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On July 11 2011 12:07 Ruscour wrote: So Xeris said that mOOnGLaDe gets in if NaNiwa is out...what's the dealio with that then?
Do you remember where he said that bychance?
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On July 11 2011 11:44 Ciraxis wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2011 11:35 chadissilent wrote: 10 North Americans out of 45 players in the North American StarLeague. Awesome. Yes. Exactly. It's really ridiculous. I do agree players from other continents should participate, but the imbalance here is just too wide.
If anything is imbalanced is that 10 is still too many North Americans in the tournament. I want to watch the best players play. A tournament with a $100,000 prize pool and 80k+ viewers deserves the best players. You could count the number of North Americans who are legitimate threats to win their groups on one hand. Even if you prefer to watch North American players over European and Korean ones, there's no enjoyment to be had watching them get stomped week after week.
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On July 11 2011 12:07 julianto wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2011 11:44 Ciraxis wrote:On July 11 2011 11:35 chadissilent wrote: 10 North Americans out of 45 players in the North American StarLeague. Awesome. Yes. Exactly. It's really ridiculous. I do agree players from other continents should participate, but the imbalance here is just too wide. If there was a North American-only tournament, you wouldn't have as many viewers and payers.
exactly,
just look at wimbledon, when was the last time an englishman won that grand slam? should the french open only allow french players to compete?
the name of the tournament is redundant, it is the competitors that matter.
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On July 11 2011 10:38 Chriscras wrote:Players cut from NASL Season 1: mOOnGLaDe 3-6 (9-13) -4 Tyler 3-6 (8-13) -5 RainBOw 3-6 (8-13) -5 ClouD 3-6 (8-14) -6 ViBE 3-6 (6-12) -6 SLush 3-6 (8-15) -7 HayprO 2-7 (6-14) -8 GoOdy 2-7 (7-16) -9 Machine 2-7 (7-16) -9 KawaiiRice 2-7 (6-15) -9 Drewbie 2-7 (5-15) -10 CatZ 1-8 (7-16) -9 Grubby 1-8 (6-17) -11 qxc 1-8 (5-17) -12 Artosis 1-8 (2-16) -14 PainUser 0-9 (2-18) -16 Note: Moonglade, Tyler and/or Rainbow may replace Naniwa, TLO and/or Stalife if any of them decide not to partcipate in Season 2.Edit: Stalife confirmed his withdrawal below ----> 2nd Edit: NVM apparently none of these players will serve as replacements, Season 2 only has 45 players and the runners up in the open qualifier are the standbys...
Damn, i <3: qxc grubby cloud catz and i'll miss drewbies BM
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To be quite honest the only NA players who might make a deep run next season is Sheth/IdrA and SeleCT.
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Such a strong player pool, tho I fear for our North American team. I'm hoping Kiwikaki just goes beastmode on the world and starts pwning.
Definitely gonna buy season 2's ticket. It's clear that NASL wants to be taken seriously and now they've (finally) worked out the kinks.
Some of the cuts are a bit of a shame, but I'm really excited about all those who qualified, especially Nightend (who got snubbed from the invites, it's LEGENDARY that he fought his way through the open) and Thorzain, oh and also MKP.
Shame that Grubby only started improving right at the end of this season, but he had his chance last season, now he's just gotta get into Season 3 the hard way.
Edit: PS, thanks SO much for making this thread, it's very handy and is getting me hyped already.
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What is really turns out to be is the EU + NA vs KR, Group play is really going to be about what foreigners can take games off of Korans and there is only a handful at that. The foreigner community is really going to have to step it up NA and EU or the NASL is going to look like this
35 Team Korea
5 Team EU
5Team NA
While i love to root for foreigner there is only a couple that i can see taking games off top koreans like MC
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On July 11 2011 11:46 jmbthirteen wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2011 11:44 Ciraxis wrote:On July 11 2011 11:35 chadissilent wrote: 10 North Americans out of 45 players in the North American StarLeague. Awesome. Yes. Exactly. It's really ridiculous. I do agree players from other continents should participate, but the imbalance here is just too wide. You want region balance? Thats just absurd. I want the best games possible. NA players need to step it up and EARN their spots.
I couldn't agree more. I'd much rather see NA players step their games up and play the highest level games they can rather than being seeded just for the sake of "regional balance." If there are only a handful of good enough North Americans, then so be it.
