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On July 21 2011 18:59 Ribbon wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2011 18:57 flodeskum wrote:On July 21 2011 18:53 Liquid`Jinro wrote:On July 21 2011 18:52 CrackerBoy wrote:On July 21 2011 18:49 XiGua wrote:On July 21 2011 18:47 Liquid`Jinro wrote: And we see why mech sucks:
MC does every single thing you can do wrong vs mech, then decides "fuck it, lets just counter attack" and mechanic shrivels over and dies. Seriously - he didnt expand, he didnt build cannons, he just a moved away a million units for nothing but still wins.
Mechanic is so bad - __ - Balance whine! Joking. I seriously think that something like spidermines needs to come back. Hellions are just not good enough, give them blueflame +10 against everything? +10 everything might be a bit much... Plus 10 everything would be the funniest thing ever, hellions would murder roaches LOL It would be an AoE marauder with the speed of a zergling. Yep that would be good. Not enough. I think it needs a spell to heal and even revive rocks, just to annoy Zerg players 'Spawn destructable rocks', like the spawn broodling ability of the queen in BW but make it only useble on hatcheries.
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On July 21 2011 19:00 FinnGamer wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2011 18:59 untilMay wrote:On July 21 2011 18:58 LostBLuE wrote: Is there a good vP on prime? Polt WAS 100% vs. Protoss in the GSL Super Tourny (atleast i think my facts are straight T_T) Didn't he beat only HuK and then only terrans?
Huk and Alicia.
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On July 21 2011 19:01 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2011 19:00 Drazerk wrote:On July 21 2011 18:59 Drazerk wrote:On July 21 2011 18:59 Drazerk wrote:On July 21 2011 18:58 Drazerk wrote:On July 21 2011 18:57 Drazerk wrote:On July 21 2011 18:57 Drazerk wrote:On July 21 2011 18:56 Drazerk wrote:Game Two on terminus BBBB vs MC   MC is in the north  BBBB is in the south 2:30Pool on the way for BBBB and he has finished his gas Core starting for MC 3:20Speed starting for BBBB Warp gates starting for MC and his second gas 4:20Expansion on the way for BBBB 5:40Expansion on the way for MC with additional gateways 6:30Stargate for MC Third base for BBBB as his evo finishes 7:10Ranged +1 on the way for BBBB MC getting a void ray 8:10
Lair and spores for BBBB MC making phoenixes
9:00
First queen is lifted and goes down
Void is in the red from the other queens now returning home
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On July 21 2011 19:01 Liquid`Jinro wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2011 18:58 HolyArrow wrote:On July 21 2011 18:58 Liquid`Jinro wrote:On July 21 2011 18:55 AndAgain wrote: That terran would get killed 1000x worse if he had gone with bio. Almost beating MC is testament to how good mech can be, imo. If the protoss doesnt know how to play vs it, yes. But give MC a crash course in what to not do vs mech and that game would have been a joke. I find it kind of funny that MC at this point still isn't properly educated on how to handle mech play  Finding a terran player other than me who is stupid enough to try to mech on the Korean ladder is hard.
Give Goody a korean I.D and im sure he will give it a go
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On July 21 2011 19:01 Liquid`Jinro wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2011 18:58 HolyArrow wrote:On July 21 2011 18:58 Liquid`Jinro wrote:On July 21 2011 18:55 AndAgain wrote: That terran would get killed 1000x worse if he had gone with bio. Almost beating MC is testament to how good mech can be, imo. If the protoss doesnt know how to play vs it, yes. But give MC a crash course in what to not do vs mech and that game would have been a joke. I find it kind of funny that MC at this point still isn't properly educated on how to handle mech play  Finding a terran player other than me who is stupid enough to try to mech on the Korean ladder is hard.
Yeah, that makes sense. I just meant that it's funny that neither MC nor any of MC's teammates in all their hours of practice thought "Hey, maybe it would be important to know the basics on how to deal with mech in the very off-chance that someone tries to catch MC off-guard with it".
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People citing thorzain using thors on mc needs to remember that strike cannon didn't require energy before the patch. They can't instantly utilize them anymore when spawn and they can get feedbacked.
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It's so weird...
In chinese Zerglings are named "xiao gou" which basically means SMALL DOG. WTF
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On July 21 2011 19:02 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2011 19:01 Drazerk wrote:On July 21 2011 19:00 Drazerk wrote:On July 21 2011 18:59 Drazerk wrote:On July 21 2011 18:59 Drazerk wrote:On July 21 2011 18:58 Drazerk wrote:On July 21 2011 18:57 Drazerk wrote:On July 21 2011 18:57 Drazerk wrote:On July 21 2011 18:56 Drazerk wrote:Game Two on terminus BBBB vs MC   MC is in the north  BBBB is in the south 2:30Pool on the way for BBBB and he has finished his gas Core starting for MC 3:20Speed starting for BBBB Warp gates starting for MC and his second gas 4:20Expansion on the way for BBBB 5:40Expansion on the way for MC with additional gateways 6:30Stargate for MC Third base for BBBB as his evo finishes 7:10Ranged +1 on the way for BBBB MC getting a void ray 8:10
Lair and spores for BBBB MC making phoenixes 9:00First queen is lifted and goes down Void is in the red from the other queens now returning home
11:10
Hydras are on the way for BBBB along with a fourth base, +2 ranged attack and hydra ranged
MC is getting thermal lance and a third base
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mech seems to be good only vs zerg
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On July 21 2011 19:02 flodeskum wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2011 18:59 Ribbon wrote:On July 21 2011 18:57 flodeskum wrote:On July 21 2011 18:53 Liquid`Jinro wrote:On July 21 2011 18:52 CrackerBoy wrote:On July 21 2011 18:49 XiGua wrote:On July 21 2011 18:47 Liquid`Jinro wrote: And we see why mech sucks:
MC does every single thing you can do wrong vs mech, then decides "fuck it, lets just counter attack" and mechanic shrivels over and dies. Seriously - he didnt expand, he didnt build cannons, he just a moved away a million units for nothing but still wins.
