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Obligatory public note for all large tournament threads:

The following is a list of behaviors that will get immediate bans:

1. Whining about stream
2. Bashing other games
3. Flaming other users
4. Bashing players
5. Complaining about imbalance.

It is in no way complete. Keep in mind that there's a difference between pointing out that the SC2 and CoD streams were switched and whining about it (same thing on pointing out/asking about stream lag and whining about it, etc.). Also, just because you post something and aren't immediately banned for it doesn't mean you won't get caught. We'll be going through this thread very carefully.

That being said, enjoy today's games!

Time stamp: page 38, 6:23.
Obstbaum
Profile Joined July 2010
Switzerland224 Posts
August 27 2011 02:27 GMT
#7681
On August 27 2011 11:25 Irave wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2011 11:24 Enki wrote:
EG.IdrA defeats Liquid'Haypro 2-0 to secure his first victory of the day at #MLG Raleigh.
Haypro T_T

Sad news, but I think most people expected this from Haypro.


hes not out!!!!! not yet
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
August 27 2011 02:27 GMT
#7682
Hwangsin wins 2-1 over VileState in OWR2

Hwangsin doin well too.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
August 27 2011 02:27 GMT
#7683
On August 27 2011 11:26 Grettin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2011 11:25 Telcontar wrote:
On August 27 2011 11:24 MooMooMugi wrote:
Is that Idra behind HuK? :D EG buddies at last

According to IdrA, they get on really well on a personal level.


And according to Huk too.


their buddy-buddy'ness is ruining e-sports. where is the drama?
ptbl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6074 Posts
August 27 2011 02:27 GMT
#7684
sheth goes 3-0, but none of his games were stream...
Don't mind me
Zane
Profile Joined January 2011
Romania3916 Posts
August 27 2011 02:27 GMT
#7685
On August 27 2011 11:26 Obstbaum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2011 11:24 MooMooMugi wrote:
Is that Idra behind HuK? :D EG buddies at last


when those guys team up theres nothing stopping them...not even the koreans

You know, if they play 2v1 they might actually win this tournament.
Sleight
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
2471 Posts
August 27 2011 02:27 GMT
#7686
So far in pool play here is how the non Koreigns are doing by team:

Dignitas 10-6
EG 4-10
Liquid 2-8 (excluding Sheth2:0Ret because that is just 2-2)
Root 3-4
FXO 0-4
RGN 2:0

This is everything on MLG's website. Seems Dig is top. EG is 2-0 over Liquid in matches, with only Sheth having won any games for them (2-0 vs moonan). Root, FXO, and RGN, only have one player reporting for them each, but I included them for fairness sake.

One Love
Mordiford
Profile Joined April 2011
4448 Posts
August 27 2011 02:27 GMT
#7687
Machine took a game off Bomber.

Interesting.
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10011 Posts
August 27 2011 02:27 GMT
#7688
is anyone else dissapointed that there are games going on which arnt being broadcasted? was hoping to watch more matchs
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
blooblooblahblah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4163 Posts
August 27 2011 02:27 GMT
#7689
Bomber 2 - 1 Machine

Couple of close calls for Bomber today
Ganzi beat me without stim. Ostojiy beat me with a nydus. Siphonn beat me with probes. Revival beat my sentry-immortal all-in.
Turenne
Profile Joined January 2011
331 Posts
August 27 2011 02:28 GMT
#7690
On August 27 2011 11:26 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2011 11:24 Pirat6662001 wrote:
On August 27 2011 11:19 dAPhREAk wrote:
On August 27 2011 11:17 Pirat6662001 wrote:
On August 27 2011 11:13 dAPhREAk wrote:
On August 27 2011 11:12 Pirat6662001 wrote:
On August 27 2011 11:10 dAPhREAk wrote:
On August 27 2011 11:09 Quotidian wrote:
I'm sorry to say this, but the current korean dominance is killing the enjoyment of western tournaments for me. There's just no one to root for, because no one seems to have a chance.


kiwikaki, naniwa, huk.... what are you talking about?

When is the last time they won? I agree with original poster. I love to see Koreans be in foreign tourney, but not to dominate. Right now we are basicaly giving money away to support Korean esports.


kiwi beat nada today. naniwa is a beast and is practicing in korea now; showing some great improvement. huk is in code s ro8 so.....

k, Rotterdam stated on his twiter that MC alone has about 100k from western touneys, Puma has another 57k. Those two players alone made more from western scene than we did from theirs


he asked who to root for. i gave him names of good players. what are you talking about? your post seems a little xenophobic.

K, please provide the evidence of xenophobia, or are facts so threatening that they count as racism now?


xenophobic is not racism; its fear. your post implies that you fear if koreans are invited that they will keep taking all the prize money. although that may be a rational fear. ;-)


Umm no, try that one again.
humbre
Profile Joined August 2011
353 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-27 02:29:44
August 27 2011 02:28 GMT
#7691
On August 27 2011 11:22 Maghetti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2011 11:12 hitpoint wrote:
On August 27 2011 11:09 Quotidian wrote:
I'm sorry to say this, but the current korean dominance is killing the enjoyment of western tournaments for me. There's just no one to root for, because no one seems to have a chance.


I won't stop watching. But I basically agree that tournaments are far less enjoyable with Koreans always winning. Sorry, it's the truth.

