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On August 10 2011 16:33 ineq wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2011 16:30 andaylin wrote: jeez zerg is looking so strong nowadays. or is it just cause they are against foreigners? either way.... Surely you mean Koreans? I've seen both SaSe and NaNiWa taking out top foreigner zergs pretty convinsingly. I also saw naniwa get absolutely raped by ret last weekend. I really havent seen many protoss players do well against zerg players in the foreigner scene that recently, at least not ones where the players skill was pretty even.
I mean obviously its happend it just doesnt happen that often recently.
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What tournament is Huk at right now that forced GOM to postpone his group?
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On August 10 2011 16:42 Lysanias wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2011 16:39 Itsmedudeman wrote:On August 10 2011 16:38 NExt wrote:On August 10 2011 16:35 King of Kings wrote:On August 10 2011 16:34 NExt wrote:On August 10 2011 16:33 Harrad wrote:On August 10 2011 16:32 King of Kings wrote: /sigh
And so Nani is our best foreigner? It's HuK. He is all alone "up there"  might need idra to come back :D Nani is way better than IdrA, so IdrA wouldn't be able to win anything in Korea now. Idra is the only foreigner with results in the GSL. Jinro has come closest with a Ro4 showing in the GSL, but idra had consistency crazy foo Pretty sure jinro had as much consistency, idra just left sooner and seeing as how idra is still having trouble in foreigner events I doubt he could hold his own in code S anymore, let alone code A. Level of competition today is a lot different than it was months ago. Agree, the best performance to date comes from Jinro. (SC2) OSL Winner Giyom for life
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Take out games involving foreigners and Protoss are 3-20 since Up & Downs. :<
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Check played really well that game. Naniwa's air units were jusssssst a little bit delayed (moving across the map) and check went for very, very fast hydras, even so there was a period of ~30 seconds where check was vulnerable that would have been exploitable. Also, I think his follow up with mutas probably took Naniwa by surprise, it certainly surprised me. That's a very odd follow up (to me) which you would think would work poorly against someone who already has phoenixes out.
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On August 10 2011 16:42 Liquid`Jinro wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2011 16:38 NExt wrote:On August 10 2011 16:35 King of Kings wrote:On August 10 2011 16:34 NExt wrote:On August 10 2011 16:33 Harrad wrote:On August 10 2011 16:32 King of Kings wrote: /sigh
And so Nani is our best foreigner? It's HuK. He is all alone "up there"  might need idra to come back :D Nani is way better than IdrA, so IdrA wouldn't be able to win anything in Korea now. Idra is the only foreigner with results in the GSL. Jinro has come closest with a Ro4 showing in the GSL, but idra had consistency crazy foo Are you seriously retarded? IdrAs GSL results: Top 32 Top 16 Top 8 Leaves Korea My GSL results: Top 4 Top 4 Top 16 Top 32 Code A Code A Code B I dunno how the hell you can say IdrAs results in GSL are anywhere close to mine, especially when I beat him in GSL 4-1 --; IdrAs is most definitely better than me now but his GSL results are not, no fucking way. QFT hahahaha IdrA's rule in full effect on this thread! 10 posts until we debate best foreigner zerg
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I really wish Moletrap and Wolf, moreso Moletrap than Wolf, would stop making sure to point out every possible excuse for the foreigners. Then also trying to give them points for not getting completely owned when they lose close. It makes the foreigner scene seem so weak. Even if they get totally bashed like they did tonight for the most part we should have the respect to hold them to a standard where losing isn't good enough. You don't have to bash them or go hard on them, but don't look to force out compliments in games that they lose. It really irks me cause it does more harm than good in terms of trying to get people to feel like foreigners can compete.
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On August 10 2011 16:42 Orome wrote: What tournament is Huk at right now that forced GOM to postpone his group?
NA blizzcon qualifers
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Now if HuK loses as well, it is going to be one sad GSL for foreigners.
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On August 10 2011 16:38 NExt wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2011 16:35 King of Kings wrote:On August 10 2011 16:34 NExt wrote:On August 10 2011 16:33 Harrad wrote:On August 10 2011 16:32 King of Kings wrote: /sigh
And so Nani is our best foreigner? It's HuK. He is all alone "up there"  might need idra to come back :D Nani is way better than IdrA, so IdrA wouldn't be able to win anything in Korea now. Idra is the only foreigner with results in the GSL. Jinro has come closest with a Ro4 showing in the GSL, but idra had consistency crazy foo
Jinro's last notable GSL results were in GSL January
Idra's last GSL was in GSL January
the above results have absolutely no bearing on how SC2 is played today and how good a player currently is compared to everyone else
the results in January only have monetary value
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On August 10 2011 16:39 King of Kings wrote: GSL need some good foreigners if they wan't to get a bigger fanbase in EU/NA. Won't be a great promotion for GSL at BlizzCon if the upcoming Season has no foreigners left.
Most interested in seeing the best players, they don't have to be from my country.
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On August 10 2011 16:42 Orome wrote: What tournament is Huk at right now that forced GOM to postpone his group? NA invitational for Blizzcon I think.
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On August 10 2011 16:39 King of Kings wrote: GSL need some good foreigners if they wan't to get a bigger fanbase in EU/NA. Won't be a great promotion for GSL at BlizzCon if the upcoming Season has no foreigners left.
The protoss race in general I feel is having a hard time vs Z and some T early pushs and some Z favored maps today to throw in there.. also I feel like Jinro played great just some key moments decided game plus ThorZain I feel could of won if he played little better.. jetlag and all I feel the T's did good at the very least!
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rofl, I hope this will be a wakeup call for all those "wow, great play there in a random foreigner tournament, easily code A/code S material" people who think gap between foreigners and koreans is much smaller than it really is.
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On August 10 2011 16:43 Vapaach wrote: Now if HuK loses as well, it is going to be one sad GSL for foreigners. He's not playing tonight. We won't find out until August 16
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On August 10 2011 16:34 Shadowcloak wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2011 16:31 Tachion wrote: Best foreigners in the world can't get past the first round in Korea's easiest tournament D:
This is why any top foreigner tournament needs Koreans in it for valid results, else it's just a bunch of kids fighting for the front seat in the short bus. code a easiest ? in korea you sir won th eignorant idiot award of the month imo code a and code b are hardest in korea. Do some research get the facts straight.
Yeah if only the foreigners got paired up against Nestea, MVP, MC, Nada, Losira or Polt then they would have had an easy ride.
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Korea so gooooooood even mediocre players such as Check can wipe the floor with them. Though Check impressed me against Huk in the GSTL so I kind of expected it.
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How does IdrA manage to sneak into every LR thread is beyond me.
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On August 10 2011 16:42 tomatriedes wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2011 16:39 SxYSpAz wrote: in naniwas defense, it wasn't his play that was bad, it was his build. stargate builds are over What other builds can protoss do? A spore colony at each base shuts down DTs, 6 gateway builds are easily scouted and stopped and faster robos are autoloss if zerg goes mutas.
This is why I ahve been doing 1 voidray, 1 mothership, 4 sentry 1 zealot, rest stalker pushes on Ladder.
Its different.
Its not close to any of those.
Hard to hold off.
Sometimes it just downright auto wins.
It will become meta game, I swear. Tester showed us the way with this.
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