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IPL 3: Origins - Online Qualifier #2 - Page 5

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Devolved
Profile Joined April 2008
United States2753 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-31 23:02:42
August 31 2011 23:01 GMT
#81
On September 01 2011 06:26 Derity wrote:
i think that quite are few europe player are considering to travel to the live event. 16 slots are available.

chances are rather low for them to win an open qualifier stacked with high profile koreans when it can assumed that not many koreans will show up at the live qualifier.

You're assuming not many Koreans will show up, but nobody actually knows. Plus, the bracket is going to be much larger at the live event (@256 players vs. 64 players in Qualifer 1) and you will have to pay your own travel, lodging and food expenses and not be guaranteed any prize money.

It's not like there's a hundred Koreans in each qualifier either. A handful of Koreans are willing to spend 20 bucks to try to win these benefits (and they have to deal with worse hours than any other region), but somehow even less Europeans are willing to try. Seems to me this would indicate that Koreans would also be more willing to travel to the open tourney. 20 bucks and adjusting your sleep schedule for 1 or 2 days does not seem like it should be a big deal for a pro gamer. Honestly, this sort of thing should be expected of them when a huge international tourney rolls around and it's why I'm completely baffled that the Euro pro teams like Mouz, Empire, Dignitas, etc. aren't jumping all over this.
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Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
August 31 2011 23:36 GMT
#82
For EU fans, YoanM is probably [M]ToD
Derity
Profile Joined May 2009
Germany2952 Posts
August 31 2011 23:47 GMT
#83
i guess quite a few players are in vacation too like HasuObs since we dont have any major events in september.
CatsPajamas
Profile Joined October 2010
United States337 Posts
September 01 2011 03:59 GMT
#84
OH SNAP, DongRaeGu, Genius, AnyPro, Trickster, and Rainbow signed up today.
http://twitter.com/kevinknocke
tychusfuddley
Profile Joined February 2011
Vanuatu39 Posts
September 01 2011 04:04 GMT
#85
man any NA or EU pros who sign up for this qualifiers have balls of steel lol.. fucking drg and optimus prime are beast, all koreans are just on another lvl . one up for the western pros who sign up for this
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
September 01 2011 04:09 GMT
#86
On September 01 2011 12:59 CatsPajamas wrote:
OH SNAP, DongRaeGu, Genius, AnyPro, Trickster, and Rainbow signed up today.


Holy nice!! Dammit, I want mkp and drg to qualify...hope they're on opposite sides of the bracket!!
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
Corrik
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1416 Posts
September 01 2011 06:17 GMT
#87
I feel like those people on the fence about joining due to the lack of Koreans should look at the popularity some players got for upsetting big names. This is a chance to get your name out there.
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-01 08:47:31
September 01 2011 08:45 GMT
#88
Is $20 really that big of a deal for pro NA/EU players, or is there some scheduling conflict with MLG, NASL, Dreamhack or another tournament that is not obvious?

If the former, well, it seems that just as a huge amount of money is being pumped into NA/EU eSports, the pro-scene in NA/EU is dying. It can't look good to the sponsors to run a 1000 players qualifiers and have only ~50 people show up - that doesn't demonstrate a lot of interest from the pro-gamers, and without the pro-gamers, where's the scene?

I mean, I understand that $20 might be a little too much for amateurs. But the NA/EU teams should have no issues sponsoring their players for $20.
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-01 09:40:48
September 01 2011 09:29 GMT
#89
Oh, the MVP team also signed up! However only Tails, Genius and Dongraegu.
Guess they also only signed those up who think they have a decent shot at the prize.

edit:

On September 01 2011 17:45 Azarkon wrote:
Is $20 really that big of a deal for pro NA/EU players, or is there some scheduling conflict with MLG, NASL, Dreamhack or another tournament that is not obvious?

If the former, well, it seems that just as a huge amount of money is being pumped into NA/EU eSports, the pro-scene in NA/EU is dying. It can't look good to the sponsors to run a 1000 players qualifiers and have only ~50 people show up - that doesn't demonstrate a lot of interest from the pro-gamers, and without the pro-gamers, where's the scene?

