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fixed_point
Germany4891 Posts
On September 21 2011 21:00 -y0shi- wrote: Can anyone explain how these groups work pls qq? Why did huk only play 1 game? Im confused qq 2 initial matches. Winner of those matches play each other, losers of those matches play each other. Winner of winner match goes through first place. Loser of winner match plays winner of losers match for second place | ||
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Hassybaby
United Kingdom10823 Posts
On September 21 2011 21:00 dohee wrote: Well my question was are you better off expanding rather than 1 basing to defend a 1 base attack like virus did. My wording was a bit confusing You don't really have time to expand and scout the attack with an observer to make a difference, so you really only can do one of them | ||
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ItsMeDomLee
Canada2732 Posts
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althaz
Australia1001 Posts
He cancelled the robo bay because he would've lost without doing so (most likely). After stopping the attack once Protoss NEEDS to expand because they will be mined out soon and Terran can just lift and move. There also wasn't enough time to get Colossi + Range (Colossi useless without it vs anything + tanks) between the two attacks. If he'd gone for it he'd have had 1 colossi, no range and no units. Auto-lose. Huk did well (amazingly so) with the first attack and lost to the follow-up which he was basically certain to do. There's no way Huk could've won unless he'd kept his robo bay initially and gone for range and a colossi and somehow had the same amount of units when the 1st attack hit. Then he'd have been fine, but that doesn't actually seem physically possible to me tho. Huk needed to expand earlier and get more gateways up I think, although that usually dies to the 1st attack... EDIT: TLDR: You can't hold the 1-1-1 and win vs a competent Terran without having early expanded or Colossi RUSHED (blind). | ||
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Seditary
Australia7033 Posts
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Giriath
Sweden2412 Posts
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-y0shi-
Germany994 Posts
On September 21 2011 21:00 michielbrands wrote: first time you watch gsl groupstage? it's always bo1, Yeah im kinda new, thanks ^^ So this is the group stage and huk has to play the looser? Does the looser of the looser game go to code a? How does it work? Thanks =) | ||
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FataLe
New Zealand4492 Posts
On September 21 2011 21:00 CortoMontez wrote: Actually I think the fingers represented 1-1-1 Funny, cos, it wasn't a 1-1-1. | ||
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zyzq
United States3123 Posts
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Kewlots
Australia534 Posts
On September 21 2011 20:55 MagickMan wrote: virus would have had no gas for tanks, huk can kite marines all day if theres no tanks, he also had around 5-10 probes still he only had a few probes no way he had ten or even 5 and no he cant kite marines all day when trapped inside his base they would corner him or just kill all his buildings plus there was a tank rallying it was over like this discussion | ||
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bbm
United Kingdom1320 Posts
On September 21 2011 21:00 -y0shi- wrote: Can anyone explain how these groups work pls qq? Why did huk only play 1 game? Im confused qq two starting matches winners of those two play losers of those two play winner of the losers match and loser of the winners match play Top 2 go on to next round, 3rd stays in code s, 4th goes to up/down match | ||
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AxionSteel
United States7754 Posts
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Goibon
New Zealand8185 Posts
On September 21 2011 21:01 crazykirsch wrote: considering the top3 control joke predates 1-1-1 balance whine, I think that it was probably intended as top3control, but could be either one I suppose It could be both. If you believe that game was won because of imbalance, it's 111, if you believe the game was lost because Huk mismicroed, it's top 3 control. | ||
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michielbrands
Netherlands1146 Posts
On September 21 2011 21:00 -y0shi- wrote: Can anyone explain how these groups work pls qq? Why did huk only play 1 game? Im confused qq Just see the other poule, 2 bo1, winners play eachother, losers play eachother, winner losers match and loser winner match face each other, winner of that math and winner of the winners match advance | ||
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Paradice
New Zealand431 Posts
PvT Tal'Darim... Virus opens with 2 hellions, before switching to tech-lab factory and getting 3 siege tanks + marines for an early push. Huk goes Gate, Robo into 3 gate, rushing obs. When he sees the terran production he starts a robo bay; when he sees it moving out (it came without a starport) he cancels the halfway bay and starts chrono'ing out stalkers from his 3 gates ASAP, plus an immortal. He repels the initial marine+siege tank attack virtually perfectly, using forcefields, ramps, and positioning. Takes zero economic damage. He ends up with about 6-7 stalkers and a zealot and virus is picked clean. Huk throws down an expo straight away. Virus regroups on marine+tank (2 siege tanks this time) and pushes out in classic "all in transitioned into another all in" style. HuK cancels the expo and builds a forward pylon right in Virus' base while preparing to hold wave 2. SCVs come along for the ride. Standoff at HuK's natural while he devotes three or four warp cycles to base harrassment. He's adding immortals as fast as he can but isn't going for any extra tech. HuK's proxy attack is pretty much cleaned up by the leftover production of marine+tank there, but there are two stalkers left. Terran has no econ at this point except a single mule. The two remaining stalkers come to help break the siege from behind. Marines (about 15) get in a big clump in front of the siege tanks, which set up shop at Huk's choke and can hit one of his gates. HuK is forced to commit, he's got 3-4 immortals, half a dozen stalkers and maybe 2-3 zealot/sentry (plus 2 stalkers coming from behind to try and hit the tanks). He pulls all probes too. The tanks go down but at the cost of Huk's army, since his immortal/stalkers have to walk into the marine ball to hit them. What's left is 2 zealots and a sentry vs 9 marines with combat shield. No real contest. Huk GG's and probably wonders what he could possibly have done differently. | ||
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Loire
Singapore1358 Posts
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Demonace34
United States2493 Posts
On September 21 2011 21:01 Demonace34 wrote: 16:40 asd trades his entire army to take out the 11 o clock natural. Zenio throws down more bases. 3 base to 3 base. +2 flyer attacks and +2 melee attack for Zenio. Push coming out from asd through the middle to take out the gold base. 18:50 Zenio surrounds the middle watchtower with a ton of flanks, asd has to relocate the gold CC for a minute. asd losing a lot of his siege tanks to mutas. | ||
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Loxley
Netherlands2480 Posts
On September 21 2011 21:00 -y0shi- wrote: Can anyone explain how these groups work pls qq? Why did huk only play 1 game? Im confused qq From the OP HuK <Tal'Darim Altar> Virus asd <Antiga Shipyard> Zenio Winner of First Match <Terminus RE> Winner of Second Match Loser of First Match <Daybreak> Loser of Second Match Final Match on: Bel'shir Beach | ||
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frequency
Australia1901 Posts
Ah, he just said. asd 200 zenio 150 | ||
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MetalSlug
Germany443 Posts
On September 21 2011 20:58 Supamang wrote: if this is a response to the Virus vs Huk game, I really dont know what to say. Virus pulled half his SCVs for the first attack, then the rest for his second attack. Both are very all-in moves Its kinda sad that Huk losing 1 immortal is much more significant than Virus losing 1 tank so All-ins can be All-ins even tho they are not All-ins because a second push with even more SCVs is coming ? do you not understand the meaning of >>>All<<< IN ? Virus lost his first push, if he was indeed all-in the game would have been over. What really happend was that Virus executed a deadly Timing push that failed but did enaugh dmg for him to follow up with another push that he xexcuted as an All-in. Huk on the other side was also All-in because he pulled all his workers too... | ||
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