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Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
July 21 2011 09:58 GMT
#781
On July 21 2011 18:57 iamke55 wrote:
Wouldn't it be better to use Polt and save their Zerg player for Inca?


This is Prime we're talking about.

Four GSTL seasons. 0 victories. They know how to lose with a great line-up better than any other team.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
Loire
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore1358 Posts
July 21 2011 09:58 GMT
#782
hmm my stream keeps getting this error message can someone tell me how to solve it?
Haydin
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1481 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-21 09:59:53
July 21 2011 09:58 GMT
#783
On July 21 2011 18:52 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2011 18:50 Goibon wrote:
On July 21 2011 18:47 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
And we see why mech sucks:

MC does every single thing you can do wrong vs mech, then decides "fuck it, lets just counter attack" and mechanic shrivels over and dies. Seriously - he didnt expand, he didnt build cannons, he just a moved away a million units for nothing but still wins.

Mechanic is so bad - __ -

Please tell me its because siege tanks aren't as awesome as they were in BW.

Mostly no. Mostly its because P is 10x more mobile, mech has no space control, mech is completely unable to kill a far away protoss base without committing full army because of how good warp in is, and finally mech doesnt trade nearly as well as it did in SC1.

Of course when bio is so retardedly strong this doesnt actually make TvP imbalanced, it just makes mech shit.


What about BCs or hellion drop? Or can they not do enough damage by themselves after toss hits x number of warpgates?

ALSO WHEN ARE WE GOING TO SEE YOU PLAY MAN WE'RE DYING FOR OUR GORILLA TERRAN
aka ilovesharkpeople
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
July 21 2011 09:58 GMT
#784
On July 21 2011 18:58 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2011 18:55 AndAgain wrote:
That terran would get killed 1000x worse if he had gone with bio. Almost beating MC is testament to how good mech can be, imo.

If the protoss doesnt know how to play vs it, yes. But give MC a crash course in what to not do vs mech and that game would have been a joke.


I find it kind of funny that MC at this point still isn't properly educated on how to handle mech play
DMKraft
Profile Joined December 2010
476 Posts
July 21 2011 09:59 GMT
#785
"OGSTL" did I hear that right :p
Eufouria
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom4425 Posts
July 21 2011 09:59 GMT
#786
On July 21 2011 18:50 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2011 18:48 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On July 21 2011 18:47 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
And we see why mech sucks:

MC does every single thing you can do wrong vs mech, then decides "fuck it, lets just counter attack" and mechanic shrivels over and dies. Seriously - he didnt expand, he didnt build cannons, he just a moved away a million units for nothing but still wins.

Mechanic is so bad - __ -

hey, whose team are you on again?!?

Hey, MC is way the better player but he didnt deserve to win that game lol

The opponent went mech against protoss. Based on that choice he deserved to lose :D
Darkong
Profile Joined February 2010
United Kingdom418 Posts
July 21 2011 09:59 GMT
#787
On July 21 2011 18:46 Supamang wrote:
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On July 21 2011 18:44 jmbthirteen wrote:
Did an archon and a immortal just take out 5 tanks?

lol yup. fuckin hero units, deserve retirement and fresh virgins every week

This is now my favourite comment ever
Trolling the Battle.Net forums, the most fun you can have with your pants on.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
July 21 2011 09:59 GMT
#788
On July 21 2011 18:58 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2011 18:57 Drazerk wrote:
On July 21 2011 18:57 Drazerk wrote:
On July 21 2011 18:56 Drazerk wrote:
Game Two on terminus

BBBB vs MC

MC is in the north

BBBB is in the south


2:30


Pool on the way for BBBB and he has finished his gas

Core starting for MC


3:20

Speed starting for BBBB

Warp gates starting for MC and his second gas


4:20

Expansion on the way for BBBB


5:40

Expansion on the way for MC with additional gateways
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
July 21 2011 09:59 GMT
#789
MC took a very late expansion for a 1 gate expand....
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
untilMay
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)190 Posts
July 21 2011 09:59 GMT
#790
On July 21 2011 18:58 LostBLuE wrote:
Is there a good vP on prime?

