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Phaded
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia579 Posts
June 06 2011 05:43 GMT
#521
He seemed to be in a 'not quite quitting mode yet' two weeks ago

Posted May 25
@followgrubby Hey we should practice some with weekend. We can't both go winless NASL -_-

http://twitter.com/#!/PainUser/status/73794551269179392
I am down but I am far from over
StaplerPhone
Profile Joined March 2011
United States813 Posts
June 06 2011 05:43 GMT
#522
I'm really disappointed that Painuser has just given up. If you sign up for the tournament at least put in the effort to see it through.
NaDa | MC | HerO | DeMusliM | TaeJa | viOLet
Paradice
Profile Joined October 2010
New Zealand431 Posts
June 06 2011 05:44 GMT
#523
On June 06 2011 14:29 bennyaus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 14:27 statik wrote:
On June 06 2011 14:24 reneg wrote:
On June 06 2011 14:21 statik wrote:
so nasl said they have been trying to contact pu for weeks? don't get why they'd still wake up boxer at 3 am.


because if they didn't wake him up, and PU DID happen to not flake out, then they'd have to explain to boxer why they gave PU a walkover on him, because they "couldn't be bothered to wake him up."

Which would be about 10,000 times worse for the community.


i'd doubt that after weeks of no contact or replies to emails/calls that they'd give pu a walkover over boxer.


"Weeks of no contact" is an exaggeration. NASL employees have spoken to PU within the last 2 weeks, as I already explained. It is most likely that NASL only ever tries to contact people on the day of their game if they fail to show up. In which case they just assume that PU was going to show up despite the fact that he publicly announced that he can't reschedule his NASL games due to work, and he is stepping back from gaming.


Which is where the "middle school break up" analogy comes from. He drops hints to other kids at school about how he's focusing on something new, but he never rings up NASL and says it's over.
Which is why he's getting all the hate.

I honestly don't know how you can defend his situation. He's shit all over the opportunity NASL gave him, and not had the decency to contact them. The fact that Geoff has a skype call with him on another show is totally irrelevant - Geoff isn't representing NASL on Inside the Game, and made no comment when PU started complaining about NASL not changing their schedule to accommodate him after he signed up to something new which conflicted with his prior NASL agreement.

Geoff isn't obligated to seek him out outside of work hours to tell him to get his shit together, in fact it would be unprofessional of him to do so. The blame is 100% with PainBurger.
StaplerPhone
Profile Joined March 2011
United States813 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-06 05:46:26
June 06 2011 05:46 GMT
#524
On June 06 2011 14:44 Paradice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 14:29 bennyaus wrote:
On June 06 2011 14:27 statik wrote:
On June 06 2011 14:24 reneg wrote:
On June 06 2011 14:21 statik wrote:
so nasl said they have been trying to contact pu for weeks? don't get why they'd still wake up boxer at 3 am.


because if they didn't wake him up, and PU DID happen to not flake out, then they'd have to explain to boxer why they gave PU a walkover on him, because they "couldn't be bothered to wake him up."

Which would be about 10,000 times worse for the community.


i'd doubt that after weeks of no contact or replies to emails/calls that they'd give pu a walkover over boxer.


"Weeks of no contact" is an exaggeration. NASL employees have spoken to PU within the last 2 weeks, as I already explained. It is most likely that NASL only ever tries to contact people on the day of their game if they fail to show up. In which case they just assume that PU was going to show up despite the fact that he publicly announced that he can't reschedule his NASL games due to work, and he is stepping back from gaming.


Which is where the "middle school break up" analogy comes from. He drops hints to other kids at school about how he's focusing on something new, but he never rings up NASL and says it's over.
Which is why he's getting all the hate.

I honestly don't know how you can defend his situation. He's shit all over the opportunity NASL gave him, and not had the decency to contact them. The fact that Geoff has a skype call with him on another show is totally irrelevant - Geoff isn't representing NASL on Inside the Game, and made no comment when PU started complaining about NASL not changing their schedule to accommodate him after he signed up to something new which conflicted with his prior NASL agreement.

Geoff isn't obligated to seek him out outside of work hours to tell him to get his shit together, in fact it would be unprofessional of him to do so. The blame is 100% with PainBurger.


Oh god, I was reading your comment seriously then read the last sentence and burst out laughing.
NaDa | MC | HerO | DeMusliM | TaeJa | viOLet
nokz88
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil1253 Posts
June 06 2011 05:47 GMT
#525
On June 06 2011 14:29 bennyaus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 14:27 statik wrote:
On June 06 2011 14:24 reneg wrote:
On June 06 2011 14:21 statik wrote:
so nasl said they have been trying to contact pu for weeks? don't get why they'd still wake up boxer at 3 am.


because if they didn't wake him up, and PU DID happen to not flake out, then they'd have to explain to boxer why they gave PU a walkover on him, because they "couldn't be bothered to wake him up."

