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SafeAsCheese
Profile Joined June 2011
United States4924 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-21 10:05:37
July 21 2011 10:05 GMT
#841
Edit : nvm, so blurry Dx
EmilA
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark4618 Posts
July 21 2011 10:05 GMT
#842
On July 21 2011 19:03 kyophan wrote:
People citing thorzain using thors on mc needs to remember that strike cannon didn't require energy before the patch. They can't instantly utilize them anymore when spawn and they can get feedbacked.


And they never actually get enough energy to afford the cannons. Energy was just added to make them weak to high templar while making certain strike cannon couldn't be used again (regardless of feedback or not.) 125 energy, you gotta be fucking kidding me. Remember the P cries when HTs (who warp in instantly) had to reg 25 energy before storm ._.
http://dotabuff.com/players/122305951 playing other games
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
July 21 2011 10:05 GMT
#843
On July 21 2011 19:04 Drazerk wrote:
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[quote]

2:30


Pool on the way for BBBB and he has finished his gas

Core starting for MC


3:20

Speed starting for BBBB

Warp gates starting for MC and his second gas


4:20

Expansion on the way for BBBB


5:40

Expansion on the way for MC with additional gateways


6:30

Stargate for MC

Third base for BBBB as his evo finishes


7:10

Ranged +1 on the way for BBBB

MC getting a void ray


8:10

Lair and spores for BBBB

MC making phoenixes


9:00

First queen is lifted and goes down

Void is in the red from the other queens now returning home


11:10

Hydras are on the way for BBBB along with a fourth base, +2 ranged attack and hydra ranged

MC is getting thermal lance and a third base


12:40

Spire on the way for BBBB


14:00


Twilight council on the way for BBBB

BBBB is making a lot of units and a infestation pit
Seditary
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia7033 Posts
July 21 2011 10:05 GMT
#844
On July 21 2011 19:03 XiGua wrote:
It's so weird...

In chinese Zerglings are named "xiao gou" which basically means SMALL DOG. WTF


Holy crap, Byun isn't getting a dog, he's getting a zergling!
Love is more fun than hate.
hopoo
Profile Joined November 2010
37 Posts
July 21 2011 10:05 GMT
#845
Jinro sounding terribly defeatist

Hopefully he won't commit sudoku..
Giku
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands368 Posts
July 21 2011 10:05 GMT
#846
Why aren't there ever being infestors made?
Let the music be the fuse that'll spark my soul
Pajegetc
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3158 Posts
July 21 2011 10:05 GMT
#847
On July 21 2011 19:05 Tppz! wrote:
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On July 21 2011 19:03 Pandemona wrote:
On July 21 2011 19:01 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
On July 21 2011 18:58 HolyArrow wrote:
On July 21 2011 18:58 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
On July 21 2011 18:55 AndAgain wrote:
That terran would get killed 1000x worse if he had gone with bio. Almost beating MC is testament to how good mech can be, imo.

If the protoss doesnt know how to play vs it, yes. But give MC a crash course in what to not do vs mech and that game would have been a joke.


I find it kind of funny that MC at this point still isn't properly educated on how to handle mech play

Finding a terran player other than me who is stupid enough to try to mech on the Korean ladder is hard.


Give Goody a korean I.D and im sure he will give it a go



GoOdy got raped by TSL_Killer in a torunament some days/1-2weeks ago. on Xel naga. The map where Mech is actually pretty playable (in every MU).

Mech wont stand a chance in highlevel TvP play


Although Killer cheesed that game on Zel'Naga.
Lose Early game - Cheese. Lose Mid Game - All Ined. Lose Late Game - OMG IMBALANCE. My Guide to Zerg LR.
Eufouria
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom4425 Posts
July 21 2011 10:06 GMT
#848
On July 21 2011 18:59 Ribbon wrote:
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On July 21 2011 18:57 flodeskum wrote:
On July 21 2011 18:53 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
On July 21 2011 18:52 CrackerBoy wrote:
On July 21 2011 18:49 XiGua wrote:
On July 21 2011 18:47 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
And we see why mech sucks:

MC does every single thing you can do wrong vs mech, then decides "fuck it, lets just counter attack" and mechanic shrivels over and dies. Seriously - he didnt expand, he didnt build cannons, he just a moved away a million units for nothing but still wins.

