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On July 21 2011 18:57 iamke55 wrote: Wouldn't it be better to use Polt and save their Zerg player for Inca?
This is Prime we're talking about.
Four GSTL seasons. 0 victories. They know how to lose with a great line-up better than any other team.
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hmm my stream keeps getting this error message can someone tell me how to solve it?
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On July 21 2011 18:52 Liquid`Jinro wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2011 18:50 Goibon wrote:On July 21 2011 18:47 Liquid`Jinro wrote: And we see why mech sucks:
MC does every single thing you can do wrong vs mech, then decides "fuck it, lets just counter attack" and mechanic shrivels over and dies. Seriously - he didnt expand, he didnt build cannons, he just a moved away a million units for nothing but still wins.
Mechanic is so bad - __ - Please tell me its because siege tanks aren't as awesome as they were in BW. Mostly no. Mostly its because P is 10x more mobile, mech has no space control, mech is completely unable to kill a far away protoss base without committing full army because of how good warp in is, and finally mech doesnt trade nearly as well as it did in SC1. Of course when bio is so retardedly strong this doesnt actually make TvP imbalanced, it just makes mech shit.
What about BCs or hellion drop? Or can they not do enough damage by themselves after toss hits x number of warpgates?
ALSO WHEN ARE WE GOING TO SEE YOU PLAY MAN WE'RE DYING FOR OUR GORILLA TERRAN
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On July 21 2011 18:58 Liquid`Jinro wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2011 18:55 AndAgain wrote: That terran would get killed 1000x worse if he had gone with bio. Almost beating MC is testament to how good mech can be, imo. If the protoss doesnt know how to play vs it, yes. But give MC a crash course in what to not do vs mech and that game would have been a joke.
I find it kind of funny that MC at this point still isn't properly educated on how to handle mech play
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"OGSTL" did I hear that right :p
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On July 21 2011 18:50 Liquid`Jinro wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2011 18:48 Itsmedudeman wrote:On July 21 2011 18:47 Liquid`Jinro wrote: And we see why mech sucks:
MC does every single thing you can do wrong vs mech, then decides "fuck it, lets just counter attack" and mechanic shrivels over and dies. Seriously - he didnt expand, he didnt build cannons, he just a moved away a million units for nothing but still wins.
Mechanic is so bad - __ - hey, whose team are you on again?!? Hey, MC is way the better player but he didnt deserve to win that game lol The opponent went mech against protoss. Based on that choice he deserved to lose :D
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On July 21 2011 18:46 Supamang wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2011 18:44 jmbthirteen wrote: Did an archon and a immortal just take out 5 tanks? lol yup. fuckin hero units, deserve retirement and fresh virgins every week This is now my favourite comment ever
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On July 21 2011 18:58 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2011 18:57 Drazerk wrote:On July 21 2011 18:57 Drazerk wrote:On July 21 2011 18:56 Drazerk wrote:Game Two on terminus BBBB vs MC   MC is in the north  BBBB is in the south 2:30Pool on the way for BBBB and he has finished his gas Core starting for MC 3:20Speed starting for BBBB Warp gates starting for MC and his second gas 4:20Expansion on the way for BBBB
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Expansion on the way for MC with additional gateways
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MC took a very late expansion for a 1 gate expand....
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On July 21 2011 18:58 LostBLuE wrote: Is there a good vP on prime? Polt WAS 100% vs. Protoss in the GSL Super Tourny (atleast i think my facts are straight T_T)
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On July 21 2011 18:57 flodeskum wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2011 18:53 Liquid`Jinro wrote:On July 21 2011 18:52 CrackerBoy wrote:On July 21 2011 18:49 XiGua wrote:On July 21 2011 18:47 Liquid`Jinro wrote: And we see why mech sucks:
MC does every single thing you can do wrong vs mech, then decides "fuck it, lets just counter attack" and mechanic shrivels over and dies. Seriously - he didnt expand, he didnt build cannons, he just a moved away a million units for nothing but still wins.
Mechanic is so bad - __ - Balance whine! Joking. I seriously think that something like spidermines needs to come back. Hellions are just not good enough, give them blueflame +10 against everything? +10 everything might be a bit much... Plus 10 everything would be the funniest thing ever, hellions would murder roaches LOL It would be an AoE marauder with the speed of a zergling. Yep that would be good.
Not enough. I think it needs a spell to heal and even revive rocks, just to annoy Zerg players
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On July 21 2011 18:59 DMKraft wrote: "OGSTL" did I hear that right :p yes
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On July 21 2011 18:58 Skyze wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2011 18:55 Liquid`Jinro wrote:On July 21 2011 18:53 Skyze wrote:On July 21 2011 18:47 Liquid`Jinro wrote: And we see why mech sucks:
MC does every single thing you can do wrong vs mech, then decides "fuck it, lets just counter attack" and mechanic shrivels over and dies. Seriously - he didnt expand, he didnt build cannons, he just a moved away a million units for nothing but still wins.
