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NeSE
Profile Joined July 2011
United States87 Posts
July 22 2011 08:13 GMT
#201
The payout structure is publicly posted and you can see it here throughout this forum as well as on our web site. You are asking for more information than that sir.

Joebob, we have already sponsored some small scale qualifier events and we are currently sponsoring a tournament with ItsGoSu eSports (if I type this again I'm for certain singing it in my sleep tonight if I ever get to sleep). We will also continue to host more events of this nature all the way through until registrations are over for Tournament A.

If you elect miss out on Tournament A because you assumed we were bad for business with the sacred $20, that is your own decision. This is also a free country so you can continuously post your feelings about the event just about anywhere. I can assure you that you have done me no favors in any of your posts and at no time did I get any sort of a vibe that you are attempting to assist me here.
NeSE
Profile Joined July 2011
United States87 Posts
July 22 2011 08:14 GMT
#202
On July 22 2011 17:12 G2Wolf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 17:02 NeSE wrote:
That is called a Personal Problem.


No, it's called being suspicious of a corporation that refuses to be named and is willing to spit out stupidly huge amounts of money with no promise for any kind of roi on it.


That is a more detailed description of a Personal Problem.
G2Wolf
Profile Joined July 2010
United States261 Posts
July 22 2011 08:17 GMT
#203
On July 22 2011 17:14 NeSE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 17:12 G2Wolf wrote:
On July 22 2011 17:02 NeSE wrote:
That is called a Personal Problem.


No, it's called being suspicious of a corporation that refuses to be named and is willing to spit out stupidly huge amounts of money with no promise for any kind of roi on it.


That is a more detailed description of a Personal Problem.

A personal problem because I highly HIGHLY doubt any corporation is gonna spend outrageous amounts of money without any kind of roi? No, that's simple business sense.
www.twitter.com/g2wolf
NeSE
Profile Joined July 2011
United States87 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-22 08:19:32
July 22 2011 08:18 GMT
#204
I assure you that your business sense is misleading you. On that note, I have to be heading off to bed I have several obligations first thing in the morning to tend to. I will absolutely be coming back to this thread tomorrow morning so please feel free to continue to post. If you would also prefer a more immediate response feel free to contact us at esports@ne-se.com.
Everize
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland176 Posts
July 22 2011 08:28 GMT
#205
People need something first before they believe in all you're saying, hosting a small tournament with a thousand or two of prize pool shouldn't be a problem and it would capture a ton of attention, especially enough to earn people's trust then, rather than basing everything on your words and faith, no proof, no trust. Wolf and Jinro are definitely correct in that matter.
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NeSE
Profile Joined July 2011
United States87 Posts
July 22 2011 08:29 GMT
#206
We are already sponsoring a tournament with ItsGoSu eSports $1,750 Total Prize Pool on August 3rd and 4th.
Jiddra
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2685 Posts
July 22 2011 10:49 GMT
#207
Why make this so complicated?

Just mail Blizzard and ask them if this tournament is legit before paying any fee. They have answered this kind of questions in the past, regarding sites claiming to sell merchandise from Blizzard and tournaments being held. at least in europe thay are very good at responding to this kind of things.

I can also mention that one of the worlds largest tournament organizer within esports, Greykarn at Dreamhack, tweeted about this tournament calling it a scam and demanding action from Blizzard.



I am not young enough to know everything.
drew-chan
Profile Joined July 2009
Malaysia1517 Posts
July 22 2011 11:17 GMT
#208
From all the replies from the organizer it seems that he merely wants to deflect questions calling them negative.

Sounds too much like a scam to me...

Perhaps this thread should be locked until the so called NeSE offers some actual usable evidence to these claims.
...
senex
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden25 Posts
July 22 2011 11:30 GMT
#209
Hmmm.
Vegas.
Potential pyramid scheme.
RICO act?
Made guys lurking in the shadows....

This thread reads like a movie script

BossDH
TadH
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1846 Posts
July 22 2011 11:31 GMT
#210
I read every page and I really want this to be true, it would be fucking awesome. I hope Blizzard can put my mind at ease and confirm this is legit.
teer
Profile Joined September 2010
United States189 Posts
July 22 2011 11:47 GMT
#211
Very interesting. I made a post about this before, after seeing the z33k tourney, but it got closed with a quickness. At first glance it does sound a bit fishy. I think it would help immeasurably to get a big name player on board to boost credibility or, for that matter, actually attain some. Seeing as how this would be a pretty large event I can't think of a reason you wouldnt want to get someone with recognition to back you.
SirRobin
Profile Joined December 2010
United States269 Posts
July 22 2011 15:45 GMT
#212
Yeah I just read the 11 pages.

Im reading a scam.

a big thing that made me O_o is that you make your profile and it instantly wants you to pay and there is no bio, no actual editing of a profile of any sort. Maybe after you pay? haha... cool...

https://twitter.com/SirRobinSC2
goswser
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3548 Posts
July 22 2011 16:29 GMT
#213
Who are your partners? Your partners are mentioned several times, and huge amounts of a prize pool is brought up, but no where is mentioned who these partners are. Why would the partners wish to remain anonymous? Corporations like advertising.
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Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
July 22 2011 16:47 GMT
#214
If it helps any, I've actually talked to this guy on the phone for almost an hour and I do believe that he and his event are legitimate. Sure he doesn't have established eSports people running it, but he does have a team of people dedicated to this and he is passionate about eSports.

While he may not have approached this thread the right way, don't let that detract from this project. If it's successful it will be awesome. I have faith in it.