Polt WAS 100% vs. Protoss in the GSL Super Tourny (atleast i think my facts are straight T_T)
MKP/Bisu/BoxeR/HuK/Everyone else in Prime.WE/Day9 <3 :: /人 ◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ モアンイングェスクエ!
Ribbon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5278 Posts
July 21 2011 09:59 GMT
#791
On July 21 2011 18:57 flodeskum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2011 18:53 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
On July 21 2011 18:52 CrackerBoy wrote:
On July 21 2011 18:49 XiGua wrote:
On July 21 2011 18:47 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
And we see why mech sucks:

MC does every single thing you can do wrong vs mech, then decides "fuck it, lets just counter attack" and mechanic shrivels over and dies. Seriously - he didnt expand, he didnt build cannons, he just a moved away a million units for nothing but still wins.

Mechanic is so bad - __ -

Balance whine! Joking.

I seriously think that something like spidermines needs to come back. Hellions are just not good enough, give them blueflame +10 against everything?


+10 everything might be a bit much...

Plus 10 everything would be the funniest thing ever, hellions would murder roaches LOL

It would be an AoE marauder with the speed of a zergling. Yep that would be good.


Not enough. I think it needs a spell to heal and even revive rocks, just to annoy Zerg players
Yew
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States940 Posts
July 21 2011 09:59 GMT
#792
On July 21 2011 18:59 DMKraft wrote:
"OGSTL" did I hear that right :p

yes
XiGua
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden3085 Posts
July 21 2011 09:59 GMT
#793
On July 21 2011 18:58 Skyze wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2011 18:55 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
On July 21 2011 18:53 Skyze wrote:
On July 21 2011 18:47 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
And we see why mech sucks:

MC does every single thing you can do wrong vs mech, then decides "fuck it, lets just counter attack" and mechanic shrivels over and dies. Seriously - he didnt expand, he didnt build cannons, he just a moved away a million units for nothing but still wins.

Mechanic is so bad - __ -


Disappointed in this post Jinro, you should know that MC just knew the weakness to Mech (its immobility) and went around the other side. If Hannibal had afew tanks covering his flank, he would of held it and won that game convincingly. Or rather; if it was a map that only had ONE path to attack, theres no way MC could of broke out of there.

Everything has its strengths and weaknesses.. Mech is slow and immobile, but protoss has no chance breaking a mech contain like hannibal had, so MC had to go around or else lose when the slow push finally reached him.

Hahahahaha

Sigh.

Yeah, everything has its weaknesses and the mech weakness is big enough to make it not worth doing on 99% of maps, and if MC actually got to play people who meched regularly he would murder it so bad its not even funny.


We'll see how the future of SC2 pans out.. but considering Thorzain did well vs MC with mech, Goody does well vs protoss with mech (despite his low apm/macro).. and didnt you beat afew protoss before with mech? Its not as strong as pure marauder, sure (what else in the game is), but its a viable strat.



Actually, a few posts back someone suggested to build sensor towers, wouldn't this help the Terran with it's bad mobility? I think sensor towers might help Mech ALOT in the future, but we'll see.
ლ(ಠ益ಠლ) APM, Why u make me spam?
SniXSniPe
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1938 Posts
July 21 2011 09:59 GMT
#794
On July 21 2011 18:58 Skyze wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2011 18:55 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
On July 21 2011 18:53 Skyze wrote:
On July 21 2011 18:47 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
And we see why mech sucks:

MC does every single thing you can do wrong vs mech, then decides "fuck it, lets just counter attack" and mechanic shrivels over and dies. Seriously - he didnt expand, he didnt build cannons, he just a moved away a million units for nothing but still wins.

Mechanic is so bad - __ -


Disappointed in this post Jinro, you should know that MC just knew the weakness to Mech (its immobility) and went around the other side. If Hannibal had afew tanks covering his flank, he would of held it and won that game convincingly. Or rather; if it was a map that only had ONE path to attack, theres no way MC could of broke out of there.

Everything has its strengths and weaknesses.. Mech is slow and immobile, but protoss has no chance breaking a mech contain like hannibal had, so MC had to go around or else lose when the slow push finally reached him.

