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On August 10 2011 16:43 Downside wrote:
I really wish Moletrap and Wolf, moreso Moletrap than Wolf, would stop making sure to point out every possible excuse for the foreigners. Then also trying to give them points for not getting completely owned when they lose close. It makes the foreigner scene seem so weak. Even if they get totally bashed like they did tonight for the most part we should have the respect to hold them to a standard where losing isn't good enough. You don't have to bash them or go hard on them, but don't look to force out compliments in games that they lose. It really irks me cause it does more harm than good in terms of trying to get people to feel like foreigners can compete.
They are giving out quite a few "A for effort" ribbons aren't they. Next thing you know, they'll get kudos for getting in the right booth.
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What a terrible day for international Starcraft. 
Jinro proves that the system works as intended. He was ahead of the curve 8-9 months back but has steadily fallen behind as everyone else got better and better. That he's now out of the GSL is appropriate with the success and level of play he's shown.
Thorzain is a beast, he looked really great out there and could have totally taken that series. It's too bad that he won't be there for the next Code A season,but I'm expecting great things from him in the GSTL.
SaSe looked disappointing, but his interview prior to the event gives me hope. He's going to stay, he's going to improve and he's going to show results, no doubt about that. I only fear that his showing today prevents him from getting a good offer from one of the teams there (because they're not aware of his actual level of play).
Naniwa also played below par, and Check handled it well. Same as T-Zain, looking forward to his GSTL performances as his level increases because of the Korean training.
We've had a regular rollercoaster of emotions in the last couple weeks as far as NA/EU participation in the GSL is concerned. FXO looking hopeful -> FXO getting crushed -> qxc all-killing IM -> Code A August Ro32 being a slaughter.
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On August 10 2011 16:44 Yew wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2011 16:42 Liquid`Jinro wrote:On August 10 2011 16:38 NExt wrote:On August 10 2011 16:35 King of Kings wrote:On August 10 2011 16:34 NExt wrote:On August 10 2011 16:33 Harrad wrote:On August 10 2011 16:32 King of Kings wrote:
/sigh
And so Nani is our best foreigner? It's HuK. He is all alone "up there" might need idra to come back :D Nani is way better than IdrA, so IdrA wouldn't be able to win anything in Korea now. Idra is the only foreigner with results in the GSL. Jinro has come closest with a Ro4 showing in the GSL, but idra had consistency crazy foo Are you seriously retarded? IdrAs GSL results: Top 32 Top 16 Top 8 Leaves Korea My GSL results: Top 4 Top 4 Top 16 Top 32 Code A Code A Code B I dunno how the hell you can say IdrAs results in GSL are anywhere close to mine, especially when I beat him in GSL 4-1 --; IdrAs is most definitely better than me now but his GSL results are not, no fucking way. He qualified for the first seasons though
Idra qualified for the easiest seasons. Jinro was in GSL in the later stages, when it got harder. Idra left because he knew it was too hard for him and decided to grab easy foreigner money instead. Then the Koreans came, and now Idra only has IPL for making money.
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On August 10 2011 16:44 chipmonklord17 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2011 16:41 Yang Wenli wrote:On August 10 2011 16:39 King of Kings wrote:
GSL need some good foreigners if they wan't to get a bigger fanbase in EU/NA. Won't be a great promotion for GSL at BlizzCon if the upcoming Season has no foreigners left. Arguably those were the "good" foreigners if not the best we had based on achievements, rankings, and geographical scene. Honestly there's still a lot of good talent to take from Europe, wish I could say the same about America.
Its funny you say that as more players from NA have won GSL games than ones from Europe
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On August 10 2011 16:44 zeru wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2011 16:44 Yew wrote:On August 10 2011 16:42 Liquid`Jinro wrote:On August 10 2011 16:38 NExt wrote:On August 10 2011 16:35 King of Kings wrote:On August 10 2011 16:34 NExt wrote:On August 10 2011 16:33 Harrad wrote:On August 10 2011 16:32 King of Kings wrote:
/sigh
And so Nani is our best foreigner? It's HuK. He is all alone "up there" might need idra to come back :D Nani is way better than IdrA, so IdrA wouldn't be able to win anything in Korea now. Idra is the only foreigner with results in the GSL. Jinro has come closest with a Ro4 showing in the GSL, but idra had consistency crazy foo Are you seriously retarded? IdrAs GSL results: Top 32 Top 16 Top 8 Leaves Korea My GSL results: Top 4 Top 4 Top 16 Top 32 Code A Code A Code B I dunno how the hell you can say IdrAs results in GSL are anywhere close to mine, especially when I beat him in GSL 4-1 --; IdrAs is most definitely better than me now but his GSL results are not, no fucking way. He qualified for the first seasons though So did artosis and bitbybit.
Idra had been in every GSL since the first though.
