• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 04:19
CET 10:19
KST 18:19
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!12[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
Weekly Cups (Oct 26 - Nov 1): MaxPax, herO, Solar win0Weekly Cups (October 19-25): Clem triples first in 5.0.175Evil Geniuses - shutting down23ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier7Weekly Cups (October 12-18): 5.0.17 era begins1
StarCraft 2
General
No more SC2 streamers on team liquid? [D] Hacker peak in sc2 ? Liquibets sc2 season 30 Evil Geniuses - shutting down Weekly Cups (Oct 26 - Nov 1): MaxPax, herO, Solar win
Tourneys
SC4ALL: II Venue Change Announcement! Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament WardiTV Mondays ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20)
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[G] How to playtest arcade maps Starcraft 2 Advance [D] the control group Simple Questions/Answers
External Content
Mutation # 550 Graveyard Shift The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 549 Endless Sparkles Mutation # 548 Shining Bright
Brood War
General
sOs joins Best's team, Newcatsle University Rollback Netcode in Brood War SC4ALL: II Venue Change Announcement! [Megathread] Daily Funny Videos BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[$1250] International ShieldBattery League [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
Strategy
50,000-Word Terran Builds Memo 2026-10-22 Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stratus: Battle for the sky now on steam Early acc Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Deus Ex 3!?
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Dating: How's your luck? Trading/Investing Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
Fan Club Resource Thread Reynor Fan Club The Flash Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Why I built Repalyzer (1.1.…
BlueStar
Innovate or Game Over?
TrAiDoS
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 9114 users

[GSTL] Jupiter Group Week 5 - Page 38

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 36 37 38 39 40 197 Next
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
July 21 2011 09:55 GMT
#741
the wind calling the all kill, gotta love this guy :D I don't think mc can make it though, although im a ogs fanboy
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
July 21 2011 09:56 GMT
#742
On July 21 2011 18:54 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2011 18:53 Belha wrote:
On July 21 2011 18:50 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
On July 21 2011 18:48 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On July 21 2011 18:47 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
And we see why mech sucks:

MC does every single thing you can do wrong vs mech, then decides "fuck it, lets just counter attack" and mechanic shrivels over and dies. Seriously - he didnt expand, he didnt build cannons, he just a moved away a million units for nothing but still wins.

Mechanic is so bad - __ -

hey, whose team are you on again?!?

Hey, MC is way the better player but he didnt deserve to win that game lol

Why not? He did everything right until that push in the mid. Hannibal did mistakes too. Hannibal could base traded, he have lot of armored dps with unsieged tanks and T is kinda favored in base trades with lifeoff.

Because you should not lose a game where you have far more supply / workers?


The point about workers is irrelevant since MC acted before the loss of workers really had time to hurt him. I remember PuMa beating MC in the first game of the NASL finals when MC was 40 supply up just because he handled the engagement so much better than MC. It's perfectly acceptable to lose a game when you have far more supply if your opponent handles a key engagement brilliantly or you handle it terribly.
bearhug
Profile Joined September 2010
United States999 Posts
July 21 2011 09:56 GMT
#743
On July 21 2011 18:53 Skyze wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2011 18:47 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
And we see why mech sucks:

MC does every single thing you can do wrong vs mech, then decides "fuck it, lets just counter attack" and mechanic shrivels over and dies. Seriously - he didnt expand, he didnt build cannons, he just a moved away a million units for nothing but still wins.

Mechanic is so bad - __ -


Disappointed in this post Jinro, you should know that MC just knew the weakness to Mech (its immobility) and went around the other side. If Hannibal had afew tanks covering his flank, he would of held it and won that game convincingly. Or rather; if it was a map that only had ONE path to attack, theres no way MC could of broke out of there.

Everything has its strengths and weaknesses.. Mech is slow and immobile, but protoss has no chance breaking a mech contain like hannibal had, so MC had to go around or else lose when the slow push finally reached him.


You are disappointed because you play toss. Let's be honest.
We are dusts in the vast cosmic arena. Need to make the most out of life when we still have it.
ComTrav
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1093 Posts
July 21 2011 09:56 GMT
#744
On July 21 2011 18:55 ComusLoM wrote:
Hannibal lost because he built so many vikings. It's just not going to help him. especially since he has units that decimate stalker/collosus once the hellions kill all the zealots. He can afford to spread himself way thinner with mech. MC was also either great with the feedbacks or hannibal was terrible with his ghost control.

The blue flame hellions just kill the economy instantly. This type of mech should be great against protoss better executed.


Well, I hate to say this, but Terrans make two mistakes in TvP:

1. They build too many Vikings
2. They don't build enough Vikings
elt
Profile Joined July 2010
Thailand1092 Posts
July 21 2011 09:56 GMT
#745
On July 21 2011 18:54 shabby wrote:
Is MC married? ^o)


It's probably a couple ring. Koreans like that kind of thing.
(Under Construction)
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11112 Posts
July 21 2011 09:56 GMT
#746
On July 21 2011 18:54 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2011 18:53 Belha wrote:
On July 21 2011 18:50 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
On July 21 2011 18:48 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On July 21 2011 18:47 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
And we see why mech sucks:

MC does every single thing you can do wrong vs mech, then decides "fuck it, lets just counter attack" and mechanic shrivels over and dies. Seriously - he didnt expand, he didnt build cannons, he just a moved away a million units for nothing but still wins.

