EPTMLG Anaheim Day 2 RED Live Report Thread - Page 609
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Alright, its truly time to stop whining. Stop caster bashing also. Be warned. | ||
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Jomppa
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Technique
Netherlands1542 Posts
On July 31 2011 20:11 DrunkeN. wrote: Holy shiiit. Haha :D. | ||
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Corrik
United States1416 Posts
On July 31 2011 20:39 CursedRich wrote: Yes and the only reason people like Inc were ever in group play was because Jinro and Huk didn't attend the first MLG of this year I think that benefited Gretorp and I think Painuser the most. But, I can't 100% stand by that. Those no shows did help though. I think TT1 not coming to the first event helped them also. Can't remember. Edit for correct information: Upon looking at the list of points before Dallas. Those that benefited from Jinro (8th), Huk (1st), TT1 (3rd), Nadagast (17th), ajtls (19th) not showing up were. In order: Incontrol Sjow Gretorp | ||
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Titorelli
2492 Posts
Edit: Wait and Whitera has to be in the top 6 in order to get into pool in the next MLG??? WTF?! | ||
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Thorakh
Netherlands1788 Posts
On July 31 2011 20:11 DrunkeN. wrote: Oh my god, this is gold hahahaha!Holy shiiit. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHbfP5SIn0Y&feature=related | ||
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Jacobs Ladder
United States1705 Posts
On July 31 2011 20:48 Titorelli wrote: man I really dont like that is it almost impossible to drop out of the pool. I mean if you go 0-5 in your group you are safe lol. Whereas players like Demuslim Tod etc didnt make it into the pool play right? Edit: Wait and Whitera has to be in the top 6 in order to get into pool in the next MLG??? WTF?! Keep in mind this is the third event. Every event points are given out to the people who score well. People in the groups score well. Therefore if you're in the groups for most of the year, you will stay in the groups. After Dallas (the first event) people who totally failed did drop out of the groups. During this event the weaker players of Anaheim actually beat someone, so they did decently and advanced. Those weaker players were removed from groups and replaced by stronger ones who fought through the open bracket (like Nani). This made the groups stronger and now players who were mid range at dallas (inc, for example) are now super weak, but someone safe due to their surviving the earlier events pool stages. Edit: This also makes it harder for people to come to a mid season event and steal a group seat. It rewards players who attend all MLG events. | ||
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Corrik
United States1416 Posts
On July 31 2011 20:48 Titorelli wrote: man I really dont like that is it almost impossible to drop out of the pool. I mean if you go 0-5 in your group you are safe lol. Whereas players like Demuslim Tod etc didnt make it into the pool play right? Edit: Wait and Whitera has to be in the top 6 in order to get into pool in the next MLG??? WTF?! Basically. This could vary if certain people don't show up at the next event or such. | ||
UnholyRai
720 Posts
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Badfatpanda
United States9719 Posts
And no replays =( | ||
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CellTech
Canada396 Posts
On July 31 2011 19:33 Scribble wrote: Answer me this: If PvP is just a coinflip, what does MC being the best Protoss have to do with anything? After all, that shouldn't matter in a matchup that is determined by luck and not skill. Also, what does winning a GSL have to do with a matchup not being random? Oh, one more thing. Naniwa: 64.24% Huk: 66.30% (internationally, I believe it's in the 30's in Korea albeit with a small sample size) Inca: 80% Satisfied? Maybe, instead of calling it a coin flip, you could just admit that it isn't your cup of tea? You DO realize the only person you are trying to convince PvP isn't a coinflip matchup is yourself? | ||
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poorcloud
Singapore2748 Posts
If you look at his games closely, his macro isn't really that awesome, he has like 4 - 5 units queued up at each rax. His micro isnt that amazing too, he is barely able to split his marines against banelings, instead just running his whole group of marines away. Of course, his skills are more than good enough to beat the foreigners. But when u compare him to a true code S player, his play is less than impressive. He managed to beat MMA though. But he did win through a BO win (Game 3) and Game 2 was just weird with MMA trying some weird all in. | ||
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Corrik
United States1416 Posts
On July 31 2011 21:12 poorcloud wrote: Don't see whats up with rains play being good though. If you look at his games closely, his macro isn't really that awesome, he has like 4 - 5 units queued up at each rax. His micro isnt that amazing too, he is barely able to split his marines against banelings, instead just running his whole group of marines away. Of course, his skills are more than good enough to beat the foreigners. But when u compare him to a true code S player, his play is less than impressive. He managed to beat MMA though. But he did win through a BO win (Game 3) and Game 2 was just weird with MMA trying some weird all in. This is why I said he had some hiccups. He seemed to have some sloppy unit control in the Ret series. He floated a ton of gas in one of the series for a good while (forget which). However, his builds were pretty solid. He also seemed to have a good sense of timings and when and how to attack his opponents. | ||
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sopas
509 Posts
On July 31 2011 21:12 poorcloud wrote: Don't see whats up with rains play being good though. If you look at his games closely, his macro isn't really that awesome, he has like 4 - 5 units queued up at each rax. His micro isnt that amazing too, he is barely able to split his marines against banelings, instead just running his whole group of marines away. Of course, his skills are more than good enough to beat the foreigners. But when u compare him to a true code S player, his play is less than impressive. He managed to beat MMA though. But he did win through a BO win (Game 3) and Game 2 was just weird with MMA trying some weird all in. it's "good" because people have bashed him so hard that they actually thought he's some barely masters players it seems like. hype has so much effect on ppl's images of players. | ||
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King of Kings
Germany481 Posts
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2011_MLG_Pro_Circuit/Anaheim/ChampionshipBracket | ||
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Corrik
United States1416 Posts
On July 31 2011 21:16 King of Kings wrote: who is "WBC" Oo last unknown in the champ bracket? http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2011_MLG_Pro_Circuit/Anaheim/ChampionshipBracket WannaBeCool | ||
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justinpal
United States3810 Posts
On July 31 2011 21:16 King of Kings wrote: who is "WBC" Oo last unknown in the champ bracket? http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2011_MLG_Pro_Circuit/Anaheim/ChampionshipBracket wannabecool from Its Gosu. They just qualified in EG's Master League. They had a really good showing in MLG. | ||
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King of Kings
Germany481 Posts
Oh another Korean oO | ||
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windzor
Denmark1013 Posts
On July 31 2011 21:03 UnholyRai wrote: can you hire someone to prepare replays for the public? the cost wouldn't be that high and the rewards to customers would be massive! i loved watching the replays Lee already answered to this in his post here on TL. But to give you the quote 3) Modifying replay files (not reading them) is a violation of Blizzard's ToS. I maybe could get permission to do it, but there's a lot of legal issues tied up in that. We already know how to do it. But we'd have to check them all before releasing them. So no the cost seems to high for them to do it. Myabe if 200.000 subscriptions come in theu will?  | ||
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eloist
United States1017 Posts
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Beyonder
Netherlands15103 Posts
On July 31 2011 21:11 CellTech wrote: You DO realize the only person you are trying to convince PvP isn't a coinflip matchup is yourself? Can you stop this dumb discussion. A coin-flip would imply that everyone should be around 50% with a large sample size. This is obviously not the case. What you are trying to argue is that there is quite a lot of variance due to build order losses. Now this is partly true, but you can overcome this with more skill and safer, cleaner builds. The problem arises when two people of equal skill play, as then there is the potential for some build order losses, because you need to take risks to edge out a win. However, people are now finding more and more safe ways to play PvP, e.g. the observer blink stalker build. | ||
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