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Alright, its truly time to stop whining. Stop caster bashing also. Be warned.
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
July 31 2011 06:32 GMT
#11901
On July 31 2011 15:28 Ryalnos wrote:
That eSports zealephant fending off the F5's is the best thing I've seen in a while.

(Relevance: TL just went down for a minute)


I wish TL would overload again just so I could see it. Should have just opened a new tab instead of refreshing.
Rorra
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia1066 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-31 06:33:03
July 31 2011 06:32 GMT
#11902
On July 31 2011 15:30 DystopiaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2011 15:30 Rorra wrote:
On July 31 2011 15:28 Ryalnos wrote:
That eSports zealephant fending off the F5's is the best thing I've seen in a while.

(Relevance: TL just went down for a minute)


yeah lol, was it ddos or just traffic anyone know?

Guessing traffic. If someone was maliciously attacking TL I doubt it would've only been down for like 30 seconds.


i dunno r1ch is that good

Edit: though if it was just traffic that's a good thing, hooray for esports growing!
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
July 31 2011 06:32 GMT
#11903
On July 31 2011 15:30 ReignFayth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2011 15:29 On_Slaught wrote:
Choya lost PvPs to Incontrol and Tyler. You really have to question his PvP >.<

but someho he 2-0d ToD, and tod has beaten Alicia in both winner and loser bracket

ToD also played a fuck ton of matches before that in the Loser's Bracket.

Not saying Choya is bad, but ToD himself said that his own endurance is kind of shitty.
Ryder.
Profile Joined January 2011
1117 Posts
July 31 2011 06:32 GMT
#11904
On July 31 2011 15:29 Timestreamer wrote:
My feeble mind has stumbled in attempts to fathom the complex theory surrounding the MLG system.
Can any of you please tell me what's (Sir.)White-Ra's position right now, and whether or not he has a chance to win this?

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2011_MLG_Pro_Circuit/Anaheim/ChampionshipBracket

Damn right he has a chance to win this :D still a bit of a battle ahead though.
Mordiford
Profile Joined April 2011
4448 Posts
July 31 2011 06:32 GMT
#11905
On July 31 2011 15:27 InvalidID wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2011 15:24 DystopiaX wrote:
On July 31 2011 15:23 Mordiford wrote:
On July 31 2011 15:23 DystopiaX wrote:
On July 31 2011 15:22 Yew wrote:
Wait, does this mean incontrol placed high enough to be in the next MLG?

No one knows, he could still potentially win the tourney


Best joke of the night.

If he wins I'll die laughing.
IncontroL in Code S.


I don't understand this hate for the people at the low end of the Championship brackets, I mean look at Tyler, he got knocked out and came right back like a rubber ball. Did they lose against other really good players? Yes. Does that reflect how they would do against less proven players? Not necessarily.

Take drewbie as an example, he lost all of his matches, but took games off of a number of good players.


I personally feel like Drewbie is a bit of a different example, the guy is generally very consistent, but the sudden burst of skill at MLG has really put him on the back-foot, he still manages to stay competitive but can't close out a series. At Dallas he was 3-0 in his group, there's even an interview with Josh Suth where they joke about the possibility that the player from the open bracket could come through and ruin his day, little did they know... that was Naniwa, who swept the group 4-0. Then at Columbus he went 1-2 in almost all his matches.

inControl doesn't really show strong performances in most tournaments these days, I don't even see him play in most online events either because he doesn't qualify or doesn't want to. I just don't see him belonging in the championship pool.
hicser
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom109 Posts
July 31 2011 06:33 GMT
#11906
OMG, every mlg im like ok im gonna stay up through the whole thing get my flagon of coffee and snaxs ready only to instantly fall asleep and wake up during the end discussion that spoils the results for me lol, anyone know when they do the rebroadcast?
Polt, MvP, Bomber <3
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
July 31 2011 06:33 GMT
#11907
On July 31 2011 15:30 julianto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2011 15:26 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On July 31 2011 15:22 Mordiford wrote:
On July 31 2011 15:21 Scribble wrote:
On July 31 2011 15:18 karis wrote:
On July 31 2011 15:17 mordk wrote:
On July 31 2011 15:17 karis wrote:
On July 31 2011 15:14 Knightess wrote:
On July 31 2011 15:13 JoeSchmoe wrote:
On July 31 2011 15:12 KimJongChill wrote:
[quote]

Alicia beat MC, therefore Incontrol best Protoss in world. Yeah, that sounds about right..


cruncher beat incontrol

cruncher is the best toss in the world.

