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Obligatory public note for all large tournament threads:

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1. Whining about stream
2. Bashing other games
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4. Bashing players
5. Complaining about imbalance.

It is in no way complete. Keep in mind that there's a difference between pointing out that the SC2 and CoD streams were switched and whining about it (same thing on pointing out/asking about stream lag and whining about it, etc.). Also, just because you post something and aren't immediately banned for it doesn't mean you won't get caught. We'll be going through this thread very carefully.

That being said, enjoy today's games!

Time stamp: page 38, 6:23.
Maghetti
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2429 Posts
August 27 2011 02:22 GMT
#7641
On August 27 2011 11:12 hitpoint wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2011 11:09 Quotidian wrote:
I'm sorry to say this, but the current korean dominance is killing the enjoyment of western tournaments for me. There's just no one to root for, because no one seems to have a chance.


I won't stop watching. But I basically agree that tournaments are far less enjoyable with Koreans always winning. Sorry, it's the truth.

Not a problem for me because I root for most of the koreans over most of the foreigners :D
Rococo
Profile Joined May 2011
United States331 Posts
August 27 2011 02:23 GMT
#7642
On August 27 2011 11:19 TheRPGAddict wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2011 11:16 Heavenly wrote:
I always lol at people who say it's such a disappointment when koreans beat foreigners. Why? Because their skin is white? Why do people from the US somehow lump themselves together with people from the Ukraine and Sweden? With Chinese players and Latin American players? Just makes no sense. "Korean" esports are now becoming esports throughout the world with their participation in foreign tournaments and foreign participation in their tournaments, this isn't Brood War. Tons of Koreans are joining foreigner teams and there are tons of mergers going on.

So silly, I really can't think of anything other than skin color that makes Korea different. People love it when good Swedes dominate but if it's Koreans, oh no this tournament is so boring I wish foreigners would win.
I agree, I root for players specifically not nationalities. I think rooting for foreigners or being a fan of foreigners for the sake of them being a foreigner is just nonsensical. I don't think I will ever understand it. Whenever someone posts the "foreigners fighting" slogan for GSL events I grow a brain tumor.


Glad I'm not the only one who feels this way. The best players happen to be Korean because they practice harder and sacrifice more for their play, and there's absolutely nothing undesirable about seeing the most deserving players win.
Quotidian
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway1937 Posts
August 27 2011 02:23 GMT
#7643
It's funny how people are tourning this into a race issue.. I don't root for players because of their skin color or their nationality (though I will be more interested in - say - swedish players, considering I'm norwegian) I don't have any problems with the better players winning.. it just seems to me that the western SC2 scene is becoming less and less vital the more Koreans show just how much better they are. As someone else pointed out, a tournament is inherently going to be less exciting when you know beforehand that the top finalists are going to be Korean? Why watch one-sided games with less skilled players when you can just go straight to the highest tier and watch the GSL? Why have western tournaments that will in the end only be lining the pockets of Korean players, when we can already observe the highest level of play elsewhere?
fone
Profile Joined June 2011
193 Posts
August 27 2011 02:23 GMT
#7644
On August 27 2011 11:20 Irave wrote:
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On August 27 2011 11:19 fone wrote:
On August 27 2011 11:16 EtohEtoh wrote:
Machine and Idra are indeed switching places it seems

I'd love to see that.

Distracting Idra with lifting weights while holding special practice sessions with Puma.

Don't wanna sound rude but somehow it looks like Idra is doing more "rl stuff" than ever since he got his gf.
feanor1
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1899 Posts
August 27 2011 02:23 GMT
#7645
On August 27 2011 11:21 Mohdoo wrote:
Why do they call PainUser a pro player? :x

Probably because he was like top 10 every event last year, and this was filmed a few months ago
DR.Ham
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands621 Posts
August 27 2011 02:23 GMT
#7646
On August 27 2011 11:16 Heavenly wrote:
I always lol at people who say it's such a disappointment when koreans beat foreigners. Why? Because their skin is white? Why do people from the US somehow lump themselves together with people from the Ukraine and Sweden? With Chinese players and Latin American players? Just makes no sense. "Korean" esports are now becoming esports throughout the world with their participation in foreign tournaments and foreign participation in their tournaments, this isn't Brood War. Tons of Koreans are joining foreigner teams and there are tons of mergers going on.