Which would be about 10,000 times worse for the community.


i'd doubt that after weeks of no contact or replies to emails/calls that they'd give pu a walkover over boxer.


"Weeks of no contact" is an exaggeration. NASL employees have spoken to PU within the last 2 weeks, as I already explained. It is most likely that NASL only ever tries to contact people on the day of their game if they fail to show up. In which case they just assume that PU was going to show up despite the fact that he publicly announced that he can't reschedule his NASL games due to work, and he is stepping back from gaming.


Dude, that thing you did right there... is your assumption. We can't work with assumptions, and we don't have information from both of the parties, so we work with the next best thing, information from one of the parties.

Information we got: NASL has been trying to contact PU for weeks, with no success.
Partial conclusion: 100% Painuser's fault.

I will reserve my final conclusion until I hear from PU himself, but things aren't looking so bright.

And one more thing, you can't do that thing you just said, you just can't.
I can't tell my employer "hey, I quit my job. Didn't you see me on the News yesterday? I told everyone so." That's fucking ridiculous. I MUST send a formal letter directly to them.

God the amount of ignorance here is mind-blowing. Seriously do you people have a job? Can you pull these no-show moves in your job? Tell me I will frickin' throw away my IT job for that.
in a state of trance
Paradice
Profile Joined October 2010
New Zealand431 Posts
June 06 2011 05:48 GMT
#526
On June 06 2011 14:41 Batssa wrote:
I can understand Painuser's mentality of -- "I already lost, why try to win a losing battle?" in regard to his record, but for some reason it doesn't seem appropriate in this community. I have heard and felt the same mentality before in jobs and various tournaments.


You're missing the point. PainBurger is 0-7. No one is complaining because he gave up on the tournament (although some question why you would ever pass up an opportunity to play the Emperor, regardless of any other factors).

People are angry because he didn't contact them to say as much, thus wasting the time of the entire NASL staff and ruining Boxer's night's sleep.
bennyaus
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia1833 Posts
June 06 2011 05:48 GMT
#527
On June 06 2011 14:44 Paradice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 14:29 bennyaus wrote:
On June 06 2011 14:27 statik wrote:
On June 06 2011 14:24 reneg wrote:
On June 06 2011 14:21 statik wrote:
so nasl said they have been trying to contact pu for weeks? don't get why they'd still wake up boxer at 3 am.


because if they didn't wake him up, and PU DID happen to not flake out, then they'd have to explain to boxer why they gave PU a walkover on him, because they "couldn't be bothered to wake him up."

Which would be about 10,000 times worse for the community.


i'd doubt that after weeks of no contact or replies to emails/calls that they'd give pu a walkover over boxer.


"Weeks of no contact" is an exaggeration. NASL employees have spoken to PU within the last 2 weeks, as I already explained. It is most likely that NASL only ever tries to contact people on the day of their game if they fail to show up. In which case they just assume that PU was going to show up despite the fact that he publicly announced that he can't reschedule his NASL games due to work, and he is stepping back from gaming.


Which is where the "middle school break up" analogy comes from. He drops hints to other kids at school about how he's focusing on something new, but he never rings up NASL and says it's over.
Which is why he's getting all the hate.

I honestly don't know how you can defend his situation. He's shit all over the opportunity NASL gave him, and not had the decency to contact them. The fact that Geoff has a skype call with him on another show is totally irrelevant - Geoff isn't representing NASL on Inside the Game, and made no comment when PU started complaining about NASL not changing their schedule to accommodate him after he signed up to something new which conflicted with his prior NASL agreement.

Geoff isn't obligated to seek him out outside of work hours to tell him to get his shit together, in fact it would be unprofessional of him to do so. The blame is 100% with PainBurger.


I agree about the last sentence, and I'm disappointed as the next person, but to say NASL has been going out of there way to find out what is going on with Painuser is simply not the case.
I play Random - HuK, DRG + Liquid fan
BackHo
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
New Zealand400 Posts
June 06 2011 05:50 GMT
#528
On June 06 2011 13:46 sgtcodfish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 13:43 BackHo wrote:
Meh, truth be told I understand players not respecting NASL - it's been a badly run tournament right from the beginning.


Ignoring the fact that disrespecting the tournament by no-showing probably isn't the best way of voicing your opinions about how said tournament is run...

it's not just NASL they're disrespecting, they're disrespecting their opponents, and that's actually worse IMO.

