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NeSE
Profile Joined July 2011
United States87 Posts
July 22 2011 20:10 GMT
#221
DomiNater, really great point. As for ItsGoSu eSports, they will be making a formal statement momentarily.
StrafedProtoss
Profile Joined July 2011
United States16 Posts
July 22 2011 20:47 GMT
#222
I have read much of the above concerns and it seems like people have more of a problem with the structure as if there wasn't ever going to be enough players. however i dont believe this could ever be an issue since there are the top 2% of players in master leagues across each realm and they are all capable of putting in a solid showing in this tournament setting. winning against a few people to win your entry back as well as moving on to have a chance at winning even more on top of that while playing sc2 at a semi-competitive lvl.

Also being able to watch or show the replays to your friends right there on the website, sounds like both a pretty solid idea as well as a good way to keep up on what some of the higher lvl players are using as current builds. I think way too many people have too much time on their hands, and sit on forums trying to put in their own judgement on things they don't, or aren't as informed on as they act like they are.

Both the structure and the idea of this tournament sounds like a cool alternative to grinding on the Ladder week after week. I know ill be checking it out and hopefully those people who chimed in b4 will be silenced once things come a little closer to the coming events.
"should have bought that observer brah"
GWaLK
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States184 Posts
July 22 2011 21:24 GMT
#223
tl.net pulling off the sponsored thread should speak volumes... waht its tl.net's official stand?
PTGL|GWaLK :: Owner/Head Admin of the Prime Time Gaming League. Visit us at www.ptgl.us!
ayesee
Profile Joined August 2010
United States59 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-23 00:40:53
July 22 2011 21:28 GMT
#224
Howdy folks. Ayesee, Executive Manager for It's Gosu eSports here.

First and foremost, I find it so encouraging that the enthusiasm and passion of everyone involved in our community leads to everyone looking out for everyone else, and turning a skeptical eye to anyone "new" they think might be operating with malicious intentions. While it's certainly an uncomfortable process for almost everyone involved, I think that everyone in this thread who has thrown in their two cents, be it involving skepticism or involving statements of patience and encouragement, deserves a pat on the back. It's this sort of attention to detail that makes our community as wonderful as it is.

With that said, in the case of Dannie and the NE-SE, I'm quite happy to say that he is 100% accurate concerning working with us to put together a tournament, and that, so far, he's been nothing but courteous and professional, and has given us absolutely no reason to doubt his integrity, or the integrity of his endeavors.

Just today, we made an announcement on It's Gosu concerning things. It can be read by clicking here.

In this announcement, I feel I addressed things about as concisely as possible:

“While the NE-SE is a brand new name on the eSports block, they approached us with as much courtesy and professionalism as one could possibly ask for,” Chambers, who also serves as an Executive Manager for It's Gosu eSports, said of the partnership. “They had a plan, and we have the talent and experience; really, it's an excellent match for what we're both looking to accomplish. They want to spread their name and visibility concerning their event, and we want to continue to serve the Starcraft II community in as large a way as possible.”

In reaction to concerns over the NE-SE's legitimacy, Chambers said: “Within 24 hours the monetary assets and support the NE-SE had promised was provided, and we're already taking all necessary steps to make this partnership and our event a success. While this is a new venture for everyone involved, they've done nothing to this point to make us, It's Gosu, doubt their legitimacy. In short, the checks have been on time, our contact has been consistent and forthright, and we can't wait to see how far this partnership can take us all.”


Concerning the tournament itself, tentatively titled the It's Gosu eSports Invitational, we will be releasing additional information in the next 24-48 hours on both It's Gosu and Team Liquid.

Once again, on behalf of It's Gosu and the rest of the TL community, I want to personally thank those who have been so adamant in insuring that things concerning the NE-SE are above board, and I can only hope that this post helps clarify things a bit.
ES_JohnClark
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1121 Posts
July 22 2011 21:47 GMT
#225
Will be interesting to see how this plays out. I wish it all the best of luck.
Still Naked!
KingGreasy
Profile Joined June 2011
United States162 Posts
July 22 2011 21:50 GMT
#226
Maybe that should be added to the OP to diffuse any skepticism.
TheTrueAmerican
Profile Joined April 2011
United States132 Posts
July 22 2011 21:51 GMT
#227
Good ways to make us think you are a giant tool bag
- Make your user name your product/website name.

strait from TL's posting guidelines.
G2Wolf
Profile Joined July 2010
United States261 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-22 21:54:00
July 22 2011 21:51 GMT
#228
On July 23 2011 05:47 StrafedProtoss wrote:
I have read much of the above concerns and it seems like people have more of a problem with the structure as if there wasn't ever going to be enough players. however i dont believe this could ever be an issue since there are the top 2% of players in master leagues across each realm and they are all capable of putting in a solid showing in this tournament setting. winning against a few people to win your entry back as well as moving on to have a chance at winning even more on top of that while playing sc2 at a semi-competitive lvl.