Mechanic is so bad - __ - Balance whine! Joking. I seriously think that something like spidermines needs to come back. Hellions are just not good enough, give them blueflame +10 against everything? +10 everything might be a bit much... Plus 10 everything would be the funniest thing ever, hellions would murder roaches LOL It would be an AoE marauder with the speed of a zergling. Yep that would be good. Not enough. I think it needs a spell to heal and even revive rocks, just to annoy Zerg players 'Spawn destructable rocks', like the spawn broodling ability of the queen in BW but make it only useble on hatcheries.
Or ramps.
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On July 21 2011 19:03 kyophan wrote: People citing thorzain using thors on mc needs to remember that strike cannon didn't require energy before the patch. They can't instantly utilize them anymore when spawn and they can get feedbacked.
Which is funny, because they had energy originally, and were given a cooldown-based mechanic to broaden Terran options vs. Protoss. Blizzard clearly changed its mind about having a non-Marauder based strategy viable vs. Protoss.
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I like watching hydras kill void rays. Reminds me of popping pimples.
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On July 21 2011 19:03 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2011 19:02 Drazerk wrote:On July 21 2011 19:01 Drazerk wrote:On July 21 2011 19:00 Drazerk wrote:On July 21 2011 18:59 Drazerk wrote:On July 21 2011 18:59 Drazerk wrote:On July 21 2011 18:58 Drazerk wrote:On July 21 2011 18:57 Drazerk wrote:On July 21 2011 18:57 Drazerk wrote:On July 21 2011 18:56 Drazerk wrote:Game Two on terminus BBBB vs MC   MC is in the north  BBBB is in the south 2:30Pool on the way for BBBB and he has finished his gas Core starting for MC 3:20Speed starting for BBBB Warp gates starting for MC and his second gas 4:20Expansion on the way for BBBB 5:40Expansion on the way for MC with additional gateways 6:30Stargate for MC Third base for BBBB as his evo finishes 7:10Ranged +1 on the way for BBBB MC getting a void ray 8:10
Lair and spores for BBBB MC making phoenixes 9:00First queen is lifted and goes down Void is in the red from the other queens now returning home 11:10Hydras are on the way for BBBB along with a fourth base, +2 ranged attack and hydra ranged MC is getting thermal lance and a third base
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Spire on the way for BBBB
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On July 21 2011 19:03 kyophan wrote: People citing thorzain using thors on mc needs to remember that strike cannon didn't require energy before the patch. They can't instantly utilize them anymore when spawn and they can get feedbacked.
That was one changed that wasn't needed, FSM forbid, Protoss have to struggle against Thors by gasp! making a carrier.
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On July 21 2011 19:00 FinnGamer wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2011 18:59 untilMay wrote:On July 21 2011 18:58 LostBLuE wrote: Is there a good vP on prime? Polt WAS 100% vs. Protoss in the GSL Super Tourny (atleast i think my facts are straight T_T) Didn't he beat only HuK and then only terrans? And i believe Alicia.
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Kill every overlord you can Mc. This guy has sick overlord control.
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On July 21 2011 19:03 liam33 wrote: mech seems to be good only vs zerg
It seems to have caught on TvT in the GSL, too. (For which we can credit NASL Nada v. Strelok.)
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On July 21 2011 19:03 liam33 wrote: mech seems to be good only vs zerg Not even that good vs Zerg that has it figured out. Mutas will win if you have too few Thors or Roaches will win if you have too few tanks... etc
Mech is really tricky, it has a very small marginal of error in the unit composition.
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BboongBboong's macro is insane O.o
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On July 21 2011 19:03 Pandemona wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2011 19:01 Liquid`Jinro wrote:On July 21 2011 18:58 HolyArrow wrote:On July 21 2011 18:58 Liquid`Jinro wrote:On July 21 2011 18:55 AndAgain wrote: That terran would get killed 1000x worse if he had gone with bio. Almost beating MC is testament to how good mech can be, imo. If the protoss doesnt know how to play vs it, yes. But give MC a crash course in what to not do vs mech and that game would have been a joke. I find it kind of funny that MC at this point still isn't properly educated on how to handle mech play  Finding a terran player other than me who is stupid enough to try to mech on the Korean ladder is hard. Give Goody a korean I.D and im sure he will give it a go 
GoOdy got raped by TSL_Killer in a torunament some days/1-2weeks ago. on Xel naga. The map where Mech is actually pretty playable (in every MU).
Mech wont stand a chance in highlevel TvP play
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