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fixed_point
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany4891 Posts
September 21 2011 11:56 GMT
#2141
Zenio creeping the map up.
KingPaddy
Profile Joined November 2010
1053 Posts
September 21 2011 11:56 GMT
#2142
On September 21 2011 20:54 Itsmedudeman wrote:
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On September 21 2011 20:52 Dominico wrote:
On September 21 2011 20:51 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On September 21 2011 20:49 Dominico wrote:
On September 21 2011 20:49 j0ker wrote:
guys..bringing 4 or 5 scvs with an attack does not make it an all in. especially when you didnt cut scv production.

sitting on 1 base forever makes it an all in.

So then huk was all in too...?

do you play starcraft 2? seriously..

Seriously what? Huk was trying to defend an all-in with an all-in build.

Exactly. Virus didn't even had to do dmage in the first push, because 1base vs 1base is good for T economically. So he could've just contained HuK as well.
That's why P has to fast expand against Terran.
nomatch353
Profile Joined January 2011
69 Posts
September 21 2011 11:57 GMT
#2143
On September 21 2011 20:54 Itsmedudeman wrote:
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On September 21 2011 20:52 Dominico wrote:
On September 21 2011 20:51 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On September 21 2011 20:49 Dominico wrote:
On September 21 2011 20:49 j0ker wrote:
guys..bringing 4 or 5 scvs with an attack does not make it an all in. especially when you didnt cut scv production.

sitting on 1 base forever makes it an all in.

So then huk was all in too...?

do you play starcraft 2? seriously..

Seriously what? Huk was trying to defend an all-in with an all-in build.



+1

User was warned for this post
SuperFanBoy
Profile Joined June 2011
New Zealand1068 Posts
September 21 2011 11:57 GMT
#2144
On September 21 2011 20:53 MetalSlug wrote:
words can not describe how much i hate TL.net these days.

Absolutly everything is All-in. SCV builds rax -> RAX ALL IN!

People jump to conclusions over Gossip posts and change sides like underwear....

LR Threads have more Balance whine than the designated Balance whine Thread...

Please TL admins do something before its to late


what game were you watching? he pulled off every single scv off the mineral line, he had 1 mule mining.. if that isn't all in what is? Also the first attack was an all in, you cut scv's for 5+ minutes and don't start another CC..
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-21 11:57:40
September 21 2011 11:57 GMT
#2145
On September 21 2011 20:55 FallDownMarigold wrote:
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On September 21 2011 20:52 mTw|NarutO wrote:
On September 21 2011 20:52 -y0shi- wrote:
On September 21 2011 20:49 -y0shi- wrote:
Could any1 tell me what happened in the huk game? I thought it started 20 minutes ago? How can it be over already?


Anyone? Please?


1 Base Marine/Tank push rolled 3 Gate Robo


Since he's provided subtly biased account of events A, I will provide subtly biased account of events B:

1 Base Zealot/Stalker/Immortal was mismicroed against 3 Rax Fact


How can I be biased towards Protoss? I am Terran.

And what happened was Marine/Tank rolled 3 Gate Robo and for me thats perfectly fine. Marines are high DPS, low HP units that need to get countered by splash damage.
If its through own tanks (aka enough zealots and good force fields so Terran has actually to focus fire with tanks) or with colossus OR overwhelming forces. Huk had neither and made mistakes so he lost the game.

:/ Really people should start thinking before posting.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
Demonace34
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2493 Posts
September 21 2011 11:57 GMT
#2146
On September 21 2011 20:56 Demonace34 wrote:
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On September 21 2011 20:55 Demonace34 wrote:
On September 21 2011 20:54 Demonace34 wrote:
On September 21 2011 20:53 Demonace34 wrote:
On September 21 2011 20:51 Demonace34 wrote:
On September 21 2011 20:50 Demonace34 wrote:
On September 21 2011 20:49 Demonace34 wrote:
(Z)Zenio P8<Antiga Shipyard>(T)asd P3

2:10 Rax>gas for asd, hatch first from Zenio.

3:40 Pool and hatch finish for Zenio, reactor hellion expand from asd. CC goes down.

5:20 Spines going down for Zenio, Hellions taking map control. Metabolic boost on the way for Zenio.

7:30 asd has his hellions camped outside natural of Zenio to hold creep back while he gets another expansion up. Bane nest almost done for Zenio.

9:00 Zenio spine pushing out so he can secure his 3rd. Stim halfway done starport coming up for asd. Zenio getting up spire.

10:15 Zenio getting +1 melee and bane speed as his 3rd comes online. Hellions still holding map control as asd pushes out with tank marine. Zenio counters into the 3rd getting a good amount of scv kills.

