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On September 21 2011 22:33 dde wrote:
rofl ppl just whine hard about terran. Can u guys not see how virus won the build order by like really huge early game? He kept his lead entire game and attacked just before p got aoe.
At this point it seems like most protoss are trying to "cheese" their way a win as terran is so far mind fucking protoss hard with the mu advantage. If you asked most people for a top 10 list it would end up 8 terrans 2 zerg maybe 7 and 3 and if you expand that to top 20 maybe 15/4 with 1 p if that. at what point are people going to realize that there is something up with that, oh right only good pros are terran pros.
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On September 21 2011 22:28 openbox1 wrote:
I'm just curious, Huk always manages to stick with Code S by the skin of his teeth. I always recall him in the up or downs or just barely avoiding it. Yet, the casters always say he "favored" or "one of the best."
Why? I know internationally where there are less Koreans he has done well and has taken down MC at Homestory, but in the GSL he's always been meh...
Artosis always disses on guys like Ensnare, Zenio etc who have been staples of Code S, but wouldn't Huk be more or less on the same level? Admittedly, he gets alot of lucky breaks in the up/downs avoiding code A several times.
Lmao, HuK has gone down to Up & Down matches from Code S once and that's sticking in Code S by the skin of his teeth?
How is that getting alot of breaks in Up/Downs? He had MMA and MKP in his Up/Down Group.
If you're gonna spew crap. At least get your facts right.
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seriously just merge protoss and zerg races, ya know Hybrid from single player.
that'd be so cool...
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60% of playing terrans eliminated
100% of playing protoss eliminated
50% of playing zerg eliminated ... the other one being nestea
Just to show that everyone can forge numbers.
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On September 21 2011 22:37 KimJongChill wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2011 22:34 HaruRH wrote:On September 21 2011 22:28 openbox1 wrote:
I'm just curious, Huk always manages to stick with Code S by the skin of his teeth. I always recall him in the up or downs or just barely avoiding it. Yet, the casters always say he "favored" or "one of the best."
Why? I know internationally where there are less Koreans he has done well and has taken down MC at Homestory, but in the GSL he's always been meh...
Artosis always disses on guys like Ensnare, Zenio etc who have been staples of Code S, but wouldn't Huk be more or less on the same level? Admittedly, he gets alot of lucky breaks in the up/downs avoiding code A several times. This leads to polt's famous quote :' most players in GSL are carried by race, not skill.' HuK is certainly being a boss of a protoss right now. No other protoss other than hongun is staying consistent in code S. What about players like ensnare? If he played protoss, he would be in code B. Huk gets really easy groups. It's the truth. Last GSL he played Killer 3 times, and now the guy is code A.
actually dude if u take a look at the current poll you will see that killer is still in code S
G - DRG, Polt, Killer, Taeja
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On September 21 2011 22:24 eot wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2011 22:22 Plansix wrote:On September 21 2011 22:21 Scorch wrote:
Wow. And I thought zealots were strong. Not vs Terran with ghosts. They don't even need to get mobile detection or to micro. He was ahead in upgrades and had a bigger army Zealots can be cost effective against very small groups of bio, but against a clump of that size you don't get enough surface area compared to the DPS inside.
Ahead in upgrades? It was 0-2 vs 1-1, HuK invested 350 gas into charge also.
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On September 21 2011 22:37 Priwall wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2011 22:34 bigjenk wrote:On September 21 2011 22:28 openbox1 wrote:
I'm just curious, Huk always manages to stick with Code S by the skin of his teeth. I always recall him in the up or downs or just barely avoiding it. Yet, the casters always say he "favored" or "one of the best."
Why? I know internationally where there are less Koreans he has done well and has taken down MC at Homestory, but in the GSL he's always been meh...
Artosis always disses on guys like Ensnare, Zenio etc who have been staples of Code S, but wouldn't Huk be more or less on the same level? Admittedly, he gets alot of lucky breaks in the up/downs avoiding code A several times. Did pretty well last month. And staying in code s by the skin of your teeth makes you a top 3 protoss in the world at the moment, with mc falling out of code a the only more consistent protoss lately is hong un and genius and neither has been tearing up much of anything. Last gsl ro8 was more of a luck run imo. Sanghos PvP was not even Code A level as well as Nada's TvP. He then got humiliated by MVP in ro8.