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On July 11 2011 12:23 Quintum_ wrote: What is really turns out to be is the EU + NA vs KR, Group play is really going to be about what foreigners can take games off of Korans and there is only a handful at that. The foreigner community is really going to have to step it up NA and EU or the NASL is going to look like this
35 Team Korea
5 Team EU
5Team NA
While i love to root for foreigner there is only a couple that i can see taking games off top koreans like MC
Na man, team EU is almost as strong as team Korea this time around I think. Team Korea only has three players I would consider to be top koreans: MC, MKP, and Puma (and Puma's legitimacy is still in question, but he certainly impressed me tonight). July is a close runner up of course.
While those three are the top who will be difficult to beat, team EU has some truely stellar players, and Thorzain might actually be BETTER than even those three Koreans I just mentioned, after he trains up a bit in korea... It's gonna be exciting.
So I wouldn't expect team EU to get cut down to a third...
Team NA though... yeah they have some SERIOUS work to do. We need HuK in this SO bad to rep NA. (And don't give me that "he's trained in korea nonsense, if he played in the NASL, he would be the iconic representation of North America, being both Canadian and American).
Edit: And yeah, as long as it's the highest level of play, I'm happy, but I REALLY hope the north americans start really kicking it into gear here. I hate having to cheer on Idra.
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I hope they do a GSL type style for the groups next season, though change it up a bit for balance.
Start with Puma, he picks a player, maybe a foreigner or a P/Z for balance. Then MC will pick a player, again, a foreigner or a T/Z. Then Sen Then July Then one of DF, Select, Moon or Squirtle.
And get your groups that way.
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On July 11 2011 12:33 Dexington wrote: I hope they do a GSL type style for the groups next season, though change it up a bit for balance.
Start with Puma, he picks a player, maybe a foreigner or a P/Z for balance. Then MC will pick a player, again, a foreigner or a T/Z. Then Sen Then July Then one of DF, Select, Moon or Squirtle.
And get your groups that way.
Yea bro thats the best plan ever ( TROLL) "" SeleCT ehhhh i pick maker Nasl commentator: why ? SeleCT : well he sucks so we all agreed to take sucky players in so we all get into season 2 finals and earn 1500 just for showing up.
dude rlly wake up ^^ that plan would be rofl dont forget there in there for the money
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On July 11 2011 12:11 AustinCM wrote: Why is this called the North American Star League when North America is the least represented of the 3 major starcraft groups.
I believe it's because the tournament takes place in North America, I don't think the league should prohibit or limit the top players of the sport simply because they aren't in the region the competition takes place in (Barring any travel complications, of course).
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On July 11 2011 12:30 TheDougler wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2011 12:23 Quintum_ wrote: What is really turns out to be is the EU + NA vs KR, Group play is really going to be about what foreigners can take games off of Korans and there is only a handful at that. The foreigner community is really going to have to step it up NA and EU or the NASL is going to look like this
35 Team Korea
5 Team EU
5Team NA
While i love to root for foreigner there is only a couple that i can see taking games off top koreans like MC
Na man, team EU is almost as strong as team Korea this time around I think. Team Korea only has three players I would consider to be top koreans: MC, MKP, and Puma (and Puma's legitimacy is still in question, but he certainly impressed me tonight). July is a close runner up of course. While those three are the top who will be difficult to beat, team EU has some truely stellar players, and Thorzain might actually be BETTER than even those three Koreans I just mentioned, after he trains up a bit in korea... It's gonna be exciting. So I wouldn't expect team EU to get cut down to a third... Team NA though... yeah they have some SERIOUS work to do. We need HuK in this SO bad to rep NA. (And don't give me that "he's trained in korea nonsense, if he played in the NASL, he would be the iconic representation of North America, being both Canadian and American). Edit: And yeah, as long as it's the highest level of play, I'm happy, but I REALLY hope the north americans start really kicking it into gear here. I hate having to cheer on Idra. Man you are crazy if you think yeam eu is as strong as team korea. Team korea has dominated the last mlg, dreamhack and now nasl. EU players would have done better in all three of these tournaments if that was true.
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On July 11 2011 12:43 Shadowcloak wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2011 12:33 Dexington wrote: I hope they do a GSL type style for the groups next season, though change it up a bit for balance.
Start with Puma, he picks a player, maybe a foreigner or a P/Z for balance. Then MC will pick a player, again, a foreigner or a T/Z. Then Sen Then July Then one of DF, Select, Moon or Squirtle.
And get your groups that way. Yea bro thats the best plan ever ( TROLL) "" SeleCT ehhhh i pick maker Nasl commentator: why ? SeleCT : well he sucks so we all agreed to take sucky players in so we all get into season 2 finals and earn 1500 just for showing up. dude rlly wake up ^^ that plan would be rofl dont forget there in there for the money
wat?