11:50 asd turns around to clean up the counter at the 3rd and pushes out again. Mutas coming into the 3rd, but there is proper turret placement to fend them off.
NaNiwa|IdrA|HuK|iNcontroL|Jinro|NonY|Day[9]|PuMa|HerO|MMA|NesTea|NaDa|Boxer|Ryung|
Rayansaki
Profile Joined January 2011
Portugal1266 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-21 11:58:33
September 21 2011 11:57 GMT
#2147
On September 21 2011 20:49 Dominico wrote:
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On September 21 2011 20:49 j0ker wrote:
guys..bringing 4 or 5 scvs with an attack does not make it an all in. especially when you didnt cut scv production.

sitting on 1 base forever makes it an all in.


Sitting on 1 base forever vs a protoss on 1 base is not an all in. Specially because you can float your orbital to natural to continue mining while toss can't.

Virus' first attack wasn't an all in, the second was.
The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse: IMNestea (Death), IMLosirA (Famine), IMmvp (War), IMFenix (Conquest)
KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
September 21 2011 11:57 GMT
#2148
On September 21 2011 20:56 Asha` wrote:
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On September 21 2011 20:48 Probe1 wrote:
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more like

[image loading]

amirite?

====

Good luck Zenio! I've really liked his play lately.

I'm not sure what to think of asd, he seems like a pretty solid Terran but he's never wowed me or anything.


I don't get it...
MMA: U realise MMA: Most of my army EgIdra: fuck off MMA: Killed my orbital MMA: LOL MMA: just saying MMA: u werent loss
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
September 21 2011 11:57 GMT
#2149
On September 21 2011 20:55 Pajegetc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2011 20:54 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On September 21 2011 20:52 Dominico wrote:
On September 21 2011 20:51 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On September 21 2011 20:49 Dominico wrote:
On September 21 2011 20:49 j0ker wrote:
guys..bringing 4 or 5 scvs with an attack does not make it an all in. especially when you didnt cut scv production.

sitting on 1 base forever makes it an all in.

So then huk was all in too...?

do you play starcraft 2? seriously..

Seriously what? Huk was trying to defend an all-in with an all-in build.


Huk was never all in, he tried to expand twice during that game but couldn't due to Virus allining.

Ok so? I'm not saying the build is fair, but it's not confusing or outrageous as to why virus was able to do an effective push again the second time around when huk really had no advantage after the first push failed.
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
September 21 2011 11:58 GMT
#2150
On September 21 2011 20:52 baubo wrote:
It's weird how many people say "well huk made a mistake or two so it's no big deal he lost". I found virus made a hell of a lot more mistakes, and bigger ones, devastating ones, and still won. He also played "standard" without ingenuity or quick thinking. He had a build and played it and won.

If you want perfectly played game in order to win, that's stupid. No player plays perfectly. Not even Flash plays perfectly(for those familiar with BW). If that's what it takes to win a game, then there's something wrong with the game.

Without going too far into this I have to give a short response.

Huk preformed superbly until the final engagement. Probe vs SCV. Immortal vs Tank. Zealots clashing into marines and Stalkers firing wildly onto all.

What went wrong and cost Huk this delieriously well played game? The zealots didn't fight. The majority of his damage dealers were behind immortals while marines peppered down the anti tank and then, amidst the tank fire and marine wall, the zealots disappeared to the Khala.

It's one thing to have your all in fail because your opponent dissects tanks and marines with force fields zoning an army out of the fight. Walking into a marine tank blob and losing an immortal is another bad but not game changing mismicro.

Fighting with your probes THEN immortals THEN zealots however is a devastating mistake. Terran never made it, Protoss did and we are all sad for it.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
September 21 2011 11:58 GMT
#2151
On September 21 2011 20:52 mTw|NarutO wrote:
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On September 21 2011 20:50 tomatriedes wrote:
On September 21 2011 20:44 mTw|NarutO wrote:
On September 21 2011 20:44 firehand101 wrote:
sorry mods, im really sorry but

@#$%^&%$#%^ TERRAN!


I'm sorry, but that had nothing to do with Terran. Reported-_-


People who announce when they report people should be banned too IMO. It's pretty obnoxious.


I just let him know how retarded his behaviour is and that its not how you should post on Teamliquid. There's a long post about how this community is run and should work and the 'veterans' should point out things from newer posters. I have >10000 posts, he has less than 1000. Maybe he's not aware that this is not the way he should post.

Even if he posts "sorry admins" its not a free to bash card. If you have any problems with my attitude, you can PM me.


I dont think what he posted, considering the circumstances of a LR thread and a frustrating game is any more problematic than someone calling his behavior "retarded" for a pretty harmless comment. Especially coming from someone with >10000 posts. Who knows, maybe what he meant to say with "@#$%^&%$#%^" is "love"
beep boop
Supamang
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2298 Posts
September 21 2011 11:58 GMT
#2152
On September 21 2011 20:53 MetalSlug wrote:
words can not describe how much i hate TL.net these days.

Absolutly everything is All-in. SCV builds rax -> RAX ALL IN!

