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AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
July 21 2011 09:55 GMT
#741
the wind calling the all kill, gotta love this guy :D I don't think mc can make it though, although im a ogs fanboy
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
July 21 2011 09:56 GMT
#742
On July 21 2011 18:54 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2011 18:53 Belha wrote:
On July 21 2011 18:50 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
On July 21 2011 18:48 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On July 21 2011 18:47 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
And we see why mech sucks:

MC does every single thing you can do wrong vs mech, then decides "fuck it, lets just counter attack" and mechanic shrivels over and dies. Seriously - he didnt expand, he didnt build cannons, he just a moved away a million units for nothing but still wins.

Mechanic is so bad - __ -

hey, whose team are you on again?!?

Hey, MC is way the better player but he didnt deserve to win that game lol

Why not? He did everything right until that push in the mid. Hannibal did mistakes too. Hannibal could base traded, he have lot of armored dps with unsieged tanks and T is kinda favored in base trades with lifeoff.

Because you should not lose a game where you have far more supply / workers?


The point about workers is irrelevant since MC acted before the loss of workers really had time to hurt him. I remember PuMa beating MC in the first game of the NASL finals when MC was 40 supply up just because he handled the engagement so much better than MC. It's perfectly acceptable to lose a game when you have far more supply if your opponent handles a key engagement brilliantly or you handle it terribly.
bearhug
Profile Joined September 2010
United States999 Posts
July 21 2011 09:56 GMT
#743
On July 21 2011 18:53 Skyze wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2011 18:47 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
And we see why mech sucks:

MC does every single thing you can do wrong vs mech, then decides "fuck it, lets just counter attack" and mechanic shrivels over and dies. Seriously - he didnt expand, he didnt build cannons, he just a moved away a million units for nothing but still wins.

Mechanic is so bad - __ -


Disappointed in this post Jinro, you should know that MC just knew the weakness to Mech (its immobility) and went around the other side. If Hannibal had afew tanks covering his flank, he would of held it and won that game convincingly. Or rather; if it was a map that only had ONE path to attack, theres no way MC could of broke out of there.

Everything has its strengths and weaknesses.. Mech is slow and immobile, but protoss has no chance breaking a mech contain like hannibal had, so MC had to go around or else lose when the slow push finally reached him.


You are disappointed because you play toss. Let's be honest.
We are dusts in the vast cosmic arena. Need to make the most out of life when we still have it.
ComTrav
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1093 Posts
July 21 2011 09:56 GMT
#744
On July 21 2011 18:55 ComusLoM wrote:
Hannibal lost because he built so many vikings. It's just not going to help him. especially since he has units that decimate stalker/collosus once the hellions kill all the zealots. He can afford to spread himself way thinner with mech. MC was also either great with the feedbacks or hannibal was terrible with his ghost control.

The blue flame hellions just kill the economy instantly. This type of mech should be great against protoss better executed.


Well, I hate to say this, but Terrans make two mistakes in TvP:

1. They build too many Vikings
2. They don't build enough Vikings
elt
Profile Joined July 2010
Thailand1092 Posts
July 21 2011 09:56 GMT
#745
On July 21 2011 18:54 shabby wrote:
Is MC married? ^o)


It's probably a couple ring. Koreans like that kind of thing.
(Under Construction)
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11075 Posts
July 21 2011 09:56 GMT
#746
On July 21 2011 18:54 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2011 18:53 Belha wrote:
On July 21 2011 18:50 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
On July 21 2011 18:48 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On July 21 2011 18:47 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
And we see why mech sucks:

MC does every single thing you can do wrong vs mech, then decides "fuck it, lets just counter attack" and mechanic shrivels over and dies. Seriously - he didnt expand, he didnt build cannons, he just a moved away a million units for nothing but still wins.

Mechanic is so bad - __ -

hey, whose team are you on again?!?

Hey, MC is way the better player but he didnt deserve to win that game lol

Why not? He did everything right until that push in the mid. Hannibal did mistakes too. Hannibal could base traded, he have lot of armored dps with unsieged tanks and T is kinda favored in base trades with lifeoff.

Because you should not lose a game where you have far more supply / workers?


To be fair, we don't quite have anything to harass ourselves back into the game against someone competent.
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
tdt
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3179 Posts
July 21 2011 09:56 GMT
#747
On July 21 2011 18:47 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
And we see why mech sucks:

MC does every single thing you can do wrong vs mech, then decides "fuck it, lets just counter attack" and mechanic shrivels over and dies. Seriously - he didnt expand, he didnt build cannons, he just a moved away a million units for nothing but still wins.

Mechanic is so bad - __ -

Except you beat MC 2x with mech in GSL 5.
MC for president
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
July 21 2011 09:56 GMT
#748
Game Two on terminus

BBBB vs MC

MC is in the north

BBBB is in the south
Pajegetc
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3158 Posts
July 21 2011 09:56 GMT
#749
On July 21 2011 18:50 hugedong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2011 18:48 ComTrav wrote:
On July 21 2011 18:46 namste wrote:
Time to bring in the Polt! MC is 0-6 against Polt :p


IIRC, Polt was one of the first people to expose some holes in MC's play.

I think MC is playing a little less greedy these days, though, but Polt is still really good at TvP.

They may have a prepared sniper for MC, though.

He just did a nexus first. Seems pretty greedy to me even if that's probably the only map you can get away with it.