Mechanic is so bad - __ -

hey, whose team are you on again?!?

Hey, MC is way the better player but he didnt deserve to win that game lol

Why not? He did everything right until that push in the mid. Hannibal did mistakes too. Hannibal could base traded, he have lot of armored dps with unsieged tanks and T is kinda favored in base trades with lifeoff.

Because you should not lose a game where you have far more supply / workers?


To be fair, we don't quite have anything to harass ourselves back into the game against someone competent.
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
tdt
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3179 Posts
July 21 2011 09:56 GMT
#747
On July 21 2011 18:47 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
And we see why mech sucks:

MC does every single thing you can do wrong vs mech, then decides "fuck it, lets just counter attack" and mechanic shrivels over and dies. Seriously - he didnt expand, he didnt build cannons, he just a moved away a million units for nothing but still wins.

Mechanic is so bad - __ -

Except you beat MC 2x with mech in GSL 5.
MC for president
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
July 21 2011 09:56 GMT
#748
Game Two on terminus

BBBB vs MC

MC is in the north

BBBB is in the south
Pajegetc
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3158 Posts
July 21 2011 09:56 GMT
#749
On July 21 2011 18:50 hugedong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2011 18:48 ComTrav wrote:
On July 21 2011 18:46 namste wrote:
Time to bring in the Polt! MC is 0-6 against Polt :p


IIRC, Polt was one of the first people to expose some holes in MC's play.

I think MC is playing a little less greedy these days, though, but Polt is still really good at TvP.

They may have a prepared sniper for MC, though.

He just did a nexus first. Seems pretty greedy to me even if that's probably the only map you can get away with it.


You can get away with nexus first on most maps actually vs T.
Lose Early game - Cheese. Lose Mid Game - All Ined. Lose Late Game - OMG IMBALANCE. My Guide to Zerg LR.
CrackerBoy
Profile Joined June 2011
Denmark26 Posts
July 21 2011 09:56 GMT
#750
On July 21 2011 18:53 CortoMontez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2011 18:52 CrackerBoy wrote:
On July 21 2011 18:49 XiGua wrote:
On July 21 2011 18:47 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
And we see why mech sucks:

MC does every single thing you can do wrong vs mech, then decides "fuck it, lets just counter attack" and mechanic shrivels over and dies. Seriously - he didnt expand, he didnt build cannons, he just a moved away a million units for nothing but still wins.

Mechanic is so bad - __ -

Balance whine! Joking.

I seriously think that something like spidermines needs to come back. Hellions are just not good enough, give them blueflame +10 against everything?


+10 everything might be a bit much...

On the plus side, it would be much less humiliating when I end up losing my nexus to hellions...


True. Thats is a good enough reason for me.
frogurt
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Australia907 Posts
July 21 2011 09:56 GMT
#751
MC will need to pee after downing that pepsi.
"Koreans own white dudes" -Moon
Crumpet
Profile Joined May 2011
United States137 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-21 09:57:08
July 21 2011 09:56 GMT
#752
One of the casters laughs just like Seth Green in Austin Powers. Keeps cracking me up lol
"Because boy bands are no match for fucking missiles." Day9
SniXSniPe
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1938 Posts
July 21 2011 09:56 GMT
#753
Hannibal only had 3 Factories.
Vapaach
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland994 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-21 09:57:42
July 21 2011 09:57 GMT
#754
On July 21 2011 18:52 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2011 18:50 Goibon wrote:
On July 21 2011 18:47 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
And we see why mech sucks:

MC does every single thing you can do wrong vs mech, then decides "fuck it, lets just counter attack" and mechanic shrivels over and dies. Seriously - he didnt expand, he didnt build cannons, he just a moved away a million units for nothing but still wins.

Mechanic is so bad - __ -

Please tell me its because siege tanks aren't as awesome as they were in BW.

Mostly no. Mostly its because P is 10x more mobile, mech has no space control, mech is completely unable to kill a far away protoss base without committing full army because of how good warp in is, and finally mech doesnt trade nearly as well as it did in SC1.

Of course when bio is so retardedly strong this doesnt actually make TvP imbalanced, it just makes mech shit.


Kind of funny you say that when you have beat MC twice with mech ^^

I think Hannibal lost because he was out of position, and half of his army was vikings. He lost 2 of his tanks for nothing, and had to fight the rest of the fight with unsieged tanks and hellions against archon/immortal/stalker.
If you never try you never know. Sase - Mana - TLO - WhiteRa - Naniwa - Sheth - HuK
wristuzi
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom1168 Posts
July 21 2011 09:57 GMT
#755
Gotta say the oGs-TL logo is now completely badass.
MarineKingPrime ¯\_(シ)_/¯ // Naniwa ¯\_(シ)_/¯ // Morrow
SafeAsCheese
Profile Joined June 2011
United States4924 Posts
July 21 2011 09:57 GMT
#756
On July 21 2011 18:56 ComTrav wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2011 18:55 ComusLoM wrote:
Hannibal lost because he built so many vikings. It's just not going to help him. especially since he has units that decimate stalker/collosus once the hellions kill all the zealots. He can afford to spread himself way thinner with mech. MC was also either great with the feedbacks or hannibal was terrible with his ghost control.

