 -WizardsIeZa- wrote: Deathfate won the qualifer in Spain by W.O,the player he had to face in the final was Wizards.LoLvsxD. (Who have the best ZvZ in Spain) LoLvsxD wanted to PP the match for 30minuts,but "DeathForfeit" refused to PP the match (When he was in a "PRO-House" here in Spain playing 24/7) What a disgrace. I agree, it's a disgrace. The spanish tournament organizers should have disqualified Wizards.LoLvsxD without asking Deathfate in the first place. It's not his job to run a tournament only to play in it. It is his job to be present on time and to play games. Since only one of the players in the final managed that it makes sense Deathfate qualified for the grand finals and Wizards.LoLvsxD didn't. But I'm sure you aren't biased in the slightest... :/ | ||
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GeLouKo
Brazil43 Posts
Sad that there was no qualify in Brazil, but I agree that Reason is the most prepared brazilian player currently. | ||
ChapatiyaqPTSM
France1887 Posts
On September 29 2011 20:23 GeLouKo wrote: I think Brazil will have a player in this tournament. Though there was no qualify, I think the Brazilian organization (CBEC) affiliated to IeSF invited the player KT.Reason. He also is the player that KT (Keyd Team) choose to send to MLG Orlando. Sad that there was no qualify in Brazil, but I agree that Reason is the most prepared brazilian player currently. Thanks for the information. I added Reason on the Liquipedia page (  IeSF 2011 World Championship) | ||
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P0ckets
United States430 Posts
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doubleupgradeobbies!
Australia1356 Posts
On September 30 2011 14:44 P0ckets wrote: Fuck KeSPA and their bureaucratic bullshit. There is no reason to treat a game that is growing in popularity, is more popular globally, and eventually will replace SC:BW... I mean come on we are seeing it happen to boxing now that MMA is so popular. Same thing will happen. Did you even read the thread? This was never KeSPA's fault in the first place. IESF asking them to choose sc2 players is like asking FIFA to decide on seeds to the next Wimbledon. It's not really any of their business. As for sc2 replacing BW, or MMA replacing boxing, thats just ridiculous, it's like saying soccer will replace american football because it's more popular globally and growing in popularity. They are completely different games, the only reason SC2 is even affiliated with BW is that blizzard decided to chuck SC in front of SC2 instead of giving it some other name. You can't replace any one of them with the other. One might outlive the other, but being so completely different, replace is basically impossible. | ||
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GizmoPT
Portugal3040 Posts
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