Hahahahaha

Sigh.

Yeah, everything has its weaknesses and the mech weakness is big enough to make it not worth doing on 99% of maps, and if MC actually got to play people who meched regularly he would murder it so bad its not even funny.


We'll see how the future of SC2 pans out.. but considering Thorzain did well vs MC with mech, Goody does well vs protoss with mech (despite his low apm/macro).. and didnt you beat afew protoss before with mech? Its not as strong as pure marauder, sure (what else in the game is), but its a viable strat.



Thorzain's builds focused on Thors if I'm not mistaken though, before the nerf.
EmilA
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark4618 Posts
July 21 2011 09:59 GMT
#795
On July 21 2011 18:58 LostBLuE wrote:
Is there a good vP on prime?


1. Polt
2. MKP
http://dotabuff.com/players/122305951 playing other games
jjhchsc2
Profile Joined December 2010
Korea (South)2393 Posts
July 21 2011 09:59 GMT
#796
On July 21 2011 18:58 FinnGamer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2011 18:56 frogurt wrote:
MC will need to pee after downing that pepsi.

ToD said one time, when you need to Pee before a match don't

Why is that?
O.O
Lee Ssang/ Lee Shin/ Kim Jung Woo/ Kim Min Chul/Jun Tae Yang/Park Soo Ho/Lee Jung Hoon/Choi Sung Hoon/ Moon Sung Won/Park Ji Soo/ Lee Ho Joon/ Jang Min Chul/ Kim Seung Chul/SaSe/IdrA/Ret Fighting! BW4Life
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
July 21 2011 09:59 GMT
#797
On July 21 2011 18:59 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2011 18:58 Drazerk wrote:
On July 21 2011 18:57 Drazerk wrote:
On July 21 2011 18:57 Drazerk wrote:
On July 21 2011 18:56 Drazerk wrote:
Game Two on terminus

BBBB vs MC

MC is in the north

BBBB is in the south


2:30


Pool on the way for BBBB and he has finished his gas

Core starting for MC


3:20

Speed starting for BBBB

Warp gates starting for MC and his second gas


4:20

Expansion on the way for BBBB


5:40

Expansion on the way for MC with additional gateways


6:30

Stargate for MC

Third base for BBBB as his evo finishes
Pajegetc
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3158 Posts
July 21 2011 10:00 GMT
#798
On July 21 2011 18:57 Hall0wed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2011 18:57 iamke55 wrote:
Wouldn't it be better to use Polt and save their Zerg player for Inca?


Inca is not there.


and why would they send in Inca anyway.. :-/
Lose Early game - Cheese. Lose Mid Game - All Ined. Lose Late Game - OMG IMBALANCE. My Guide to Zerg LR.
EMPaThy789
Profile Joined July 2009
New Zealand878 Posts
July 21 2011 10:00 GMT
#799
On July 21 2011 18:57 iamke55 wrote:
Wouldn't it be better to use Polt and save their Zerg player for Inca?

i dont think inca would even come out, mc's pvp is better than inca's so a protoss would only probably comeout once they beat mc, then they could just use someone else who has better other matchups (like top or supernova or somone else).
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
July 21 2011 10:00 GMT
#800
On July 21 2011 18:57 XiGua wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2011 18:56 ComTrav wrote:
On July 21 2011 18:55 ComusLoM wrote:
Hannibal lost because he built so many vikings. It's just not going to help him. especially since he has units that decimate stalker/collosus once the hellions kill all the zealots. He can afford to spread himself way thinner with mech. MC was also either great with the feedbacks or hannibal was terrible with his ghost control.

The blue flame hellions just kill the economy instantly. This type of mech should be great against protoss better executed.


Well, I hate to say this, but Terrans make two mistakes in TvP:

1. They build too many Vikings
2. They don't build enough Vikings

Same for each race I guess,

Zerg:
1. You build too many drones
2. You don't build enough drones

Protoss:
1. eh, I actually don't know... Scratch that.


Zealots versus stalkers, stalkers versus sentries. Immortals or two stalkers. You were right, every race has choices.
twitch.tv/medrea
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