IdrA beat Cruncher

Idra is the best ZvPer in the world

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


mc beat idra, mc best pvzer in the world?


Oh, so this whole thing finally makes sense


losira beats mc best zvper in the world?

it never ends.


Nestea beat Losira. Best Zv-

FUCK. MY MIND.


TOP beat NesTea.

TOP has the best TvZ in the world.


Bulbasaur beats Squirtle

But Charmander beats Bulbasaur

But Squirtle beats Charmander

?_?

Wrong. As soon as water pokemon learn ice beam, they counter grass pokemon.


Ice training op. So are the water pokemon considered ice or water at that point?
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
July 31 2011 06:33 GMT
#11908
Ahh, so cute elephant screen >_<
MMA: U realise MMA: Most of my army EgIdra: fuck off MMA: Killed my orbital MMA: LOL MMA: just saying MMA: u werent loss
Teoyaomqui
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden326 Posts
July 31 2011 06:33 GMT
#11909
On July 31 2011 15:30 DystopiaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2011 15:29 Teoyaomqui wrote:
On July 31 2011 15:23 DystopiaX wrote:
On July 31 2011 15:22 Yew wrote:
Wait, does this mean incontrol placed high enough to be in the next MLG?

No one knows, he could still potentially win the tourney

I know, he will be seeded, even if he loses next round and then all placements matches. It's ridiculously hard to fall out of top 16 once you're there.

Ranking points as of before Anaheim: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2011_MLG_Pro_Circuit/Rankings

Tyler did, pretty sure a couple others did too.


Yes, Tyler did after finishing 16th and 19th, which, being seeded is pretty damn bad. So it's POSSIBLE, but very unlikely, just like I said.

Also for every MLG you manage to finish top 20 and keep your seeding it's harder and harder for people coming from open to take your sport. If a random guy came from open this MLG he would have to finish at least 7th to be seeded for next MLG while Machine might very well be seeded again next time.
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
July 31 2011 06:33 GMT
#11910
On July 31 2011 15:31 Kaitlin wrote:
Day9 mentioned the Championship brackets laid out on MLG's website, but I can't find it for the life of me. Anyone have a linky link ?

http://s3.majorleaguegaming.com/2011-anaheim-starcraft2-champ.html
Mellon
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden917 Posts
July 31 2011 06:33 GMT
#11911
On July 31 2011 15:29 Timestreamer wrote:
My feeble mind has stumbled in attempts to fathom the complex theory surrounding the MLG system.
Can any of you please tell me what's (Sir.)White-Ra's position right now, and whether or not he has a chance to win this?


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2011_MLG_Pro_Circuit/Anaheim

He has to fight through Select, Slush, Kiwikaki then MMA. Then it's only 5 rounds remaining!
Scribble
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
2077 Posts
July 31 2011 06:33 GMT
#11912
On July 31 2011 15:28 DystopiaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2011 15:26 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On July 31 2011 15:22 Mordiford wrote:
On July 31 2011 15:21 Scribble wrote:
On July 31 2011 15:18 karis wrote:
On July 31 2011 15:17 mordk wrote:
On July 31 2011 15:17 karis wrote:
On July 31 2011 15:14 Knightess wrote:
On July 31 2011 15:13 JoeSchmoe wrote:
On July 31 2011 15:12 KimJongChill wrote:
[quote]

Alicia beat MC, therefore Incontrol best Protoss in world. Yeah, that sounds about right..


cruncher beat incontrol

cruncher is the best toss in the world.

IdrA beat Cruncher

Idra is the best ZvPer in the world

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


mc beat idra, mc best pvzer in the world?


Oh, so this whole thing finally makes sense


losira beats mc best zvper in the world?

it never ends.


Nestea beat Losira. Best Zv-

FUCK. MY MIND.


TOP beat NesTea.

TOP has the best TvZ in the world.


Bulbasaur beats Squirtle

But Charmander beats Bulbasaur

But Squirtle beats Charmander

?_?

Squirtle best Starcraft player in the world.


Squirtle beats Sjow

Sjow beats Socke

Socke beats Squirtle

Socke is the best pokemon.
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
July 31 2011 06:34 GMT
#11913
On July 31 2011 15:33 Teoyaomqui wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2011 15:30 DystopiaX wrote:
On July 31 2011 15:29 Teoyaomqui wrote:
On July 31 2011 15:23 DystopiaX wrote:
On July 31 2011 15:22 Yew wrote:
Wait, does this mean incontrol placed high enough to be in the next MLG?