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On August 10 2011 16:44 akari wrote:
People who think idra would do well are delusional at best.
Yeah, not like he's got a winning record against the only foreigner left in code S or anything. You could make the same argument against huk.
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On August 10 2011 16:43 TheKefka wrote:
How does IdrA manage to sneak into every LR thread is beyond me.
Because Jinro, IdrA, and Huk are the only foreigners to do well in GSL
But people will still dis-credit their achievements saying the game was "herp derp easier" back then.
On August 10 2011 16:45 Zzoram wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2011 16:44 Yew wrote:On August 10 2011 16:42 Liquid`Jinro wrote:On August 10 2011 16:38 NExt wrote:On August 10 2011 16:35 King of Kings wrote:On August 10 2011 16:34 NExt wrote:On August 10 2011 16:33 Harrad wrote:On August 10 2011 16:32 King of Kings wrote:
/sigh
And so Nani is our best foreigner? It's HuK. He is all alone "up there" might need idra to come back :D Nani is way better than IdrA, so IdrA wouldn't be able to win anything in Korea now. Idra is the only foreigner with results in the GSL. Jinro has come closest with a Ro4 showing in the GSL, but idra had consistency crazy foo Are you seriously retarded? IdrAs GSL results: Top 32 Top 16 Top 8 Leaves Korea My GSL results: Top 4 Top 4 Top 16 Top 32 Code A Code A Code B I dunno how the hell you can say IdrAs results in GSL are anywhere close to mine, especially when I beat him in GSL 4-1 --; IdrAs is most definitely better than me now but his GSL results are not, no fucking way. He qualified for the first seasons though Idra qualified for the easiest seasons. Jinro was in GSL in the later stages, when it got harder. Idra left because he knew it was too hard for him and decided to grab easy foreigner money instead. Then the Koreans came, and now Idra only has IPL for making money.
Wow this is some ignorant shit.
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On August 10 2011 16:45 SEANSYE wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2011 16:44 MonsieurGrimm wrote:On August 10 2011 16:44 Blitz Beat wrote:On August 10 2011 16:43 Shellshock1122 wrote:On August 10 2011 16:42 Liquid`Jinro wrote:On August 10 2011 16:38 NExt wrote:On August 10 2011 16:35 King of Kings wrote:On August 10 2011 16:34 NExt wrote:On August 10 2011 16:33 Harrad wrote:On August 10 2011 16:32 King of Kings wrote:
/sigh
And so Nani is our best foreigner? It's HuK. He is all alone "up there" might need idra to come back :D Nani is way better than IdrA, so IdrA wouldn't be able to win anything in Korea now. Idra is the only foreigner with results in the GSL. Jinro has come closest with a Ro4 showing in the GSL, but idra had consistency crazy foo Are you seriously retarded? IdrAs GSL results: Top 32 Top 16 Top 8 Leaves Korea My GSL results: Top 4 Top 4 Top 16 Top 32 Code A Code A Code B I dunno how the hell you can say IdrAs results in GSL are anywhere close to mine, especially when I beat him in GSL 4-1 --; IdrAs is most definitely better than me now but his GSL results are not, no fucking way. QFT hahahaha IdrA's rule in full effect on this thread! 10 posts until we debate best foreigner zerg DESTINY!!! destiny rule in effect. nah destiny's rule is for reddit. on TL we have idra's rule Please, neither. NesTea rule plz
unfortunately god is not a foreigner ):
the myth of Day 9!
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On August 10 2011 16:44 zeru wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2011 16:44 Yew wrote:On August 10 2011 16:42 Liquid`Jinro wrote:On August 10 2011 16:38 NExt wrote:On August 10 2011 16:35 King of Kings wrote:On August 10 2011 16:34 NExt wrote:On August 10 2011 16:33 Harrad wrote:On August 10 2011 16:32 King of Kings wrote:
/sigh
And so Nani is our best foreigner? It's HuK. He is all alone "up there" might need idra to come back :D Nani is way better than IdrA, so IdrA wouldn't be able to win anything in Korea now. Idra is the only foreigner with results in the GSL. Jinro has come closest with a Ro4 showing in the GSL, but idra had consistency crazy foo Are you seriously retarded? IdrAs GSL results: Top 32 Top 16 Top 8 Leaves Korea My GSL results: Top 4 Top 4 Top 16 Top 32 Code A Code A Code B I dunno how the hell you can say IdrAs results in GSL are anywhere close to mine, especially when I beat him in GSL 4-1 --; IdrAs is most definitely better than me now but his GSL results are not, no fucking way. He qualified for the first seasons though So did artosis and bitbybit.