People jump to conclusions over Gossip posts and change sides like underwear....

LR Threads have more Balance whine than the designated Balance whine Thread...

Please TL admins do something before its to late

if this is a response to the Virus vs Huk game, I really dont know what to say. Virus pulled half his SCVs for the first attack, then the rest for his second attack. Both are very all-in moves

Its kinda sad that Huk losing 1 immortal is much more significant than Virus losing 1 tank
CortoMontez
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia608 Posts
September 21 2011 11:58 GMT
#2153
On September 21 2011 20:57 KimJongChill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2011 20:56 Asha` wrote:
On September 21 2011 20:48 Probe1 wrote:
[image loading]


more like

[image loading]

amirite?

====

Good luck Zenio! I've really liked his play lately.

I'm not sure what to think of asd, he seems like a pretty solid Terran but he's never wowed me or anything.


I don't get it...

Count his fingers...
"Creator was doing a really good job trying to win without storm but it was like eating spaghetti with a screwdriver." -Severian
MagickMan
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia498 Posts
September 21 2011 11:58 GMT
#2154
On September 21 2011 20:57 KimJongChill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2011 20:56 Asha` wrote:
On September 21 2011 20:48 Probe1 wrote:
[image loading]


more like

[image loading]

amirite?

====

Good luck Zenio! I've really liked his play lately.

I'm not sure what to think of asd, he seems like a pretty solid Terran but he's never wowed me or anything.


I don't get it...

extra finger
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
September 21 2011 11:58 GMT
#2155
On September 21 2011 20:57 KimJongChill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2011 20:56 Asha` wrote:
On September 21 2011 20:48 Probe1 wrote:
[image loading]


more like

[image loading]

amirite?

====

Good luck Zenio! I've really liked his play lately.

I'm not sure what to think of asd, he seems like a pretty solid Terran but he's never wowed me or anything.


I don't get it...

3 fingers in the second picture 111 right?
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
bbm
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom1320 Posts
September 21 2011 11:58 GMT
#2156
Aww I can't watch at work and I came in here to find out about the zenio game and all I find is whining about pvt

lol the games over i want to know about the current one guys
By.Sun or By.Rain, he always delivers
Demonace34
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2493 Posts
September 21 2011 11:59 GMT
#2157
On September 21 2011 20:57 Demonace34 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2011 20:56 Demonace34 wrote:
On September 21 2011 20:55 Demonace34 wrote:
On September 21 2011 20:54 Demonace34 wrote:
On September 21 2011 20:53 Demonace34 wrote:
On September 21 2011 20:51 Demonace34 wrote:
On September 21 2011 20:50 Demonace34 wrote:
On September 21 2011 20:49 Demonace34 wrote:
(Z)Zenio P8<Antiga Shipyard>(T)asd P3

2:10 Rax>gas for asd, hatch first from Zenio.

3:40 Pool and hatch finish for Zenio, reactor hellion expand from asd. CC goes down.

5:20 Spines going down for Zenio, Hellions taking map control. Metabolic boost on the way for Zenio.

7:30 asd has his hellions camped outside natural of Zenio to hold creep back while he gets another expansion up. Bane nest almost done for Zenio.

9:00 Zenio spine pushing out so he can secure his 3rd. Stim halfway done starport coming up for asd. Zenio getting up spire.

10:15 Zenio getting +1 melee and bane speed as his 3rd comes online. Hellions still holding map control as asd pushes out with tank marine. Zenio counters into the 3rd getting a good amount of scv kills.

11:50 asd turns around to clean up the counter at the 3rd and pushes out again. Mutas coming into the 3rd, but there is proper turret placement to fend them off.

13:00 asd siegeing up near the watchtower and clears creep out. Burrow and more mutas on the way for Zenio. asd getting armory and weapon upgrade. Zenio hides a hatch at the 11 o clock natural.
NaNiwa|IdrA|HuK|iNcontroL|Jinro|NonY|Day[9]|PuMa|HerO|MMA|NesTea|NaDa|Boxer|Ryung|
-y0shi-
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany994 Posts
September 21 2011 11:59 GMT
#2158
Is there a game 2 of huk vs virus? They didnt really play Bo1 did they? If there is one, is it after this game?
FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4519 Posts
September 21 2011 11:59 GMT
#2159
On September 21 2011 20:56 Asha` wrote:
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On September 21 2011 20:48 Probe1 wrote:
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more like

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


amirite?

====

Good luck Zenio! I've really liked his play lately.

I'm not sure what to think of asd, he seems like a pretty solid Terran but he's never wowed me or anything.

That took me way longer than it should have to get that..
hi. big fan.
Goibon
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand8185 Posts
September 21 2011 11:59 GMT
#2160
Love watching muta marine trades. Such smart play.
Leenock =^_^= Ryung =^_^= Parting =^_^= herO =^_^= Guilty
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