No one knows, he could still potentially win the tourney

I know, he will be seeded, even if he loses next round and then all placements matches. It's ridiculously hard to fall out of top 16 once you're there.

Ranking points as of before Anaheim: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2011_MLG_Pro_Circuit/Rankings

Tyler did, pretty sure a couple others did too.


Yes, Tyler did after finishing 16th and 19th, which, being seeded is pretty damn bad. So it's POSSIBLE, but very unlikely, just like I said.

Also for every MLG you manage to finish top 20 and keep your seeding it's harder and harder for people coming from open to take your sport. If a random guy came from open this MLG he would have to finish at least 7th to be seeded for next MLG while Machine might very well be seeded again next time.

Some of the Koreans could do it, White-Ra on a good day.
KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
July 31 2011 06:34 GMT
#11914
On July 31 2011 15:32 Mordiford wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2011 15:27 InvalidID wrote:
On July 31 2011 15:24 DystopiaX wrote:
On July 31 2011 15:23 Mordiford wrote:
On July 31 2011 15:23 DystopiaX wrote:
On July 31 2011 15:22 Yew wrote:
Wait, does this mean incontrol placed high enough to be in the next MLG?

No one knows, he could still potentially win the tourney


Best joke of the night.

If he wins I'll die laughing.
IncontroL in Code S.


I don't understand this hate for the people at the low end of the Championship brackets, I mean look at Tyler, he got knocked out and came right back like a rubber ball. Did they lose against other really good players? Yes. Does that reflect how they would do against less proven players? Not necessarily.

Take drewbie as an example, he lost all of his matches, but took games off of a number of good players.


I personally feel like Drewbie is a bit of a different example, the guy is generally very consistent, but the sudden burst of skill at MLG has really put him on the back-foot, he still manages to stay competitive but can't close out a series. At Dallas he was 3-0 in his group, there's even an interview with Josh Suth where they joke about the possibility that the player from the open bracket could come through and ruin his day, little did they know... that was Naniwa, who swept the group 4-0. Then at Columbus he went 1-2 in almost all his matches.

inControl doesn't really show strong performances in most tournaments these days, I don't even see him play in most online events either because he doesn't qualify or doesn't want to. I just don't see him belonging in the championship pool.


Few people do, and it's ridiculous that such poor performers will be seeded into the next tournament.
MMA: U realise MMA: Most of my army EgIdra: fuck off MMA: Killed my orbital MMA: LOL MMA: just saying MMA: u werent loss
CellTech
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada396 Posts
July 31 2011 06:35 GMT
#11915
I'm sorry but just looking at a bracket with MVP and Machine makes me question MLG's point system. Like, if you are instantly seeded into the next MLG if means you get points no matter what...
^ Probably a Troll Post
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
July 31 2011 06:35 GMT
#11916
On July 31 2011 15:33 Scribble wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2011 15:28 DystopiaX wrote:
On July 31 2011 15:26 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On July 31 2011 15:22 Mordiford wrote:
On July 31 2011 15:21 Scribble wrote:
On July 31 2011 15:18 karis wrote:
On July 31 2011 15:17 mordk wrote:
On July 31 2011 15:17 karis wrote:
On July 31 2011 15:14 Knightess wrote:
On July 31 2011 15:13 JoeSchmoe wrote:
[quote]

cruncher beat incontrol

cruncher is the best toss in the world.

IdrA beat Cruncher

Idra is the best ZvPer in the world

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


mc beat idra, mc best pvzer in the world?


Oh, so this whole thing finally makes sense


losira beats mc best zvper in the world?

it never ends.


Nestea beat Losira. Best Zv-

FUCK. MY MIND.


TOP beat NesTea.

TOP has the best TvZ in the world.


Bulbasaur beats Squirtle

But Charmander beats Bulbasaur

But Squirtle beats Charmander

?_?

Squirtle best Starcraft player in the world.


Squirtle beats Sjow

Sjow beats Socke

Socke beats Squirtle

Socke is the best pokemon.

Rain beats Socke

Socke is the best pokemon.
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
July 31 2011 06:36 GMT
#11917
On July 31 2011 15:34 KimJongChill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2011 15:32 Mordiford wrote:
On July 31 2011 15:27 InvalidID wrote:
On July 31 2011 15:24 DystopiaX wrote:
On July 31 2011 15:23 Mordiford wrote:
On July 31 2011 15:23 DystopiaX wrote:
On July 31 2011 15:22 Yew wrote:
Wait, does this mean incontrol placed high enough to be in the next MLG?