Not a problem for me because I root for most of the koreans over most of the foreigners :D


me too, they are superior players and produce way better games. Boggles mu mind that somebody would prefer to watch naniwa vs idra over MC vs Nestea in the finals of MLZG only because they are foreigners
CEPEHDREI
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany1521 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-27 02:28:16
August 27 2011 02:28 GMT
#7692
On August 27 2011 11:23 Quotidian wrote:
It's funny how people are tourning this into a race issue.. I don't root for players because of their skin color or their nationality (though I will be more interested in - say - swedish players, considering I'm norwegian) I don't have any problems with the better players winning.. it just seems to me that the western SC2 scene is becoming less and less vital the more Koreans show just how much better they are. As someone else pointed out, a tournament is inherently going to be less exciting when you know beforehand that the top finalists are going to be Korean? Why watch one-sided games with less skilled players when you can just go straight to the highest tier and watch the GSL? Why have western tournaments that will in the end only be lining the pockets of Korean players, when we can already observe the highest level of play elsewhere?


then go to small lans and watch sc2 there. or ask the foreign players to go to the small lans if theyre not good enough to compete at the biggest stage. I wanna see the best of the best battle it out and not some bad games by foreigners against each other.
LegendaryZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1583 Posts
August 27 2011 02:28 GMT
#7693
On August 27 2011 11:16 Heavenly wrote:
I always lol at people who say it's such a disappointment when koreans beat foreigners. Why? Because their skin is white? Why do people from the US somehow lump themselves together with people from the Ukraine and Sweden? With Chinese players and Latin American players? Just makes no sense. "Korean" esports are now becoming esports throughout the world with their participation in foreign tournaments and foreign participation in their tournaments, this isn't Brood War. Tons of Koreans are joining foreigner teams and there are tons of mergers going on.

So silly, I really can't think of anything other than skin color that makes Korea different. People love it when good Swedes dominate but if it's Koreans, oh no this tournament is so boring I wish foreigners would win. Koreans are attempting to integrate themselves into the international scene to become recognizable players you can root for through things like participation in MLG and whole teams going for qualifiers and TL Opens, but when a Korean wins these people grumble inexplicably.


I really think you're reading way too much into it. There are plenty of baseball fans that will cheer for any team going up against the Yankees on a given day. It doesn't mean they hate New York or anything. It's just that the Yankees win a lot so people want to see a different outcome for a change. Obviously I'm throwing the Yankees out there as an example just because they're a really well known team. I will honestly say that I haven't followed baseball in years so I've no idea how relevant it actually is, but I think it's a good enough example to get the point across.
theteam
Profile Joined January 2011
United States515 Posts
August 27 2011 02:28 GMT
#7694
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Charger
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2405 Posts
August 27 2011 02:28 GMT
#7695
On August 27 2011 11:27 Sleight wrote:
So far in pool play here is how the non Koreigns are doing by team:

Dignitas 10-6
EG 4-10
Liquid 2-8 (excluding Sheth2:0Ret because that is just 2-2)
Root 3-4
FXO 0-4
RGN 2:0

This is everything on MLG's website. Seems Dig is top. EG is 2-0 over Liquid in matches, with only Sheth having won any games for them (2-0 vs moonan). Root, FXO, and RGN, only have one player reporting for them each, but I included them for fairness sake.



Thanks for compiling this
It's easy to be a Monday morning quarterback.
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
August 27 2011 02:28 GMT
#7696
On August 27 2011 11:27 Grettin wrote:
Hwangsin wins 2-1 over VileState in OWR2

Hwangsin doin well too.


Ya that was an unfortunate matchup for State so early.
imallinson
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3482 Posts
August 27 2011 02:28 GMT
#7697
On August 27 2011 11:26 GrimMind wrote:
Am I the only one who wants to see Sheth play?


No I really want to see Sheth vs. Nada. It would be great if Sheth wins his group. :D
Liquipedia
Elvedeta
Profile Joined November 2010
Portugal395 Posts
August 27 2011 02:28 GMT
#7698
MLGSC2Scores: Bomber wins 2-1 over Machine in Pool B.

Still not that bad for machine.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
August 27 2011 02:28 GMT
#7699
MLGSC2Scores Major League Gaming
Bomber wins 2-1 over Machine in Pool B

MLGSC2Scores Major League Gaming
SLush450 wins 2-0 over LiquidTLO in Pool C
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
havox_
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany442 Posts
August 27 2011 02:28 GMT
#7700
On August 27 2011 11:24 benjammin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2011 11:19 TheRPGAddict wrote:
On August 27 2011 11:16 Heavenly wrote:
I always lol at people who say it's such a disappointment when koreans beat foreigners. Why? Because their skin is white? Why do people from the US somehow lump themselves together with people from the Ukraine and Sweden? With Chinese players and Latin American players? Just makes no sense. "Korean" esports are now becoming esports throughout the world with their participation in foreign tournaments and foreign participation in their tournaments, this isn't Brood War. Tons of Koreans are joining foreigner teams and there are tons of mergers going on.

So silly, I really can't think of anything other than skin color that makes Korea different. People love it when good Swedes dominate but if it's Koreans, oh no this tournament is so boring I wish foreigners would win.
I agree, I root for players specifically not nationalities. I think rooting for foreigners or being a fan of foreigners for the sake of them being a foreigner is just nonsensical. I don't think I will ever understand it. Whenever someone posts the "foreigners fighting" slogan for GSL events I grow a brain tumor.


i'm assuming you weren't around for BW scene..

Or hes actually somebody who really just likes to watch amazing matches and wants the best player to win?^^
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