Mechanic is so bad - __ -

Balance whine! Joking.

I seriously think that something like spidermines needs to come back. Hellions are just not good enough, give them blueflame +10 against everything?


+10 everything might be a bit much...

Plus 10 everything would be the funniest thing ever, hellions would murder roaches LOL

It would be an AoE marauder with the speed of a zergling. Yep that would be good.


Not enough. I think it needs a spell to heal and even revive rocks, just to annoy Zerg players

I just want the +10 on everything so I can kill rocks in reasonable time with hellions.
Yew
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States940 Posts
July 21 2011 10:06 GMT
#849
On July 21 2011 19:05 hopoo wrote:
Jinro sounding terribly defeatist

Hopefully he won't commit sudoku..

I think you mean sepukku or whatever... sudoku is a number/puzzle game lmao
Rarak
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia631 Posts
July 21 2011 10:06 GMT
#850
I don't think MC is behind.. we'll see
Horseballs
Profile Joined July 2011
United States721 Posts
July 21 2011 10:06 GMT
#851
I expect some balance whine when zerg loses - roach hydra corrupter...
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
July 21 2011 10:06 GMT
#852
On July 21 2011 19:05 Drazerk wrote:
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On July 21 2011 18:59 Drazerk wrote:
On July 21 2011 18:59 Drazerk wrote:
On July 21 2011 18:58 Drazerk wrote:
On July 21 2011 18:57 Drazerk wrote:
[quote]

3:20

Speed starting for BBBB

Warp gates starting for MC and his second gas


4:20

Expansion on the way for BBBB


5:40

Expansion on the way for MC with additional gateways


6:30

Stargate for MC

Third base for BBBB as his evo finishes


7:10

Ranged +1 on the way for BBBB

MC getting a void ray


8:10

Lair and spores for BBBB

MC making phoenixes


9:00

First queen is lifted and goes down

Void is in the red from the other queens now returning home


11:10

Hydras are on the way for BBBB along with a fourth base, +2 ranged attack and hydra ranged

MC is getting thermal lance and a third base


12:40

Spire on the way for BBBB


14:00


Twilight council on the way for BBBB

BBBB is making a lot of units and a infestation pit


15:40

Big attack incoming for BBBB as he builds a hive

MC nearing max supply
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
July 21 2011 10:07 GMT
#853
On July 21 2011 19:06 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2011 19:05 Drazerk wrote:
On July 21 2011 19:04 Drazerk wrote:
On July 21 2011 19:03 Drazerk wrote:
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On July 21 2011 19:01 Drazerk wrote:
On July 21 2011 19:00 Drazerk wrote:
On July 21 2011 18:59 Drazerk wrote:
On July 21 2011 18:59 Drazerk wrote:
On July 21 2011 18:58 Drazerk wrote:
[quote]

4:20

Expansion on the way for BBBB


5:40

Expansion on the way for MC with additional gateways


6:30

Stargate for MC

Third base for BBBB as his evo finishes


7:10

Ranged +1 on the way for BBBB

MC getting a void ray


8:10

Lair and spores for BBBB

MC making phoenixes


9:00

First queen is lifted and goes down

Void is in the red from the other queens now returning home


11:10

Hydras are on the way for BBBB along with a fourth base, +2 ranged attack and hydra ranged

MC is getting thermal lance and a third base


12:40

Spire on the way for BBBB


14:00


Twilight council on the way for BBBB

BBBB is making a lot of units and a infestation pit


15:40

Big attack incoming for BBBB as he builds a hive

MC nearing max supply


16:30

Huge amount of spines incoming
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9427 Posts
July 21 2011 10:07 GMT
#854
On July 21 2011 18:58 Skyze wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2011 18:55 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
On July 21 2011 18:53 Skyze wrote:
On July 21 2011 18:47 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
And we see why mech sucks:

MC does every single thing you can do wrong vs mech, then decides "fuck it, lets just counter attack" and mechanic shrivels over and dies. Seriously - he didnt expand, he didnt build cannons, he just a moved away a million units for nothing but still wins.