Also being able to watch or show the replays to your friends right there on the website, sounds like both a pretty solid idea as well as a good way to keep up on what some of the higher lvl players are using as current builds. I think way too many people have too much time on their hands, and sit on forums trying to put in their own judgement on things they don't, or aren't as informed on as they act like they are.

Both the structure and the idea of this tournament sounds like a cool alternative to grinding on the Ladder week after week. I know ill be checking it out and hopefully those people who chimed in b4 will be silenced once things come a little closer to the coming events.


People would take you more seriously if you'd stop making new accounts to pose as players when you work for ne-se. Most of the concerns are about the fact that tons of money doesn't just pop out of nowhere with no sponsors or apparent backing. Saying you have the backing for a $1.25 million dollar event when you can't even name the corporation doing it and have never run anything before, without any experienced staff, is just too good to be true. The structure is also set up to increase the companies profit by so much with so little effort.
As for the money being put up for It's Gosu, it's not hard to provide a couple hundred dollars when you plan on scamming people out of tens of thousands. Scam's been done before, just ask Chris Hill, organizer for CXG.
www.twitter.com/g2wolf
Magrath
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada292 Posts
July 22 2011 21:54 GMT
#229
I'll still wait for the announcement from Blizzard before I show my support.

I recommend you post a picture of the tournament structure that you have in your office you have mentioned multiple times. It may help alleviate some of the skepticism. You've gotten yourself in to a pickle now and the only way out is with a open book.
Anything can be acheived through persistence and thought
NeSE
Profile Joined July 2011
United States87 Posts
July 22 2011 22:24 GMT
#230
The tournament for Its GoSu eSports is not a "couple hundred bucks" there is a 1st Place Prize of $1,000, 2nd Place $500 and 3rd Place $250. We will also continue to sponsor and host more events similar to this one including many more events with Its GoSu eSports. I do thoroughly agree with ItsGoSu eSports and, as I previously have stated, it is not a bad sign at all that everyone is so concerned. Everyone has every right to be concerned and we have done everything we can at this point to show you all we are a legitimate organization.

We will still be featuring all of our formal announcements throughout Blizzard's StarCraft 2 web sites as scheduled. I am no longer going to be able to respond to people who are challenging our legitimacy, at this time all I can suggest to you is that you wait for the Blizzard announcements. If at that time you are still skeptical, I suggest you wait until after we have hosted a few events and earned your trust. We would really appreciate feedback on this thread though regarding things we can do differently. We have decided to change the map pool to the GSL map pool and will be making formal publications before the end of next week. We are also looking for feedback regarding the first 5 rounds of our event. Currently the event is a single elimination format for the first five rounds, people have suggested making these rounds BO3. If you could post your personal opinion here we would really appreciate it.

Furthermore, we are in the process of establishing more events than what you have read here with ItsGoSu and we need your feedback. We would love to test out some new formats and styles of tournaments, but we need some great ideas from the community. Post here and let us know what would be a great format for a tournament and if the public agrees we assure that event will be established inside the next four to six weeks.

On behalf of the NeSE, we thoroughly appreciate the concern of everyone displayed throughout this thread and we are looking forward to earning your trust and establishing ourselves throughout eSports.
GWaLK
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States184 Posts
July 23 2011 00:52 GMT
#231
@NeSE - a swiss style tourney, like blizzard use to do w/ wc3 3-4 times a week

if you dont know what it is, google it
<3
PTGL|GWaLK :: Owner/Head Admin of the Prime Time Gaming League. Visit us at www.ptgl.us!
Aberu
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States968 Posts
July 23 2011 16:49 GMT
#232
On July 23 2011 06:51 TheTrueAmerican wrote:
Good ways to make us think you are a giant tool bag
- Make your user name your product/website name.

strait from TL's posting guidelines.