Cheers
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ES_JohnClark
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1121 Posts
July 22 2011 16:48 GMT
#215
As the Director at Cyber Sports Network, I actually want to see this event happen and be a success. It will only help eSports, but my gut tells me there is something wrong with this. Maybe, I am envious of not having the sort of investment that his company appears to have.. I can admit to that, but most of me is feeling a bit strange about the circumstances behind this entire thing.

Now listen.. as I have been involved in running esports competitions for over 10 years.. very little people on this site even know who I am. I am not a SC2 player.. although I am enjoying watching it and seeing the drama that unfolds with it...but CSN ventured into running events just the same. No one had heard of us.. we were brand new. Granted, none of our admins were new to SC2.. as we had come from the NESL and we started our events by running small Clash of The Houses type events with well known Korean houses.. then moved onto to NA events with well established pros.

Why were we (CSN) able to do this without the same sort of back lash regarding our events? I think mostly because we started small and created a relationship with players and the community. If the money is real..and the event is real for this.. that is great, but my suggestion would have been for them to announce their smaller event (the one running on Aug 4/5) .. finish it.. pay out and then announce something big. The reason that NASL was able to announce a full fledged league + LAN final was because they had the backing of several top pros. Granted.. they even came off as a bit shady too. Why? Because they too offered up what looked like a very cheesy website, lack of information and such.. but in the end it was the 'relationships' they had created with the gamers and viewers that paid off and allowed them to move forward.

I would suggest, Dannie, that you start a new thread that speaks directly to the community and highlights your upcoming smaller events. Make sure you give details.. introduce yourself to the community as a player and esports enthusiest. I have no problem with the idea that money will be made from this. In fact.. that's a very good thing for esports. What you may not be aware of though is that in the past life of esports.. including CPL, CXG, etc.. there were models similar to yours (announce big events.. with big money.. blah blah)..that ended up milking gamers and not paying out. Scam or not.. your best bet is to start small at this point and build off of the good will of the players and community at large.

Now.. regarding the format and the prizing that seems to be a hot issue.

Here is how I imagined your system... similar to how I might run it.
Because your system allows for an unlimited number of entries and does not rely on a single bracket system.. this is how I would see it happening.. and correct me if I am wrong.

Lets assume 64 players sign up ..
You are using a system called .. "Bracket Series".. which are a unlimited number of 'small' brackets where the winners of each of those brackets move into the next 'round'.. where they are then regrouped into new (and random) brackets of 4. The process continues until you have the desired number of 'finalist'

64 entries = 16 (4 person) brackets

16 winners then regrouped into 4 more (4 person) brackets

From there you will have 4 winners that can then battle for the finals.

This is the simple version.

So.. 64 entries = $1280.00 in entry fees

The first 16 winners win $20 each for a total of $320
Profit from the 1st round is currently at $960.00

The next winners (4) win $40 each for a total of $160.00
Profit after 2 rounds now is $800

The final winner (1) will now win $80 (doubling each time if I am correct)
Profit after 3 rounds is now $720.

This make sense to me and is a pretty sound business investment. Even if you put an additional $300 into the final.. your profit is still $420.. This is good.. and a solid business model, as winners earning are increased each round and all is good. Granted, the losers are feeding the winners..but that happens in almost every sport. Technically.. if this is your setup.. I see nothing wrong with it....however.. there is so much confusion with it and its even possible that my math is wrong as well.. but if that is the case, then its a perfect example of why the system/payout needs to be outlined much better and with more detail.

I suggest that as community.. we continue to dig into this.. but we be patient with it and see where it takes us. I agree that it was a smart move on TL's part to remove it as a featured event and allow the community to decide on its value/validity. But again.. my suggest to the company organizers is to start small.. and build a 'relationship' with the community.

my 3 cents...
Still Naked!
Sandro
Profile Joined April 2011
897 Posts
July 22 2011 17:42 GMT
#216
So is this thing legitimate or what? Has Blizzard made a statement yet?
mavsfan0041
Profile Joined February 2011
United States306 Posts
July 22 2011 18:30 GMT
#217
On July 23 2011 02:42 Sandro wrote:
So is this thing legitimate or what? Has Blizzard made a statement yet?

He said that Blizzard is going to announce it on the first of August. So no not yet.
R.I.P. CheckSix
NeSE
Profile Joined July 2011
United States87 Posts
July 22 2011 18:34 GMT
#218
JohnClark,

I agree with you, we will begin putting some smaller stuff together and taking a smaller outreach over the next few weeks. We are going to begin by finalizing these aspects of the ItsGoSu eSports tournament and post that throughout.

KingGreasy
Profile Joined June 2011
United States162 Posts
July 22 2011 19:12 GMT
#219
To legitimize this why can't we get a statement from It's Gosu Esports. They're a known esports brand and them confirming to work with NeSE should be fine to prove the reality of this tournament.
DomiNater
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States527 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-22 19:53:04
July 22 2011 19:52 GMT
#220
On July 22 2011 19:49 Jiddra wrote:
Why make this so complicated?

Just mail Blizzard and ask them if this tournament is legit before paying any fee. They have answered this kind of questions in the past, regarding sites claiming to sell merchandise from Blizzard and tournaments being held. at least in europe thay are very good at responding to this kind of things.

I can also mention that one of the worlds largest tournament organizer within esports, Greykarn at Dreamhack, tweeted about this tournament calling it a scam and demanding action from Blizzard.

https://twitter.com/#!/greykarn/status/94339533201620992



So we can assume that G2Wolf = greykarn on Twitter?

Most of his tweets read very similar to the posts made by G2Wolf in this thread.
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