Mechanic is so bad - __ -


Disappointed in this post Jinro, you should know that MC just knew the weakness to Mech (its immobility) and went around the other side. If Hannibal had afew tanks covering his flank, he would of held it and won that game convincingly. Or rather; if it was a map that only had ONE path to attack, theres no way MC could of broke out of there.

Everything has its strengths and weaknesses.. Mech is slow and immobile, but protoss has no chance breaking a mech contain like hannibal had, so MC had to go around or else lose when the slow push finally reached him.

Hahahahaha

Sigh.

Yeah, everything has its weaknesses and the mech weakness is big enough to make it not worth doing on 99% of maps, and if MC actually got to play people who meched regularly he would murder it so bad its not even funny.


We'll see how the future of SC2 pans out.. but considering Thorzain did well vs MC with mech, Goody does well vs protoss with mech (despite his low apm/macro).. and didnt you beat afew protoss before with mech? Its not as strong as pure marauder, sure (what else in the game is), but its a viable strat.



Goodys vs p is prob. his weakest. Thorzain won with thors against MC who played compltely wrong. And thors just got worse cus they now have energy.

Mech is not viable.
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
July 21 2011 10:07 GMT
#855
On July 21 2011 19:06 Yew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2011 19:05 hopoo wrote:
Jinro sounding terribly defeatist

Hopefully he won't commit sudoku..

I think you mean sepukku or whatever... sudoku is a number/puzzle game lmao

its a joke... look on tyler's twitter and in the SotG thread
www.superbeerbrothers.com
TheSilverfox
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden1928 Posts
July 21 2011 10:07 GMT
#856
No infestors :/ - This could get messy....
Also known as Joinsimon on Twitter/Reddit
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
July 21 2011 10:07 GMT
#857
On July 21 2011 19:05 Tppz! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2011 19:03 Pandemona wrote:
On July 21 2011 19:01 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
On July 21 2011 18:58 HolyArrow wrote:
On July 21 2011 18:58 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
On July 21 2011 18:55 AndAgain wrote:
That terran would get killed 1000x worse if he had gone with bio. Almost beating MC is testament to how good mech can be, imo.

If the protoss doesnt know how to play vs it, yes. But give MC a crash course in what to not do vs mech and that game would have been a joke.


I find it kind of funny that MC at this point still isn't properly educated on how to handle mech play

Finding a terran player other than me who is stupid enough to try to mech on the Korean ladder is hard.


Give Goody a korean I.D and im sure he will give it a go



GoOdy got raped by TSL_Killer in a torunament some days/1-2weeks ago. on Xel naga. The map where Mech is actually pretty playable (in every MU).

Mech wont stand a chance in highlevel TvP play


I watched that game too, obviously koreans a different level, but was a T V T and blue flame helions used well in TvT are awesomezzzz, but goody is pro
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andaylin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10830 Posts
July 21 2011 10:07 GMT
#858
taking a page out of sens book
"Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard." - Kevin Durant
DisaFear
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia4074 Posts
July 21 2011 10:07 GMT
#859
Now we get to see MC's control
How devious | http://anartisticanswer.blogspot.com.au/
FinnGamer
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany2426 Posts
July 21 2011 10:07 GMT
#860
Mass Spines, taking a page out of Dimagas book
"hopefully swing the favor in your advantage." - Day[9]
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