So silly, I really can't think of anything other than skin color that makes Korea different. People love it when good Swedes dominate but if it's Koreans, oh no this tournament is so boring I wish foreigners would win. Koreans are attempting to integrate themselves into the international scene to become recognizable players you can root for through things like participation in MLG and whole teams going for qualifiers and TL Opens, but when a Korean wins these people grumble inexplicably.



I think this is because people in general want the underdog to win.
Highwinds
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada955 Posts
August 27 2011 02:23 GMT
#7647
This Shibby guy always seemed like such a tool to me -.-

Sorry but in every single video it seems like the person hes with is so awkward.............
I guess I don't know the guy at all but the things he says just annoy me
Yes It's a Good Day. 저는 아이유 사랑해요!
Frugalicious
Profile Joined June 2010
United States121 Posts
August 27 2011 02:23 GMT
#7648
On August 27 2011 11:21 Mohdoo wrote:
Why do they call PainUser a pro player? :x


That is a very old video. That was when PainUser was still actively playing in MLG/NASL.
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
August 27 2011 02:23 GMT
#7649
On August 27 2011 11:22 Jacobs Ladder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2011 11:18 DystopiaX wrote:
On August 27 2011 11:16 Heavenly wrote:
I always lol at people who say it's such a disappointment when koreans beat foreigners. Why? Because their skin is white? Why do people from the US somehow lump themselves together with people from the Ukraine and Sweden? With Chinese players and Latin American players? Just makes no sense. "Korean" esports are now becoming esports throughout the world with their participation in foreign tournaments and foreign participation in their tournaments, this isn't Brood War. Tons of Koreans are joining foreigner teams and there are tons of mergers going on.

So silly, I really can't think of anything other than skin color that makes Korea different. People love it when good Swedes dominate but if it's Koreans, oh no this tournament is such a boring roflstomp.

Totally agree with this, although I wouldn't have put it as well as you did. Don't get all the anti-Korean sentiment when they play so much better than everyone else.

They do, but I love me some underdogs. Its the same reason I root for "bad" sports teams a lot of the time. Its awesome when someone who works really hard but isn't expecting results sees pay off!

Only in this case the Koreans clearly work harder...I too root for hard working underdogs, unfortunately only a select few foreigners practice as hard as Koreans, and those are the ones who practice in Korea lol
Pirat6662001
Profile Joined January 2011
Russian Federation949 Posts
August 27 2011 02:24 GMT
#7650
On August 27 2011 11:19 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2011 11:17 Pirat6662001 wrote:
On August 27 2011 11:13 dAPhREAk wrote:
On August 27 2011 11:12 Pirat6662001 wrote:
On August 27 2011 11:10 dAPhREAk wrote:
On August 27 2011 11:09 Quotidian wrote:
I'm sorry to say this, but the current korean dominance is killing the enjoyment of western tournaments for me. There's just no one to root for, because no one seems to have a chance.


kiwikaki, naniwa, huk.... what are you talking about?

When is the last time they won? I agree with original poster. I love to see Koreans be in foreign tourney, but not to dominate. Right now we are basicaly giving money away to support Korean esports.


kiwi beat nada today. naniwa is a beast and is practicing in korea now; showing some great improvement. huk is in code s ro8 so.....

k, Rotterdam stated on his twiter that MC alone has about 100k from western touneys, Puma has another 57k. Those two players alone made more from western scene than we did from theirs


he asked who to root for. i gave him names of good players. what are you talking about? your post seems a little xenophobic.