MLG_Slasher
MLG_Lee
ICCUP_etcetera...etcetera...

You get the picture.

NASL.tv for crying out loud has a username called NASL.tv.
srsly
kedinik
Profile Joined September 2010
United States352 Posts
July 23 2011 17:14 GMT
#233
There are lots of avenues to use SC2 to make money, watch fun games and compete in fun games without paying $20 up front to an inexperienced middleman who plans to keep, what, 50% of the entry fees?

Questionable to keep such a big chunk of entry fees and questionable to guarantee such a big prize pool even if you don't get many sign ups.

Think it would make more sense if NeSe kept operating expenses plus a small percentage of the entry fees, and the rest of the money went straight into the prize pool to determine its size.

That's how WSOP does it; would really mitigate the "some guy who barely knows anything about the game is trying to scam players out of a lot of money" vibe that, honestly, this event gives off.
NeSE
Profile Joined July 2011
United States87 Posts
July 23 2011 19:47 GMT
#234
http://www.z33k.com/starcraft2/tournaments/2130-nese-1v1-open-qualifier-2

Z33K.com is hosting the NeSE Open Qualifier #2. The tourney is restricted to North American players.

Winners will receive:
1st Place = $250 + Free entry to the NeSE 1v1 Tournament A
2nd Place = Free entry to the NeSE 1v1 Tournament A

Registrations will take place over the next two weeks and game play will commence on the following weekend. Last qualifier's winners were sixjaxDDE and ONEKyhol, Congratulations again to them.

jazzbassmatt
Profile Joined August 2010
United States566 Posts
July 23 2011 20:25 GMT
#235
uhh I'm all for e-sports but this definitely seems like a scam
NeSE
Profile Joined July 2011
United States87 Posts
July 24 2011 00:04 GMT
#236
http://www.ne-se.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=21&sid=a87b17211d25490fb19a39cfce6b0633
goswser
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3519 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-24 00:22:52
July 24 2011 00:16 GMT
#237
So why are you making accounts and pretending to be someone else to post in this thread as? Or is that new, just created, one post account not really you?
Edit, also, entering seems kind of pointless unless you are one of the very top players....the way I see it, for people who don't expect to make the top few spots, entering is pointless. I have to beat four other high level players (because thats all who will enter it, just like with nasl), just to win my entrance fee back, have to beat 16 top players to win the same amount I payed to enter the tournament, and have to beat 64 players to earn a prize only equal to 3 times the fee I pay to get in. For example. the NASL season 2 qualifier had 128 players. Look at those players, split the bracket in half, and see if you would wager 20 dollars that you can beat everyone there on one half of the bracket, just to win 60 dollars.....
say you were born into a jungle indian tribe where food was scarce...would you run around from teepee to teepee stealing meat scraps after a day lazying around doing nothing except warming urself by a fire that you didn't even make yourself? -rekrul
NeSE
Profile Joined July 2011
United States87 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-24 00:30:13
July 24 2011 00:30 GMT
#238
No Newguy that post was not made by myself, I have been responding to everyone from this account, in my opinion creating another account like that would be pointless. It is quite clear that something as obvious as that at surface level would be immediately exploited by most.

That being said, the format of the tournament is designed to incorporate as many people as possibly and people of all rankings, that is the point. For the structure of the event; you only have to beat two players in order to win your entry fee back, and the tournament follows that exact format all the way to the last round. The last round we transition to a Round Robin where the final players will compete in two weeks of scheduled matches.

For a player to make their way all the way to the final round they need to go 10-0 which would land you in the Final Fifty.
miamibadboi
Profile Joined July 2010
United States27 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-24 02:38:29
July 24 2011 01:55 GMT
#239
This tournament is going to be great for e-sports. I like the round-by-round prizes. I'm a baddie diamond player though so I think I will try my hand in the 2v2 tournament. Hell, it's about time a serious 2v2 tournament popped up. They had 2v2 leagues in BW and it hasn't gotten popular in SC2 yet.
Magrath
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada292 Posts
July 24 2011 02:58 GMT
#240
Still haven't seen a proper brake down of the tournament/prize system. I'm sure everyone would benefit from you posting the one you have in your office.
Anything can be acheived through persistence and thought
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