No one knows, he could still potentially win the tourney


Best joke of the night.

If he wins I'll die laughing.
IncontroL in Code S.


I don't understand this hate for the people at the low end of the Championship brackets, I mean look at Tyler, he got knocked out and came right back like a rubber ball. Did they lose against other really good players? Yes. Does that reflect how they would do against less proven players? Not necessarily.

Take drewbie as an example, he lost all of his matches, but took games off of a number of good players.


I personally feel like Drewbie is a bit of a different example, the guy is generally very consistent, but the sudden burst of skill at MLG has really put him on the back-foot, he still manages to stay competitive but can't close out a series. At Dallas he was 3-0 in his group, there's even an interview with Josh Suth where they joke about the possibility that the player from the open bracket could come through and ruin his day, little did they know... that was Naniwa, who swept the group 4-0. Then at Columbus he went 1-2 in almost all his matches.

inControl doesn't really show strong performances in most tournaments these days, I don't even see him play in most online events either because he doesn't qualify or doesn't want to. I just don't see him belonging in the championship pool.


Few people do, and it's ridiculous that such poor performers will be seeded into the next tournament.

I feel like it really changes at the start of each season, where the points only count for the first event and for the second they go purely by placing from the first event.
Scribble
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
2077 Posts
July 31 2011 06:37 GMT
#11918
On July 31 2011 15:35 DystopiaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2011 15:33 Scribble wrote:
On July 31 2011 15:28 DystopiaX wrote:
On July 31 2011 15:26 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On July 31 2011 15:22 Mordiford wrote:
On July 31 2011 15:21 Scribble wrote:
On July 31 2011 15:18 karis wrote:
On July 31 2011 15:17 mordk wrote:
On July 31 2011 15:17 karis wrote:
On July 31 2011 15:14 Knightess wrote:
[quote]
IdrA beat Cruncher

Idra is the best ZvPer in the world

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


mc beat idra, mc best pvzer in the world?


Oh, so this whole thing finally makes sense


losira beats mc best zvper in the world?

it never ends.


Nestea beat Losira. Best Zv-

FUCK. MY MIND.


TOP beat NesTea.

TOP has the best TvZ in the world.


Bulbasaur beats Squirtle

But Charmander beats Bulbasaur

But Squirtle beats Charmander

?_?

Squirtle best Starcraft player in the world.


Squirtle beats Sjow

Sjow beats Socke

Socke beats Squirtle

Socke is the best pokemon.

Rain beats Socke

Socke is the best pokemon.


He is the very best, like noone ever was. Poke-bonjwa.
justinpal
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3810 Posts
July 31 2011 06:37 GMT
#11919
On July 31 2011 15:35 CellTech wrote:
I'm sorry but just looking at a bracket with MVP and Machine makes me question MLG's point system. Like, if you are instantly seeded into the next MLG if means you get points no matter what...


I think the assumption is that if you top 16 the first event you are deserving of some protection. But, obviously the skill levels have jumped quite a bit since Dallas.
Never make a hydralisk.
Teoyaomqui
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden326 Posts
July 31 2011 06:37 GMT
#11920
On July 31 2011 15:34 DystopiaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2011 15:33 Teoyaomqui wrote:
On July 31 2011 15:30 DystopiaX wrote:
On July 31 2011 15:29 Teoyaomqui wrote:
On July 31 2011 15:23 DystopiaX wrote:
On July 31 2011 15:22 Yew wrote:
Wait, does this mean incontrol placed high enough to be in the next MLG?

No one knows, he could still potentially win the tourney

I know, he will be seeded, even if he loses next round and then all placements matches. It's ridiculously hard to fall out of top 16 once you're there.

Ranking points as of before Anaheim: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2011_MLG_Pro_Circuit/Rankings

Tyler did, pretty sure a couple others did too.


Yes, Tyler did after finishing 16th and 19th, which, being seeded is pretty damn bad. So it's POSSIBLE, but very unlikely, just like I said.

Also for every MLG you manage to finish top 20 and keep your seeding it's harder and harder for people coming from open to take your sport. If a random guy came from open this MLG he would have to finish at least 7th to be seeded for next MLG while Machine might very well be seeded again next time.

Some of the Koreans could do it, White-Ra on a good day.

Sure they could. But they would start out with a tremendous disadvantage, look at Alicia, better than 90% of players in pool play but didn't make it out of open bracket. It's still a retarded format. In my opinion a tournament should be fair where the best player wins. That is not the case at the moment.
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