Who didn't last season?
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LorangerChris Chris Loranger
Sorry all I have been having some personal stress last few days my mind was bad. I will keep fighting TT
Mhm :/ I really dont know why he did this dt crap, he played so beautifully against zenio and even that game but there was no coming back from that situation. I think he couldve overcome the imbalance. Really sad  But hell be back and Im really impressed, just watching him staying alive in that situation was inspritating.
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3 terrans and a zerg at least it wasnt 4 terrans!!!
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On September 21 2011 22:40 Cyro wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2011 22:24 eot wrote:On September 21 2011 22:22 Plansix wrote:On September 21 2011 22:21 Scorch wrote:
Wow. And I thought zealots were strong. Not vs Terran with ghosts. They don't even need to get mobile detection or to micro. He was ahead in upgrades and had a bigger army Zealots can be cost effective against very small groups of bio, but against a clump of that size you don't get enough surface area compared to the DPS inside. Ahead in upgrades? It was 0-2 vs 1-1, HuK invested 350 gas into charge also.
It was 0:1 at the most.
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He's finished top foreigner in a lot of tournaments lately, so he's clearly got kudos for that. He's competing with the Koreans, which again, kudos. But wipe all that crap away and what do you have? Someone who is finishing 6th at MLG, losing in the first round of DH Valenca, Round of 8 and now Round of 32.
He takes the game seriously and he practices at a level he needs to practice. He's in a different position now from where he was when he was winning tournaments. I think he's better. I do think Patch 1.4 will positively influence his record. He is a top flight player and I do believe he is handicapped atm by playing Protoss. Do I think it's unfair however? No. Balance is always a work in progress and it's absurd to rage over it. Huk continuously practices at a high level because he knows eventually the infinitesimal imbalance will favor his race or it won't matter. When that happens, he will be a truly scary nerd baller.
He is in an excellent position and I hope he continues his hard work. Very good games today, especially from NesTea. Hopefully he will continue to melt faces so 90% of the people inhabiting this thread don't have an aneurysm.
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On September 21 2011 22:38 TheHova wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2011 22:28 openbox1 wrote:
I'm just curious, Huk always manages to stick with Code S by the skin of his teeth. I always recall him in the up or downs or just barely avoiding it. Yet, the casters always say he "favored" or "one of the best."
Why? I know internationally where there are less Koreans he has done well and has taken down MC at Homestory, but in the GSL he's always been meh...
Artosis always disses on guys like Ensnare, Zenio etc who have been staples of Code S, but wouldn't Huk be more or less on the same level? Admittedly, he gets alot of lucky breaks in the up/downs avoiding code A several times. Lmao, HuK has gone down to Up & Down matches from Code S once and that's sticking in Code S by the skin of his teeth? How is that getting alot of breaks in Up/Downs? He had MMA and MKP in his Up/Down Group. If you're gonna spew crap. At least get your facts right.
He played Inca and Choya to get Code S, neither of whom are in Code A anymore.
Then got knocked into up and down his first code s season, and made it by beating mma, who was notoriously weak in tvp back then.
In july, he beat alive and killer to get 2-0'd by MC in ro16.
In august he made it out of his group 2-1 by beating killer twice. He did beat nada ro16, though which was impressive.
He's been improving, but by no means has his gsl career been impressive.
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On September 21 2011 22:43 s3rp wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2011 22:40 Cyro wrote:On September 21 2011 22:24 eot wrote:On September 21 2011 22:22 Plansix wrote:On September 21 2011 22:21 Scorch wrote:
Wow. And I thought zealots were strong. Not vs Terran with ghosts. They don't even need to get mobile detection or to micro. He was ahead in upgrades and had a bigger army Zealots can be cost effective against very small groups of bio, but against a clump of that size you don't get enough surface area compared to the DPS inside. Ahead in upgrades? It was 0-2 vs 1-1, HuK invested 350 gas into charge also. It was 0:1 at the most.