You can get away with nexus first on most maps actually vs T.
Lose Early game - Cheese. Lose Mid Game - All Ined. Lose Late Game - OMG IMBALANCE. My Guide to Zerg LR.
CrackerBoy
Profile Joined June 2011
Denmark26 Posts
July 21 2011 09:56 GMT
#750
On July 21 2011 18:53 CortoMontez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2011 18:52 CrackerBoy wrote:
On July 21 2011 18:49 XiGua wrote:
On July 21 2011 18:47 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
And we see why mech sucks:

MC does every single thing you can do wrong vs mech, then decides "fuck it, lets just counter attack" and mechanic shrivels over and dies. Seriously - he didnt expand, he didnt build cannons, he just a moved away a million units for nothing but still wins.

Mechanic is so bad - __ -

Balance whine! Joking.

I seriously think that something like spidermines needs to come back. Hellions are just not good enough, give them blueflame +10 against everything?


+10 everything might be a bit much...

On the plus side, it would be much less humiliating when I end up losing my nexus to hellions...


True. Thats is a good enough reason for me.
frogurt
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Australia907 Posts
July 21 2011 09:56 GMT
#751
MC will need to pee after downing that pepsi.
"Koreans own white dudes" -Moon
Crumpet
Profile Joined May 2011
United States137 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-21 09:57:08
July 21 2011 09:56 GMT
#752
One of the casters laughs just like Seth Green in Austin Powers. Keeps cracking me up lol
"Because boy bands are no match for fucking missiles." Day9
SniXSniPe
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1938 Posts
July 21 2011 09:56 GMT
#753
Hannibal only had 3 Factories.
Vapaach
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland994 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-21 09:57:42
July 21 2011 09:57 GMT
#754
On July 21 2011 18:52 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2011 18:50 Goibon wrote:
On July 21 2011 18:47 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
And we see why mech sucks:

MC does every single thing you can do wrong vs mech, then decides "fuck it, lets just counter attack" and mechanic shrivels over and dies. Seriously - he didnt expand, he didnt build cannons, he just a moved away a million units for nothing but still wins.

Mechanic is so bad - __ -

Please tell me its because siege tanks aren't as awesome as they were in BW.

Mostly no. Mostly its because P is 10x more mobile, mech has no space control, mech is completely unable to kill a far away protoss base without committing full army because of how good warp in is, and finally mech doesnt trade nearly as well as it did in SC1.

Of course when bio is so retardedly strong this doesnt actually make TvP imbalanced, it just makes mech shit.


Kind of funny you say that when you have beat MC twice with mech ^^

I think Hannibal lost because he was out of position, and half of his army was vikings. He lost 2 of his tanks for nothing, and had to fight the rest of the fight with unsieged tanks and hellions against archon/immortal/stalker.
If you never try you never know. Sase - Mana - TLO - WhiteRa - Naniwa - Sheth - HuK
wristuzi
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom1168 Posts
July 21 2011 09:57 GMT
#755
Gotta say the oGs-TL logo is now completely badass.
MarineKingPrime ¯\_(シ)_/¯ // Naniwa ¯\_(シ)_/¯ // Morrow
SafeAsCheese
Profile Joined June 2011
United States4924 Posts
July 21 2011 09:57 GMT
#756
On July 21 2011 18:56 ComTrav wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2011 18:55 ComusLoM wrote:
Hannibal lost because he built so many vikings. It's just not going to help him. especially since he has units that decimate stalker/collosus once the hellions kill all the zealots. He can afford to spread himself way thinner with mech. MC was also either great with the feedbacks or hannibal was terrible with his ghost control.

The blue flame hellions just kill the economy instantly. This type of mech should be great against protoss better executed.


Well, I hate to say this, but Terrans make two mistakes in TvP:

1. They build too many Vikings
2. They don't build enough Vikings


that's how ZvP worked for 9 months as well

1. You have enough corruptors to kill colossus
2. You die to colossus
flodeskum
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1267 Posts
July 21 2011 09:57 GMT
#757
On July 21 2011 18:53 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2011 18:52 CrackerBoy wrote:
On July 21 2011 18:49 XiGua wrote:
On July 21 2011 18:47 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
And we see why mech sucks:

MC does every single thing you can do wrong vs mech, then decides "fuck it, lets just counter attack" and mechanic shrivels over and dies. Seriously - he didnt expand, he didnt build cannons, he just a moved away a million units for nothing but still wins.

Mechanic is so bad - __ -

Balance whine! Joking.

I seriously think that something like spidermines needs to come back. Hellions are just not good enough, give them blueflame +10 against everything?


+10 everything might be a bit much...

Plus 10 everything would be the funniest thing ever, hellions would murder roaches LOL

It would be an AoE marauder with the speed of a zergling. Yep that would be good.
IdrA: " my fans are kinda retarded"
Nastiness
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden275 Posts
July 21 2011 09:57 GMT
#758
who is the prime zerg? bongbong?
There is no rest in the dark realm.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
July 21 2011 09:57 GMT
#759
On July 21 2011 18:56 Drazerk wrote:
Game Two on terminus

BBBB vs MC

MC is in the north

BBBB is in the south


2:30


Pool on the way for BBBB and he has finished his gas

Core starting for MC
XiGua
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden3085 Posts
July 21 2011 09:57 GMT
#760
On July 21 2011 18:56 ComTrav wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2011 18:55 ComusLoM wrote:
Hannibal lost because he built so many vikings. It's just not going to help him. especially since he has units that decimate stalker/collosus once the hellions kill all the zealots. He can afford to spread himself way thinner with mech. MC was also either great with the feedbacks or hannibal was terrible with his ghost control.

The blue flame hellions just kill the economy instantly. This type of mech should be great against protoss better executed.


Well, I hate to say this, but Terrans make two mistakes in TvP:

1. They build too many Vikings
2. They don't build enough Vikings

Same for each race I guess,

Zerg:
1. You build too many drones
2. You don't build enough drones

Protoss:
1. eh, I actually don't know... Scratch that.
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