K, please provide the evidence of xenophobia, or are facts so threatening that they count as racism now?
So.. this Earth, nice planet you might say- WRONG!!
Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
August 27 2011 02:24 GMT
#7651
On August 27 2011 11:23 Highwinds wrote:
This Shibby guy always seemed like such a tool to me -.-

Sorry but in every single video it seems like the person hes with is so awkward.............
I guess I don't know the guy at all but the things he says just annoy me

There seems to be a lot of irrational hate here.
benjammin
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2728 Posts
August 27 2011 02:24 GMT
#7652
On August 27 2011 11:19 TheRPGAddict wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2011 11:16 Heavenly wrote:
I always lol at people who say it's such a disappointment when koreans beat foreigners. Why? Because their skin is white? Why do people from the US somehow lump themselves together with people from the Ukraine and Sweden? With Chinese players and Latin American players? Just makes no sense. "Korean" esports are now becoming esports throughout the world with their participation in foreign tournaments and foreign participation in their tournaments, this isn't Brood War. Tons of Koreans are joining foreigner teams and there are tons of mergers going on.

So silly, I really can't think of anything other than skin color that makes Korea different. People love it when good Swedes dominate but if it's Koreans, oh no this tournament is so boring I wish foreigners would win.
I agree, I root for players specifically not nationalities. I think rooting for foreigners or being a fan of foreigners for the sake of them being a foreigner is just nonsensical. I don't think I will ever understand it. Whenever someone posts the "foreigners fighting" slogan for GSL events I grow a brain tumor.


i'm assuming you weren't around for BW scene..
wash uffitizi, drive me to firenze
hysterial
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2044 Posts
August 27 2011 02:24 GMT
#7653

On August 27 2011 11:09 Quotidian wrote:
I'm sorry to say this, but the current korean dominance is killing the enjoyment of western tournaments for me. There's just no one to root for, because no one seems to have a chance.


Maybe root for good player then? And not base it on race?
Jinivus
Profile Joined July 2011
747 Posts
August 27 2011 02:24 GMT
#7654
On August 27 2011 11:23 DR.Ham wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2011 11:16 Heavenly wrote:
I always lol at people who say it's such a disappointment when koreans beat foreigners. Why? Because their skin is white? Why do people from the US somehow lump themselves together with people from the Ukraine and Sweden? With Chinese players and Latin American players? Just makes no sense. "Korean" esports are now becoming esports throughout the world with their participation in foreign tournaments and foreign participation in their tournaments, this isn't Brood War. Tons of Koreans are joining foreigner teams and there are tons of mergers going on.

So silly, I really can't think of anything other than skin color that makes Korea different. People love it when good Swedes dominate but if it's Koreans, oh no this tournament is so boring I wish foreigners would win. Koreans are attempting to integrate themselves into the international scene to become recognizable players you can root for through things like participation in MLG and whole teams going for qualifiers and TL Opens, but when a Korean wins these people grumble inexplicably.



I think this is because people in general want the underdog to win.

If you really care about the underdog that much, you realize in a korean vs korean match there are underdogs too? Root for that person.
bumwithagun
Profile Joined January 2011
United States153 Posts
August 27 2011 02:24 GMT
#7655
aw idrA and Huk hanging out
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
August 27 2011 02:24 GMT
#7656
I always get a white "no stream" on blue ground for the red stream, does anyone know a solution?
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
absalom86
Profile Joined April 2010
Iceland1770 Posts
August 27 2011 02:24 GMT
#7657
Does any player on Europe want to help me make a video detailing which sound effects cancel out nuke warning sound so I can make a thread about it here on TL ?
Thief @ #teamliquid @ Quakenet
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
August 27 2011 02:24 GMT
#7658
Is that Idra behind HuK? :D EG buddies at last
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
Enki
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States2548 Posts
August 27 2011 02:24 GMT
#7659
EG.IdrA defeats Liquid'Haypro 2-0 to secure his first victory of the day at #MLG Raleigh.
Haypro T_T
"Practice, practice, practice. And when you're not practicing you should be practicing. It's the only way to get better. The only way." I run the Smix Fanclub!
sechkie
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States334 Posts
August 27 2011 02:24 GMT
#7660
Anyone think that tester palyed dongraegu game 1 kind of BWesque? with vr to pull the hydras around while playing very chargelot heavy? Kind of similar to the bw style? althoug this would definitely just die to infestors.
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