They have to divide the 45 players up some how. I didn't say random fucking players. Who is Maker?
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On July 11 2011 12:54 Dexington wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2011 12:43 Shadowcloak wrote:On July 11 2011 12:33 Dexington wrote: I hope they do a GSL type style for the groups next season, though change it up a bit for balance.
Start with Puma, he picks a player, maybe a foreigner or a P/Z for balance. Then MC will pick a player, again, a foreigner or a T/Z. Then Sen Then July Then one of DF, Select, Moon or Squirtle.
And get your groups that way. Yea bro thats the best plan ever ( TROLL) "" SeleCT ehhhh i pick maker Nasl commentator: why ? SeleCT : well he sucks so we all agreed to take sucky players in so we all get into season 2 finals and earn 1500 just for showing up. dude rlly wake up ^^ that plan would be rofl dont forget there in there for the money wat? They have to divide the 45 players up some how. I didn't say random fucking players. Who is Maker? A mexican terran player (not another Major's alias)
Any idea as to why only 45 players for the next season?
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On July 11 2011 10:41 Chriscras wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2011 10:40 stalife wrote:Im not playing in season 2. So someone from season 1 that got "cut" might be safe Why are you withdrawing Stalife?
I can't/don't want to make time for NASL anymore. Almost all of my matches were during my 2 hour "lunch breaks" from work. It's bad in every single level possible. Having to play my first game of the day (no warm up) against players like MC, Ret, Ace, Select, is not something I want... Not to mention I would not want a long drawn out games b/c I'm on my "lunch break". This results in showing bad results, sloppy games, which is not only bad for myself and my team, but also the viewers as well. I wanted to withdraw in the middle, but I decided to continue playing it out.
I bought the HD pass for season 1 and I'm sure I'll buy it for season 2 as well. NASL continues to improve a lot and after a great season 1 playoffs, I'm looking forward to season 2!
Good luck to season 2 players :D
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On July 11 2011 10:26 Stanlot wrote: As cool as it is that Puma won his first major tournament today, I hope NASL considers removing the open tournament slot in the grand finals bracket of the coming seasons. If I'm not mistaken, the competitors of season 2 and on earn their spots through a qualifier, right? Then there should be no reason for anyone to complain about anyone making it to the finals because they'll have played through the entire league and earned their place. As skilled as Puma is, it feels a bit wrong in my heart that someone who didn't dedicate 9 weeks of group play to the tournament come in and swept the whole thing.
Again, I'm not saying Puma isn't skilled or that he didn't earn his place in the finals. He beat a whole host of amazing players in the open tournament and wiped out even bigger names in the grand finals to win it all. I'm just saying that perhaps there shouldn't be a slot for anyone to just play one day's worth of games to get in while the rest of the players had to play over a course of 9 or so weeks and ungodly hours.
I agree. They have had an open tournament for some of the invites for season 2. Why the hell do they have another open to put a person in the finals. The world cup would not have a second round of qualifiers to put someone in the playoffs after group stage.
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On July 11 2011 12:03 pusmoh wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2011 11:57 Rasun wrote: Does anyone know if DRG played in the qualifier? He is the Korean that I most want to see in foreigner tournaments but he doesn't seem to be in any, I hope that changes quick, I love DRG. Nobody from mvp played sadly.
Really?!?!? Whyyyy?!?!?!?! I didn't notice that, I think almost all of the major teams were represented in the qualifier, is that correct? Seems odd for them not to enter, its not like they have a huge number of players in Code S/A currently.
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On July 11 2011 13:03 stalife wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2011 10:41 Chriscras wrote:On July 11 2011 10:40 stalife wrote:Im not playing in season 2. So someone from season 1 that got "cut" might be safe Why are you withdrawing Stalife? I can't/don't want to make time for NASL anymore. Almost all of my matches were during my 2 hour "lunch breaks" from work. It's bad in every single level possible. Having to play my first game of the day (no warm up) against players like MC, Ret, Ace, Select, is not something I want... Not to mention I would not want a long drawn out games b/c I'm on my "lunch break". This results in showing bad results, sloppy games, which is not only bad for myself and my team, but also the viewers as well. I wanted to withdraw in the middle, but I decided to continue playing it out. I bought the HD pass for season 1 and I'm sure I'll buy it for season 2 as well. NASL continues to improve a lot and after a great season 1 playoffs, I'm looking forward to season 2! Good luck to season 2 players :D
Quite classy of you.
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