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On July 21 2011 19:03 kyophan wrote:
People citing thorzain using thors on mc needs to remember that strike cannon didn't require energy before the patch. They can't instantly utilize them anymore when spawn and they can get feedbacked.
And they never actually get enough energy to afford the cannons. Energy was just added to make them weak to high templar while making certain strike cannon couldn't be used again (regardless of feedback or not.) 125 energy, you gotta be fucking kidding me. Remember the P cries when HTs (who warp in instantly) had to reg 25 energy before storm ._.
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On July 21 2011 19:04 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2011 19:03 Drazerk wrote:On July 21 2011 19:02 Drazerk wrote:On July 21 2011 19:01 Drazerk wrote:On July 21 2011 19:00 Drazerk wrote:On July 21 2011 18:59 Drazerk wrote:On July 21 2011 18:59 Drazerk wrote:On July 21 2011 18:58 Drazerk wrote:On July 21 2011 18:57 Drazerk wrote:On July 21 2011 18:57 Drazerk wrote:
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2:30
Pool on the way for BBBB and he has finished his gas
Core starting for MC 3:20Speed starting for BBBB Warp gates starting for MC and his second gas 4:20Expansion on the way for BBBB 5:40Expansion on the way for MC with additional gateways 6:30Stargate for MC Third base for BBBB as his evo finishes 7:10Ranged +1 on the way for BBBB MC getting a void ray 8:10
Lair and spores for BBBB MC making phoenixes 9:00First queen is lifted and goes down Void is in the red from the other queens now returning home 11:10Hydras are on the way for BBBB along with a fourth base, +2 ranged attack and hydra ranged MC is getting thermal lance and a third base 12:40Spire on the way for BBBB
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Twilight council on the way for BBBB
BBBB is making a lot of units and a infestation pit
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On July 21 2011 19:03 XiGua wrote:
It's so weird...
In chinese Zerglings are named "xiao gou" which basically means SMALL DOG. WTF
Holy crap, Byun isn't getting a dog, he's getting a zergling!
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Jinro sounding terribly defeatist
Hopefully he won't commit sudoku..
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Why aren't there ever being infestors made?
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On July 21 2011 19:05 Tppz! wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2011 19:03 Pandemona wrote:On July 21 2011 19:01 Liquid`Jinro wrote:On July 21 2011 18:58 HolyArrow wrote:On July 21 2011 18:58 Liquid`Jinro wrote:On July 21 2011 18:55 AndAgain wrote:
That terran would get killed 1000x worse if he had gone with bio. Almost beating MC is testament to how good mech can be, imo. If the protoss doesnt know how to play vs it, yes. But give MC a crash course in what to not do vs mech and that game would have been a joke. I find it kind of funny that MC at this point still isn't properly educated on how to handle mech play  Finding a terran player other than me who is stupid enough to try to mech on the Korean ladder is hard. Give Goody a korean I.D and im sure he will give it a go GoOdy got raped by TSL_Killer in a torunament some days/1-2weeks ago. on Xel naga. The map where Mech is actually pretty playable (in every MU). Mech wont stand a chance in highlevel TvP play 
Although Killer cheesed that game on Zel'Naga.
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On July 21 2011 18:59 Ribbon wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2011 18:57 flodeskum wrote:On July 21 2011 18:53 Liquid`Jinro wrote:On July 21 2011 18:52 CrackerBoy wrote:On July 21 2011 18:49 XiGua wrote:On July 21 2011 18:47 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
And we see why mech sucks:
MC does every single thing you can do wrong vs mech, then decides "fuck it, lets just counter attack" and mechanic shrivels over and dies. Seriously - he didnt expand, he didnt build cannons, he just a moved away a million units for nothing but still wins.
Mechanic is so bad - __ - Balance whine! Joking. I seriously think that something like spidermines needs to come back. Hellions are just not good enough, give them blueflame +10 against everything? +10 everything might be a bit much... Plus 10 everything would be the funniest thing ever, hellions would murder roaches LOL It would be an AoE marauder with the speed of a zergling. Yep that would be good. Not enough. I think it needs a spell to heal and even revive rocks, just to annoy Zerg players
I just want the +10 on everything so I can kill rocks in reasonable time with hellions.
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On July 21 2011 19:05 hopoo wrote:
Jinro sounding terribly defeatist
Hopefully he won't commit sudoku..
I think you mean sepukku or whatever... sudoku is a number/puzzle game lmao
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I don't think MC is behind.. we'll see
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I expect some balance whine when zerg loses - roach hydra corrupter...