Don't forget Torch
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On August 10 2011 16:42 Liquid`Jinro wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2011 16:38 NExt wrote:On August 10 2011 16:35 King of Kings wrote:On August 10 2011 16:34 NExt wrote:On August 10 2011 16:33 Harrad wrote:On August 10 2011 16:32 King of Kings wrote:
/sigh
And so Nani is our best foreigner? It's HuK. He is all alone "up there" might need idra to come back :D Nani is way better than IdrA, so IdrA wouldn't be able to win anything in Korea now. Idra is the only foreigner with results in the GSL. Jinro has come closest with a Ro4 showing in the GSL, but idra had consistency crazy foo Are you seriously retarded? IdrAs GSL results: Top 32 Top 16 Top 8 Leaves Korea My GSL results: Top 4 Top 4 Top 16 Top 32 Code A Code A Code B I dunno how the hell you can say IdrAs results in GSL are anywhere close to mine, especially when I beat him in GSL 4-1 --; IdrAs is most definitely better than me now but his GSL results are not, no fucking way. I dont think Im good right now but my GSL results were fucking good.
relax jinro everyone knows you have the best foreigner results in sc2 history. ignore the rare ignorant fucks
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On August 10 2011 16:42 tomatriedes wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2011 16:39 SxYSpAz wrote:
in naniwas defense, it wasn't his play that was bad, it was his build. stargate builds are over What other builds can protoss do? A spore colony at each base shuts down DTs, 6 gateway builds are easily scouted and stopped and faster robos are autoloss if zerg goes mutas.
Something safe? Every build you listed is a risk (aside from faster robos, which isn't autoloss btw, you can transition just fine). Sentry/blink stalker is a strong composition against any mix the zerg can send in the early midgame; you can easily start blink and expand quite safely.
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On August 10 2011 16:44 Yew wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2011 16:42 Liquid`Jinro wrote:On August 10 2011 16:38 NExt wrote:On August 10 2011 16:35 King of Kings wrote:On August 10 2011 16:34 NExt wrote:On August 10 2011 16:33 Harrad wrote:On August 10 2011 16:32 King of Kings wrote:
/sigh
And so Nani is our best foreigner? It's HuK. He is all alone "up there" might need idra to come back :D Nani is way better than IdrA, so IdrA wouldn't be able to win anything in Korea now. Idra is the only foreigner with results in the GSL. Jinro has come closest with a Ro4 showing in the GSL, but idra had consistency crazy foo Are you seriously retarded? IdrAs GSL results: Top 32 Top 16 Top 8 Leaves Korea My GSL results: Top 4 Top 4 Top 16 Top 32 Code A Code A Code B I dunno how the hell you can say IdrAs results in GSL are anywhere close to mine, especially when I beat him in GSL 4-1 --; IdrAs is most definitely better than me now but his GSL results are not, no fucking way. He qualified for the first seasons though
and yes that is better then getting top 4 twice ...
i mean really ?
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On August 10 2011 16:45 Itsmedudeman wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2011 16:41 Serpico wrote:On August 10 2011 16:39 Itsmedudeman wrote:On August 10 2011 16:38 NExt wrote:On August 10 2011 16:35 King of Kings wrote:On August 10 2011 16:34 NExt wrote:On August 10 2011 16:33 Harrad wrote:On August 10 2011 16:32 King of Kings wrote:
/sigh
And so Nani is our best foreigner? It's HuK. He is all alone "up there" might need idra to come back :D Nani is way better than IdrA, so IdrA wouldn't be able to win anything in Korea now. Idra is the only foreigner with results in the GSL. Jinro has come closest with a Ro4 showing in the GSL, but idra had consistency crazy foo Pretty sure jinro had as much consistency, idra just left sooner and seeing as how idra is still having trouble in foreigner events I doubt he could hold his own in code S anymore, let alone code A. Level of competition today is a lot different than it was months ago. lol what, he's performed better than almost any foreigner in MLGs than anyone and the only players that were close to him were huk and naniwa. Doesnt make sense. Good MLG results for a foreigner is hardly anything. He placed high in colombus but I think there were several people ahead of him at anaheim. Also outside of that he's done pretty god damn horribly and nothing really shows that he can compete with koreans at all. I don't know why you would ever think that just because of his past results in GSL months ago would set him up to be good right now considering lots of people who were doing well back then are getting knocked out as we speak.
after today it's pretty clear to see how few foreigners there are who can compete with koreans. it's really just huk and maybe some of the FXO guys like QXC. IdrA when he's practiced can as well, the EG house will do wonders for him.
