EPT[GSL] Code S RO32 Day 2 - Page 112
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Oboeman
Canada3980 Posts
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ineq
Sweden376 Posts
On September 21 2011 21:00 CortoMontez wrote: Actually I think the fingers represented 1-1-1 that could be it to, you're right. top3 control is more of an insult though, i think that's what i thought of first. It's probably 1-1-1 now that i think of it. | ||
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ihasaKAROT
Netherlands4730 Posts
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AxionSteel
United States7754 Posts
On September 21 2011 21:04 Spectorials wrote: I think that Zenio outplayed him for 95% of this game but is still going to lose T_T? Not at all, asd has had exceptional macro the entire game, he was even way up on supply in the early game. He won a few battles, but really strong macro won out in the end. | ||
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tomatriedes
New Zealand5356 Posts
On September 21 2011 20:52 mTw|NarutO wrote: I just let him know how retarded his behaviour is and that its not how you should post on Teamliquid. There's a long post about how this community is run and should work and the 'veterans' should point out things from newer posters. I have >10000 posts, he has less than 1000. Maybe he's not aware that this is not the way he should post. Even if he posts "sorry admins" its not a free to bash card. If you have any problems with my attitude, you can PM me. I just think there should be a general rule about that. I really think it's better if reporting happens anonymously otherwise we're going to have people posting 'reported!' and stupid stuff like that. Anyway let's not argue about it. It's something the mods need to decide I guess. | ||
Teoita
Italy12246 Posts
On September 21 2011 21:03 MetalSlug wrote: so All-ins can be All-ins even tho they are not All-ins because a second push with even more SCVs is coming ? do you not understand the meaning of >>>All<<< IN ? Virus lost his first push, if he was indeed all-in the game would have been over. What really happend was that Virus executed a deadly Timing push that failed but did enaugh dmg for him to follow up with another push that he xexcuted as an All-in. Huk on the other side was also All-in because he pulled all his workers too... And that is the problem with pvt 1base builds that do nothing to try and get a better econ past 24 ish workers (ie allins). You can potentially hold the first weave of units, but they always kill enough stuff that you die to the second. Compare this to a 4gate: if you hold the first 11 or so units (the 3 you make plus the 8 you warp in with the first 2 cycles) you win, protoss can't just make a bunch of units and kill you 3 minutes later. Which is why people qq. | ||
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fixed_point
Germany4891 Posts
On September 21 2011 21:05 ViperPL wrote: Oh look, I build mass marine and win  To be fair he microed them very well and Zenio microed his units badly | ||
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poorcloud
Singapore2748 Posts
On September 21 2011 21:04 ragnorr wrote: Not really, they have been on equal mining bases most of the game, not to mention zenio hates mutas and keeps throwing them away Agreed. Zenio has been winning the battles but ASD is winning the war by trading cost efficiently and ensuring zerg stays on equal bases. | ||
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Demonace34
United States2493 Posts
On September 21 2011 21:04 Demonace34 wrote: 20:10 Sieges the gold base again. Drop going to the clear the bottom right base, getting ton of drones. Zenio is having problems keeping his economy running. 22:30 Zenio goes in for a big attack, and loses many ling/banes. asd has 3/2 on the way for his bio and +2 weapons for his tanks. asd pushing into Zenios 3rd. Zenio having a hard time cleaning up the Terran army at the front of his natural. | ||
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Jezdog
308 Posts
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Tenox
Sweden128 Posts
On September 21 2011 20:57 mTw|NarutO wrote: How can I be biased towards Protoss? I am Terran. And what happened was Marine/Tank rolled 3 Gate Robo and for me thats perfectly fine. Marines are high DPS, low HP units that need to get countered by splash damage. If its through own tanks (aka enough zealots and good force fields so Terran has actually to focus fire with tanks) or with colossus OR overwhelming forces. Huk had neither and made mistakes so he lost the game. :/ Really people should start thinking before posting. Well your analysis is slightly incorrect, there was never a big enough window of time during the game where he could get out colossi safely, not even after he defended the first all-in...Even if he did another build it still wouldn't be possible vs these typ of all-ins. | ||
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McBrungus
United States265 Posts
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oogieogie
United States3657 Posts
On September 21 2011 21:05 AxionSteel wrote: Not at all, asd has had exceptional macro the entire game, he was even way up on supply in the early game. He won a few battles, but really strong macro won out in the end. no offense, but the really strong macro is probably more of terran having the gold with mules on it. | ||
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Gh86
646 Posts
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marttorn
Norway5211 Posts
Please, I hate it when people pretend like they always know better than top top level players | ||
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DiViD
Sweden222 Posts
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samaNo4
Spain245 Posts
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ThePianoDentist
United Kingdom698 Posts
On September 21 2011 20:50 poorcloud wrote: Why all the whine, huk could have won that if he just kept his immortals at the 3rd and flanked when virus attacked. He was floating like 300 gas so he cld have made 3 sentries and blocked the marines (you need sentries to hold) The more such all ins i watch, the closer i feel that protosses can hold it.(Refer to mkp vs jyp in up and down and how jyp held the 1st push despite losing like 10 probes to hellions) The required skills to hold it are going to become apparent to these pros soon enough, and this all in style of terran will go out of flavour soon. agreed but the whole problem is it's not an all-in. an all-in should be tricky to hold but if you do manage to hold it's pretty much gg. whereas terran doesn't have all-ins because of marines and mules, it can always recover. so a terran might as well always 'all-in' because at worst they come out even while usually they outright win. | ||
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Demonace34
United States2493 Posts
On September 21 2011 21:05 Demonace34 wrote: 22:30 Zenio goes in for a big attack, and loses many ling/banes. asd has 3/2 on the way for his bio and +2 weapons for his tanks. asd pushing into Zenios 3rd. Zenio having a hard time cleaning up the Terran army at the front of his natural. 24:50 Zenio loses his 3rd, asd's production is starting to get out of hand. Drops going to the bottom right again, cleaning out some drones. 11 o clock main going up for asd. More drops coming up also. | ||
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jackdaleaper
Philippines1216 Posts
On September 21 2011 21:05 AxionSteel wrote: Not at all, asd has had exceptional macro the entire game, he was even way up on supply in the early game. He won a few battles, but really strong macro won out in the end. Nope Zenio had a lot of mistakes (losing his mutas, not having enough banelings, etc.) asd played the cleaner game and basically has this game won | ||
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