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On July 13 2011 19:18 DystopiaX wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2011 19:17 BookII wrote:On July 13 2011 19:13 DystopiaX wrote:On July 13 2011 19:11 BookII wrote:On July 13 2011 19:09 ShootingStars wrote:On July 13 2011 19:08 BookII wrote:On July 13 2011 19:05 ShootingStars wrote:
no fucking johns about jetlag people, stop complaining its a tournament I probably wouldn't say it in those words. But I agree. Players, I believe for the most part choose what tournaments to enter knowing the details so I don't think it's an excuse if they lose. Of course, bad luck in when your match is scheduled or what group you get picked in does play a part. yeah sorry i just hate it when people complain about lag/jetlag/etc Yeah that's fair enough. It is rather frustrating as I and most people probably prefer the credit going to the winner and their ability to win whether it's a slugfest or dominating performance. You can see the jetlag but you're right, it's not an okay excuse. The problem with that statement is that the credit should go to the winner for playing better than a jetlagged person, yes, but it's not as impressive had they played the same player without jetlag. You're playing undoubtedly a worse player at that point, so while the winner may play well there's still the question of how well the other player could have done... Yeah no doubt that question is still there. But both players know tournament schedules before they enter and would know if they will have to travel and if they will have jetlag. In knowing this, I feel the accomplishment of the player without jetlag shouldn't be diminished by saying the other player had jetlag. But you're probably right, I can't tell people how to think, and some will think a player lost cause of jetlag regardless of them knowing beforehand. The problem with that argument is that when they signed up for NASL they knew the NASl finals date but not the Code S schedule, or at least which group they'd be in/what day they'd be playing. So there's a bit of a chance but you can't say they knew for sure.
haha someone likes pointing out problems in my posts 
But yes, you're very right, they may not have known the Code S schedule. I guess i'm wishing for some kind of perfect world scenario. Still, I'll just say I hope jetlag isn't used as an excuse very often, cause I like winners getting credit. That's all.
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On July 13 2011 19:20 EchelonTee wrote:
don't...know...who... to cheer for *.*
This...
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I hope MC took Artosis' advice and took a tonne of drugs to keep him alert.
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On July 13 2011 19:20 noezke wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2011 19:19 RPR_Tempest wrote:On July 13 2011 19:19 Flaunt wrote:On July 13 2011 19:18 RPR_Tempest wrote:
Why do people still call it WWF? It hasn't been the WWF in like 10 years. because it was only good when it was wwf Great, more blind nostalgia. Lets face it, it was always awful.
Yeah, you were just more gullible/impressionable when you were younger lol
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Come on Huk I has faith in you
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On July 13 2011 19:19 Omer wrote:
hmm so huk beat two people in ro32 in the same month....
yeah, it's called the group stages...
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On July 13 2011 19:20 dani` wrote:
MC has the hottest girl announcer by a long shot, he will win!
I agree with the first bit
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MC with the hotter girl - does it mean instant win?
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I want huk to win so nestea is almost guaranteed finals.
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On July 13 2011 19:19 cassurai wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2011 19:19 gniketan wrote:Does it say he's 9-1 vs Protoss but his timeline show 2 losses to  Alicia? 9-1 in series?
Or it might be because they exclude world tournament stats from Code S stats? Not sure oO
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MC doesn't eliminate maps, he eliminates opponents.
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On July 13 2011 19:20 DystopiaX wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2011 19:19 Killerkrack wrote:On July 13 2011 19:19 pdd wrote:
Btw, who's the guy in between Lee and Sundance? Clap, he's been involved with MLG since the beginning. I don't know his actual job title or anything though. Forum administrator, pretty sure he does other stuff too.
He is league ops
The big guys incontrol is afraid off at MLG's.
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Chris Loranger FIGHTING! Jang Min Chul FIGHTING!
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MC no maps eliminated, BOSSTOSS
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On July 13 2011 19:20 Sc2Null wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2011 19:15 Poopi wrote:On July 13 2011 19:13 cENTRYZ wrote:On July 13 2011 19:11 SxYSpAz wrote:On July 13 2011 19:08 Laggy wrote:On July 13 2011 19:07 MCDayC wrote:
Awww, Artosis considers Sen on a level with Nestea. Apparently. He is, if not just below it. Sen is a fucking beast. no one is on level with nestea. Since artosis nearly sparked my love for nestea i'm surprised to hear him say that. But Nestea is much better. + Show Spoiler +If Nestea were in sens position in NASL he would have been thorough and scouted vrays and ended up winning. just one small example I dont see anyone in the world atm beating Nestea in a bo7, so I agree with you. The only guy who would have been close to beating him, would be MC, if he is lucky with maps & has practiced alot. There are so many terrans that can beat NesTea bo7 that you would be surprised. Really?? Names? The only one that comes to mind is either IMMVP(his teammate)...and honestly besides that idk.