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On August 10 2011 16:46 Yew wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2011 16:44 zeru wrote:On August 10 2011 16:44 Yew wrote:On August 10 2011 16:42 Liquid`Jinro wrote:On August 10 2011 16:38 NExt wrote:On August 10 2011 16:35 King of Kings wrote:On August 10 2011 16:34 NExt wrote:On August 10 2011 16:33 Harrad wrote:On August 10 2011 16:32 King of Kings wrote:
/sigh
And so Nani is our best foreigner? It's HuK. He is all alone "up there" might need idra to come back :D Nani is way better than IdrA, so IdrA wouldn't be able to win anything in Korea now. Idra is the only foreigner with results in the GSL. Jinro has come closest with a Ro4 showing in the GSL, but idra had consistency crazy foo Are you seriously retarded? IdrAs GSL results: Top 32 Top 16 Top 8 Leaves Korea My GSL results: Top 4 Top 4 Top 16 Top 32 Code A Code A Code B I dunno how the hell you can say IdrAs results in GSL are anywhere close to mine, especially when I beat him in GSL 4-1 --; IdrAs is most definitely better than me now but his GSL results are not, no fucking way. He qualified for the first seasons though So did artosis and bitbybit. Idra had been in every GSL since the first though.
omg seriously who cares what IdrA did. And the first 3 GSL were just absolute terrible.
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On August 10 2011 16:46 SafeAsCheese wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2011 16:43 TheKefka wrote:
How does IdrA manage to sneak into every LR thread is beyond me. Because Jinro, IdrA, and Huk are the only foreigners to do well in GSL But people will still dis-credit their achievements saying the game was "herp derp easier" back then.
TLO? Psh you noobs
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There are many foreigner pro-gaming team-houses forming up but I think they are insufficient. In Korea, the pro-gaming teams are interlinked quite a bit. Often, during an interview, you'll find people thanking players from other teams. The foreign scene needs to develop this networked infrastructure.
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On August 10 2011 16:45 Zzoram wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2011 16:44 Yew wrote:On August 10 2011 16:42 Liquid`Jinro wrote:On August 10 2011 16:38 NExt wrote:On August 10 2011 16:35 King of Kings wrote:On August 10 2011 16:34 NExt wrote:On August 10 2011 16:33 Harrad wrote:On August 10 2011 16:32 King of Kings wrote:
/sigh
And so Nani is our best foreigner? It's HuK. He is all alone "up there" might need idra to come back :D Nani is way better than IdrA, so IdrA wouldn't be able to win anything in Korea now. Idra is the only foreigner with results in the GSL. Jinro has come closest with a Ro4 showing in the GSL, but idra had consistency crazy foo Are you seriously retarded? IdrAs GSL results: Top 32 Top 16 Top 8 Leaves Korea My GSL results: Top 4 Top 4 Top 16 Top 32 Code A Code A Code B I dunno how the hell you can say IdrAs results in GSL are anywhere close to mine, especially when I beat him in GSL 4-1 --; IdrAs is most definitely better than me now but his GSL results are not, no fucking way. He qualified for the first seasons though Idra qualified for the easiest seasons. Jinro was in GSL in the later stages, when it got harder. Idra left because he knew it was too hard for him and decided to grab easy foreigner money instead. Then the Koreans came, and now Idra only has IPL for making money.
Idra qualified for GSL1, GSL2, GSL3, and was in code S before he left lmao. We don't know how well idra would have done in korea since he left though.
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On August 10 2011 16:46 Yew wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2011 16:44 zeru wrote:On August 10 2011 16:44 Yew wrote:On August 10 2011 16:42 Liquid`Jinro wrote:On August 10 2011 16:38 NExt wrote:On August 10 2011 16:35 King of Kings wrote:On August 10 2011 16:34 NExt wrote:On August 10 2011 16:33 Harrad wrote:On August 10 2011 16:32 King of Kings wrote:
/sigh
And so Nani is our best foreigner? It's HuK. He is all alone "up there" might need idra to come back :D Nani is way better than IdrA, so IdrA wouldn't be able to win anything in Korea now. Idra is the only foreigner with results in the GSL. Jinro has come closest with a Ro4 showing in the GSL, but idra had consistency crazy foo Are you seriously retarded? IdrAs GSL results: Top 32 Top 16 Top 8 Leaves Korea My GSL results: Top 4 Top 4 Top 16 Top 32 Code A Code A Code B I dunno how the hell you can say IdrAs results in GSL are anywhere close to mine, especially when I beat him in GSL 4-1 --; IdrAs is most definitely better than me now but his GSL results are not, no fucking way. He qualified for the first seasons though So did artosis and bitbybit. Idra had been in every GSL since the first though.
O.O
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On August 10 2011 16:46 SafeAsCheese wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2011 16:43 TheKefka wrote:
How does IdrA manage to sneak into every LR thread is beyond me. Because Jinro, IdrA, and Huk are the only foreigners to do well in GSL But people will still dis-credit their achievements saying the game was "herp derp easier" back then.
Hmmm /A terran /A protoss /A zerg
We need a name for this for when this happens.
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Just woke up, So all the foreigners got pwned? How long will they remain in korea? (for the F united matches I mean)
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