The blue flame hellions just kill the economy instantly. This type of mech should be great against protoss better executed.


Well, I hate to say this, but Terrans make two mistakes in TvP:

1. They build too many Vikings
2. They don't build enough Vikings


that's how ZvP worked for 9 months as well

1. You have enough corruptors to kill colossus
2. You die to colossus
flodeskum
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1267 Posts
July 21 2011 09:57 GMT
#757
On July 21 2011 18:53 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2011 18:52 CrackerBoy wrote:
On July 21 2011 18:49 XiGua wrote:
On July 21 2011 18:47 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
And we see why mech sucks:

MC does every single thing you can do wrong vs mech, then decides "fuck it, lets just counter attack" and mechanic shrivels over and dies. Seriously - he didnt expand, he didnt build cannons, he just a moved away a million units for nothing but still wins.

Mechanic is so bad - __ -

Balance whine! Joking.

I seriously think that something like spidermines needs to come back. Hellions are just not good enough, give them blueflame +10 against everything?


+10 everything might be a bit much...

Plus 10 everything would be the funniest thing ever, hellions would murder roaches LOL

It would be an AoE marauder with the speed of a zergling. Yep that would be good.
IdrA: " my fans are kinda retarded"
Nastiness
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden275 Posts
July 21 2011 09:57 GMT
#758
who is the prime zerg? bongbong?
There is no rest in the dark realm.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
July 21 2011 09:57 GMT
#759
On July 21 2011 18:56 Drazerk wrote:
Game Two on terminus

BBBB vs MC

MC is in the north

BBBB is in the south


2:30


Pool on the way for BBBB and he has finished his gas

Core starting for MC
XiGua
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden3085 Posts
July 21 2011 09:57 GMT
#760
On July 21 2011 18:56 ComTrav wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2011 18:55 ComusLoM wrote:
Hannibal lost because he built so many vikings. It's just not going to help him. especially since he has units that decimate stalker/collosus once the hellions kill all the zealots. He can afford to spread himself way thinner with mech. MC was also either great with the feedbacks or hannibal was terrible with his ghost control.

The blue flame hellions just kill the economy instantly. This type of mech should be great against protoss better executed.


Well, I hate to say this, but Terrans make two mistakes in TvP:

1. They build too many Vikings
2. They don't build enough Vikings

Same for each race I guess,

Zerg:
1. You build too many drones
2. You don't build enough drones

Protoss:
1. eh, I actually don't know... Scratch that.
ლ(ಠ益ಠლ) APM, Why u make me spam?
Prev 1 36 37 38 39 40 197 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h 41m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft: Brood War
Rain 3096
FanTaSy 336
actioN 182
ZerO 133
Killer 123
Free 109
Mind 106
Leta 103
Sharp 33
NaDa 30
[ Show more ]
Aegong 29
scan(afreeca) 29
soO 22
Bale 19
zelot 19
ajuk12(nOOB) 14
yabsab 14
Terrorterran 8
Counter-Strike
fl0m2768
Super Smash Bros
Westballz40
Other Games
summit1g11343
JimRising 416
Lowko279
Fuzer 188
Mew2King135
NeuroSwarm65
amsayoshi24
Railgan18
ZerO(Twitch)7
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick456
Counter-Strike
PGL105
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 28
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• LUISG 15
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Laughngamez YouTube
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 18
• ChaeLyn 5
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Stunt580
Upcoming Events
IntoTheTV X SOOP
1h 41m
Reynor vs Solar
ByuN vs SHIN
Clem vs MaxPax
herO vs Rogue
IPSL
7h 41m
WorsT vs nOmaD
Dewalt vs andersOn
AI Arena Tournament
9h 41m
IntoTheTV X SOOP
1d 1h
IPSL
1d 7h
Azhi_Dahaki vs ggnore13
Double vs WIZARD
Replay Cast
1d 13h
Replay Cast
2 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
WardiTV Invitational
3 days
YoungYakov vs Lambo
SHIN vs TBD
Percival vs Shameless
Solar vs TBD
PiGosaur Cup
3 days
[ Show More ]
The PondCast
5 days
KCM Race Survival
5 days
WardiTV Invitational
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-11-05
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HCC Season 3

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
International ShieldBattery League
BSL Season 23
IPSL Winter 2026-27
Calamity Cup Div. A Season 8
IEM Beijing 2026
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026

Upcoming

Sector 951
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Underdog Cup 2026 Div 2-3
PGL Bucharest 2027
BLAST Bounty Winter 2027
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.