I mean, I understand that $20 might be a little too much for amateurs. But the NA/EU teams should have no issues sponsoring their players for $20.


I don't know, but I guess they judge it to be money thrown out of the window,
because they think that with that lineup there is no way their players would manage to finish top 2.
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
September 01 2011 11:40 GMT
#90
dimaaaaaagaaaa signed :D
Stork[gm]
wklbishop
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1286 Posts
September 01 2011 12:31 GMT
#91
DongRaeGu, Tails, and Genius in. This qualifier is getting more and more stacked. I wonder how many players would start having second thoughts by the time the player list is done.
Gameplay > Personality
Joshy.IGN
Profile Joined May 2011
United States530 Posts
September 01 2011 17:56 GMT
#92
Right now we've got 11 known Koreans out of 35 total registrations. I never thought I'd say this but I'd really love to see more North American and European involvement in this North American event! =P
IGN eSports Community Marketing Manager || http://www.ign.com/ipl
Devolved
Profile Joined April 2008
United States2753 Posts
September 01 2011 18:01 GMT
#93
I'm guessing they would have had a much better turn-out if they would have done regional qualifiers. It would have fixed pretty much every issue that are causing people to not sign up, including the time when it is played, the server lag, and the Korean fear-factor. It would also give a better all-around international line-up instead of [most likely] having Koreans take all the online qualifier spots.
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legaton
Profile Joined December 2010
France1763 Posts
September 01 2011 18:21 GMT
#94
It really says a lot about the foreign "scene" that only 24 persons trust their abilities enough to go through a qualifier. 20 dollars in exchange of a shot of 1000, + plane tickets + hotel accommodations + a spot in a huge tournament doesn't look like a bad deal. I hope all the spots will be taken by hard-working koreans, and i hope they will show just how much better they are than the so-called "foreign pros"
No GG, No Skill - Jaedong <3
Kieofire
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1809 Posts
September 01 2011 18:43 GMT
#95
Nice DRG is in this!
SigmaoctanusIV
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States3313 Posts
September 01 2011 18:46 GMT
#96
No Liquid guys have signed up for this so far T__T. Hope to see the team all compete here Sheth got so far last time!
I am Godzilla You are Japan
Finrod1
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany3997 Posts
September 01 2011 18:49 GMT
#97
So the europeans so far are:

ToD
Strelok
DIMAGA
Demuslim (yeah he is still euro^^)
SarenS
Socke

that's pretty sad that not more players are trying...
stephano, bratok, whitera, nerchio, mana, goody, hasuobs, darkforce, tarson, ret, morrow.... ? really not even trying. pretty dissappointed by those guys.
Kieofire
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1809 Posts
September 01 2011 18:51 GMT
#98
On September 02 2011 03:49 Finrod1 wrote:
So the europeans so far are:

ToD
Strelok
DIMAGA
Demuslim (yeah he is still euro^^)
SarenS
Socke

that's pretty sad that not more players are trying...
stephano, bratok, whitera, nerchio, mana, goody, hasuobs, darkforce, tarson, ret, morrow.... ? really not even trying. pretty dissappointed by those guys.


White-Ra is already invited to the live event.
Synche
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1345 Posts
September 01 2011 19:01 GMT
#99
It's pretty obvious why there's not many NA or EU players, with the caliber of Koreans joining the only people that have a shot are the very best the foreigners have to offer. Anything else won't even be competitive, so its 20 bucks down the drain.
Finrod1
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany3997 Posts
September 01 2011 19:04 GMT
#100
On September 02 2011 04:01 SimDawg wrote:
It's pretty obvious why there's not many NA or EU players, with the caliber of Koreans joining the only people that have a shot are the very best the foreigners have to offer. Anything else won't even be competitive, so its 20 bucks down the drain.


even if you give yourself a 10% chance vs a topkorean i would take it. i mean you pay 20$ for a chance of 35k (?) ?!
And as a manager i would tell everyone of my players to participate at least....
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