It was 0/1 but 30 food less in supply with a fair amount of medivacs.
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On September 21 2011 22:39 R3N wrote:
seriously just merge protoss and zerg races, ya know Hybrid from single player.
that'd be so cool...
we need baller to make a thread on the new units - hydraroachstalker? with blink and burrow? chargebanelots that can charge and explode on impact?
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On September 21 2011 22:37 KimJongChill wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2011 22:34 HaruRH wrote:On September 21 2011 22:28 openbox1 wrote:
I'm just curious, Huk always manages to stick with Code S by the skin of his teeth. I always recall him in the up or downs or just barely avoiding it. Yet, the casters always say he "favored" or "one of the best."
Why? I know internationally where there are less Koreans he has done well and has taken down MC at Homestory, but in the GSL he's always been meh...
Artosis always disses on guys like Ensnare, Zenio etc who have been staples of Code S, but wouldn't Huk be more or less on the same level? Admittedly, he gets alot of lucky breaks in the up/downs avoiding code A several times. This leads to polt's famous quote :' most players in GSL are carried by race, not skill.' HuK is certainly being a boss of a protoss right now. No other protoss other than hongun is staying consistent in code S. What about players like ensnare? If he played protoss, he would be in code B. Huk gets really easy groups. It's the truth. Last GSL he played Killer 3 times, and now the guy is code A.
That's Trcikster you're thinking about and not Killer. Killer is still Code S and yes Huk did play him previously.
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On September 21 2011 22:37 KimJongChill wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2011 22:34 HaruRH wrote:On September 21 2011 22:28 openbox1 wrote:
I'm just curious, Huk always manages to stick with Code S by the skin of his teeth. I always recall him in the up or downs or just barely avoiding it. Yet, the casters always say he "favored" or "one of the best."
Why? I know internationally where there are less Koreans he has done well and has taken down MC at Homestory, but in the GSL he's always been meh...
Artosis always disses on guys like Ensnare, Zenio etc who have been staples of Code S, but wouldn't Huk be more or less on the same level? Admittedly, he gets alot of lucky breaks in the up/downs avoiding code A several times. This leads to polt's famous quote :' most players in GSL are carried by race, not skill.' HuK is certainly being a boss of a protoss right now. No other protoss other than hongun is staying consistent in code S. What about players like ensnare? If he played protoss, he would be in code B. Huk gets really easy groups. It's the truth. Last GSL he played Killer 3 times, and now the guy is code A.
killer is still code s...
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On September 21 2011 22:40 Cyro wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2011 22:24 eot wrote:On September 21 2011 22:22 Plansix wrote:On September 21 2011 22:21 Scorch wrote:
Wow. And I thought zealots were strong. Not vs Terran with ghosts. They don't even need to get mobile detection or to micro. He was ahead in upgrades and had a bigger army Zealots can be cost effective against very small groups of bio, but against a clump of that size you don't get enough surface area compared to the DPS inside. Ahead in upgrades? It was 0-2 vs 1-1, HuK invested 350 gas into charge also.
forget about the upgrades. forget about the perfect flank. forget about tvp imbalance. huk was about 30-40 down in supply. you give me unmicroed stalkers vs 33 cracklings with the stalkers having a 40 supply advantage of course teh stalkers will win. im a protoss and i love huk but it was clear to see the game was over when his dt harrass failed.
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shame for huk, but atleast he stays in code s
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On September 21 2011 22:40 Cyro wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2011 22:24 eot wrote:On September 21 2011 22:22 Plansix wrote:On September 21 2011 22:21 Scorch wrote:
Wow. And I thought zealots were strong. Not vs Terran with ghosts. They don't even need to get mobile detection or to micro. He was ahead in upgrades and had a bigger army Zealots can be cost effective against very small groups of bio, but against a clump of that size you don't get enough surface area compared to the DPS inside. Ahead in upgrades? It was 0-2 vs 1-1, HuK invested 350 gas into charge also.
350 gas? thats odd ^^
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