Mechanic is so bad - __ - Disappointed in this post Jinro, you should know that MC just knew the weakness to Mech (its immobility) and went around the other side. If Hannibal had afew tanks covering his flank, he would of held it and won that game convincingly. Or rather; if it was a map that only had ONE path to attack, theres no way MC could of broke out of there. Everything has its strengths and weaknesses.. Mech is slow and immobile, but protoss has no chance breaking a mech contain like hannibal had, so MC had to go around or else lose when the slow push finally reached him. Hahahahaha Sigh. Yeah, everything has its weaknesses and the mech weakness is big enough to make it not worth doing on 99% of maps, and if MC actually got to play people who meched regularly he would murder it so bad its not even funny. We'll see how the future of SC2 pans out.. but considering Thorzain did well vs MC with mech, Goody does well vs protoss with mech (despite his low apm/macro).. and didnt you beat afew protoss before with mech? Its not as strong as pure marauder, sure (what else in the game is), but its a viable strat.
Actually, a few posts back someone suggested to build sensor towers, wouldn't this help the Terran with it's bad mobility? I think sensor towers might help Mech ALOT in the future, but we'll see.
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On July 21 2011 18:58 Skyze wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2011 18:55 Liquid`Jinro wrote:On July 21 2011 18:53 Skyze wrote:On July 21 2011 18:47 Liquid`Jinro wrote: And we see why mech sucks:
MC does every single thing you can do wrong vs mech, then decides "fuck it, lets just counter attack" and mechanic shrivels over and dies. Seriously - he didnt expand, he didnt build cannons, he just a moved away a million units for nothing but still wins.
Mechanic is so bad - __ - Disappointed in this post Jinro, you should know that MC just knew the weakness to Mech (its immobility) and went around the other side. If Hannibal had afew tanks covering his flank, he would of held it and won that game convincingly. Or rather; if it was a map that only had ONE path to attack, theres no way MC could of broke out of there. Everything has its strengths and weaknesses.. Mech is slow and immobile, but protoss has no chance breaking a mech contain like hannibal had, so MC had to go around or else lose when the slow push finally reached him. Hahahahaha Sigh. Yeah, everything has its weaknesses and the mech weakness is big enough to make it not worth doing on 99% of maps, and if MC actually got to play people who meched regularly he would murder it so bad its not even funny. We'll see how the future of SC2 pans out.. but considering Thorzain did well vs MC with mech, Goody does well vs protoss with mech (despite his low apm/macro).. and didnt you beat afew protoss before with mech? Its not as strong as pure marauder, sure (what else in the game is), but its a viable strat.
Thorzain's builds focused on Thors if I'm not mistaken though, before the nerf.
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On July 21 2011 18:58 LostBLuE wrote: Is there a good vP on prime?
1. Polt 2. MKP
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On July 21 2011 18:58 FinnGamer wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2011 18:56 frogurt wrote: MC will need to pee after downing that pepsi. ToD said one time, when you need to Pee before a match don't Why is that? O.O
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On July 21 2011 18:59 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2011 18:58 Drazerk wrote:On July 21 2011 18:57 Drazerk wrote:On July 21 2011 18:57 Drazerk wrote:On July 21 2011 18:56 Drazerk wrote:Game Two on terminus BBBB vs MC   MC is in the north  BBBB is in the south 2:30Pool on the way for BBBB and he has finished his gas Core starting for MC 3:20Speed starting for BBBB Warp gates starting for MC and his second gas 4:20Expansion on the way for BBBB 5:40Expansion on the way for MC with additional gateways
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Stargate for MC
Third base for BBBB as his evo finishes
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On July 21 2011 18:57 Hall0wed wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2011 18:57 iamke55 wrote: Wouldn't it be better to use Polt and save their Zerg player for Inca? Inca is not there.
and why would they send in Inca anyway.. :-/
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On July 21 2011 18:57 iamke55 wrote: Wouldn't it be better to use Polt and save their Zerg player for Inca? i dont think inca would even come out, mc's pvp is better than inca's so a protoss would only probably comeout once they beat mc, then they could just use someone else who has better other matchups (like top or supernova or somone else).
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On July 21 2011 18:57 XiGua wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2011 18:56 ComTrav wrote:On July 21 2011 18:55 ComusLoM wrote: Hannibal lost because he built so many vikings. It's just not going to help him. especially since he has units that decimate stalker/collosus once the hellions kill all the zealots. He can afford to spread himself way thinner with mech. MC was also either great with the feedbacks or hannibal was terrible with his ghost control.
The blue flame hellions just kill the economy instantly. This type of mech should be great against protoss better executed. Well, I hate to say this, but Terrans make two mistakes in TvP: 1. They build too many Vikings 2. They don't build enough Vikings Same for each race I guess, Zerg: 1. You build too many drones 2. You don't build enough drones Protoss: 1. eh, I actually don't know... Scratch that.
Zealots versus stalkers, stalkers versus sentries. Immortals or two stalkers. You were right, every race has choices.
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