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On July 21 2011 19:05 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2011 19:04 Drazerk wrote:On July 21 2011 19:03 Drazerk wrote:On July 21 2011 19:02 Drazerk wrote:On July 21 2011 19:01 Drazerk wrote:On July 21 2011 19:00 Drazerk wrote:On July 21 2011 18:59 Drazerk wrote:On July 21 2011 18:59 Drazerk wrote:On July 21 2011 18:58 Drazerk wrote:On July 21 2011 18:57 Drazerk wrote:
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Speed starting for BBBB
Warp gates starting for MC and his second gas 4:20Expansion on the way for BBBB 5:40Expansion on the way for MC with additional gateways 6:30Stargate for MC Third base for BBBB as his evo finishes 7:10Ranged +1 on the way for BBBB MC getting a void ray 8:10
Lair and spores for BBBB MC making phoenixes 9:00First queen is lifted and goes down Void is in the red from the other queens now returning home 11:10Hydras are on the way for BBBB along with a fourth base, +2 ranged attack and hydra ranged MC is getting thermal lance and a third base 12:40Spire on the way for BBBB
14:00Twilight council on the way for BBBB BBBB is making a lot of units and a infestation pit
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Big attack incoming for BBBB as he builds a hive
MC nearing max supply
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On July 21 2011 19:06 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2011 19:05 Drazerk wrote:On July 21 2011 19:04 Drazerk wrote:On July 21 2011 19:03 Drazerk wrote:On July 21 2011 19:02 Drazerk wrote:On July 21 2011 19:01 Drazerk wrote:On July 21 2011 19:00 Drazerk wrote:On July 21 2011 18:59 Drazerk wrote:On July 21 2011 18:59 Drazerk wrote:On July 21 2011 18:58 Drazerk wrote:
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4:20
Expansion on the way for BBBB 5:40Expansion on the way for MC with additional gateways 6:30Stargate for MC Third base for BBBB as his evo finishes 7:10Ranged +1 on the way for BBBB MC getting a void ray 8:10
Lair and spores for BBBB MC making phoenixes 9:00First queen is lifted and goes down Void is in the red from the other queens now returning home 11:10Hydras are on the way for BBBB along with a fourth base, +2 ranged attack and hydra ranged MC is getting thermal lance and a third base 12:40Spire on the way for BBBB
14:00Twilight council on the way for BBBB BBBB is making a lot of units and a infestation pit 15:40Big attack incoming for BBBB as he builds a hive MC nearing max supply
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Huge amount of spines incoming
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On July 21 2011 18:58 Skyze wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2011 18:55 Liquid`Jinro wrote:On July 21 2011 18:53 Skyze wrote:On July 21 2011 18:47 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
And we see why mech sucks:
MC does every single thing you can do wrong vs mech, then decides "fuck it, lets just counter attack" and mechanic shrivels over and dies. Seriously - he didnt expand, he didnt build cannons, he just a moved away a million units for nothing but still wins.
Mechanic is so bad - __ - Disappointed in this post Jinro, you should know that MC just knew the weakness to Mech (its immobility) and went around the other side. If Hannibal had afew tanks covering his flank, he would of held it and won that game convincingly. Or rather; if it was a map that only had ONE path to attack, theres no way MC could of broke out of there. Everything has its strengths and weaknesses.. Mech is slow and immobile, but protoss has no chance breaking a mech contain like hannibal had, so MC had to go around or else lose when the slow push finally reached him. Hahahahaha Sigh. Yeah, everything has its weaknesses and the mech weakness is big enough to make it not worth doing on 99% of maps, and if MC actually got to play people who meched regularly he would murder it so bad its not even funny. We'll see how the future of SC2 pans out.. but considering Thorzain did well vs MC with mech, Goody does well vs protoss with mech (despite his low apm/macro).. and didnt you beat afew protoss before with mech? Its not as strong as pure marauder, sure (what else in the game is), but its a viable strat.
Goodys vs p is prob. his weakest. Thorzain won with thors against MC who played compltely wrong. And thors just got worse cus they now have energy.
Mech is not viable.
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On July 21 2011 19:06 Yew wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2011 19:05 hopoo wrote:
Jinro sounding terribly defeatist
Hopefully he won't commit sudoku.. I think you mean sepukku or whatever... sudoku is a number/puzzle game lmao
its a joke... look on tyler's twitter and in the SotG thread
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No infestors :/ - This could get messy....
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On July 21 2011 19:05 Tppz! wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2011 19:03 Pandemona wrote:On July 21 2011 19:01 Liquid`Jinro wrote:On July 21 2011 18:58 HolyArrow wrote:On July 21 2011 18:58 Liquid`Jinro wrote:On July 21 2011 18:55 AndAgain wrote:
That terran would get killed 1000x worse if he had gone with bio. Almost beating MC is testament to how good mech can be, imo. If the protoss doesnt know how to play vs it, yes. But give MC a crash course in what to not do vs mech and that game would have been a joke. I find it kind of funny that MC at this point still isn't properly educated on how to handle mech play Finding a terran player other than me who is stupid enough to try to mech on the Korean ladder is hard. Give Goody a korean I.D and im sure he will give it a go GoOdy got raped by TSL_Killer in a torunament some days/1-2weeks ago. on Xel naga. The map where Mech is actually pretty playable (in every MU). Mech wont stand a chance in highlevel TvP play
I watched that game too, obviously koreans a different level, but was a T V T and blue flame helions used well in TvT are awesomezzzz, but goody is pro
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taking a page out of sens book
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Now we get to see MC's control
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Mass Spines, taking a page out of Dimagas book
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EPT