Top, sC, PuMa, maybe NaDa and Polt now with the Summer holiday, a pissed MKP?
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On July 13 2011 19:17 Aesop wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2011 19:14 SxYSpAz wrote:On July 13 2011 19:10 Aesop wrote:On July 13 2011 19:04 Jehct wrote:
This actually seems like one of the highest level ZvP's so far (this GSL). The attacks aren't perfect or each engagement ideal but that's something that happens when it isn't just 'deathball' style; if there are 20 engagements instead of 2 of course a few are going to be imperfect. There was so much multitask going on and such well timed transitions; I think Tastosis' commentary is making people think this game is worse than it is. I sort of agree. I wouldn't say "highest level", but I am sure that Hongun knew more clearly what he could do and what he not than the commentators in this case. Blink stalkers can trade quite effectively, even if the Zerg manages to overwhelm them eventually. In the end, it forces Z to continually produce and you can wear him down. So while the execution was lacking at points, I think the overall concept was valid. I think Honguns play was good, and he clearly was just using an unconventional strategy that Tastosis didn't agree with, but i wouldn't say it was highest level either, mostly due to zenios part, who was clearly struggling with an awkward situation, but he was definitely engaging a lot when he shouldn't i.e. kiting chargelots and then chasing them back to their huge freaking army! he was getting free kills and then decided to push on colli/storms. teh fuck? It's not even that unconventional. I think it followed the general maxims from the " Chinese PvZ" which relies on efficient trading with blink Stalkers and upgrade advantage until you have built up a composition you can win with.
I just dont know why everyone hate HongUn.He has improved a lot in PvZ
Moreover,that's entertaining series indeed
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On July 13 2011 19:20 BookII wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2011 19:18 DystopiaX wrote:On July 13 2011 19:17 BookII wrote:On July 13 2011 19:13 DystopiaX wrote:On July 13 2011 19:11 BookII wrote:On July 13 2011 19:09 ShootingStars wrote:On July 13 2011 19:08 BookII wrote:On July 13 2011 19:05 ShootingStars wrote:
no fucking johns about jetlag people, stop complaining its a tournament I probably wouldn't say it in those words. But I agree. Players, I believe for the most part choose what tournaments to enter knowing the details so I don't think it's an excuse if they lose. Of course, bad luck in when your match is scheduled or what group you get picked in does play a part. yeah sorry i just hate it when people complain about lag/jetlag/etc Yeah that's fair enough. It is rather frustrating as I and most people probably prefer the credit going to the winner and their ability to win whether it's a slugfest or dominating performance. You can see the jetlag but you're right, it's not an okay excuse. The problem with that statement is that the credit should go to the winner for playing better than a jetlagged person, yes, but it's not as impressive had they played the same player without jetlag. You're playing undoubtedly a worse player at that point, so while the winner may play well there's still the question of how well the other player could have done... Yeah no doubt that question is still there. But both players know tournament schedules before they enter and would know if they will have to travel and if they will have jetlag. In knowing this, I feel the accomplishment of the player without jetlag shouldn't be diminished by saying the other player had jetlag. But you're probably right, I can't tell people how to think, and some will think a player lost cause of jetlag regardless of them knowing beforehand. The problem with that argument is that when they signed up for NASL they knew the NASl finals date but not the Code S schedule, or at least which group they'd be in/what day they'd be playing. So there's a bit of a chance but you can't say they knew for sure. haha someone likes pointing out problems in my posts But yes, you're very right, they may not have known the Code S schedule. I guess i'm wishing for some kind of perfect world scenario. Still, I'll just say I hope jetlag isn't used as an excuse very often, cause I like winners getting credit. That's all.
I definitely agree, I just think that you shouldn't give winners more credit than they deserve lol. Not trying to shoot down your ideas or anything, I just don't think that winners should get complete credit no matter what.
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