If PainUser has beef with NASL, I'm not going to hold it against him (although I have no reason to believe he does), but I do have a problem with fucking other players about.

EDIT: The above said, I do disagree with you, and agree with Cloud above. The guy knows his shit.


What about the fact that we were predicting today's game was going to be a walkover, I mean, us fans don't even get excited over the fact that Boxer MAY play anymore, because we're so used to InControl not following through with his promises:

On June 02 2011 21:09 iNcontroL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2011 17:03 doffe wrote:
On June 02 2011 15:31 iNcontroL wrote:
On June 02 2011 15:08 bwin wrote:
I mean, if your entire business is structured around the internet, it is your responsibility to make sure the internet is stable. I understand shit happens but to say that nothing could have been done to prevent this just sounds like you're trying to pass off blame.


You are right. We literally could have an internet crew out every single day checking the infrastructure over and over again. But what if it happened anyways? Was it our fault for not hiring a better crew? But what if it happened to the best crew money could buy? Were we supposed to have it hard wired to the actual TV/Monitor of each viewer?

At some point we say "sorry" and "we want to make sure it doesn't happen again" but that also doesn't mean you get to claim that we shoulda hired God to make sure there was no way it could happen.


Really Inc? THIS is what you respond to? Alot of people has asked valid questions and the one you actually adress is this. Is it just so you can use your extreme wit and skill with sarcasm or what, it just seems silly. Its not like anyone actually think its NASLs fault if the ISP goes down, or atleast noone with a brain.

What about the question to why you do not announce W/O precast instead of pregame, would be appreciated. Or does an answer to this grant to few opportunities to sarcasm?

W/o should have been announced. We discussed it and it was supposed yo happen no idea why it didnt


What a load of bullshit, he said they'd be announcing them at the beginning yet they just hope we forget about it. I for one regret spending 'a small price' (which isn't small at all compared to say GSL) on this tournament and will definitely not be buying next season, if there is another season. The fact that MGL took so many viewers just goes to show that when there is competition in the market the shittier product will suffer the consequences.
EMPaThy789
Profile Joined July 2009
New Zealand878 Posts
June 06 2011 05:50 GMT
#529
cloud is not now only a cookie monster, he is now also TLO!
Akio00
Profile Joined January 2011
United States98 Posts
June 06 2011 05:53 GMT
#530
Painuser clearly doesn't care about his playing career, so he basically torched any chance of getting invited into any future league. Let him try to become one of the better casters. Honestly, we do need them if we expect this sport to grow. A lot of people have made mistakes and come back stronger afterwards.

Anybody that plans on boycotting IPL2 because of this needs to realize that we need to support IGN's tournament, regardless of the casters. If you want E-sports to grow and suceed, you need to keep moving forward.
Z3kk
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4099 Posts
June 06 2011 05:53 GMT
#531
On June 06 2011 14:50 mR.bONG789 wrote:
cloud is not now only a cookie monster, he is now also TLO!


Noticed this as well! Funny stuff
Failure is not falling down over and over again. Failure is refusing to get back up.
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-06 05:58:18
June 06 2011 05:53 GMT
#532
On June 06 2011 14:38 Defacer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 14:27 bennyaus wrote:
Burger analogy is bad, let it rest please -_-


Are you shitting me? From now on, we're comparing everything related to Starcraft to running a burger shop!

In that case, I have a feeling I know what's gonna happen to poor PainUser . . .

[image loading]

Boxer's gonna get that PainBurger one way or another!
bennyaus
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia1833 Posts
June 06 2011 05:56 GMT
#533
On June 06 2011 14:53 Akio00 wrote:
Painuser clearly doesn't care about his playing career, so he basically torched any chance of getting invited into any future league. Let him try to become one of the better casters. Honestly, we do need them if we expect this sport to grow. A lot of people have made mistakes and come back stronger afterwards.

Anybody that plans on boycotting IPL2 because of this needs to realize that we need to support IGN's tournament, regardless of the casters. If you want E-sports to grow and suceed, you need to keep moving forward.


Good attitude. We need more quality analyst/ex-player casters. Too many random play-by-play casters who just jump on the SC2 bandwagon without really understanding the game.
I play Random - HuK, DRG + Liquid fan
TooN
Profile Joined February 2011
1046 Posts
June 06 2011 05:57 GMT
#534
This whole NASL thing is not shaping well. So many walkovers.
garlicface
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada4196 Posts
June 06 2011 05:58 GMT
#535
Love hearing it from the players' mouths.
On June 06 2011 13:12 MYM.ClouD wrote:
So many great players were disappointed for not being invited, this is a real let down :\ There's no shame in losing any match in group 5 anyway

So what if you go 0-9? Have the dignity to at least represent yourself on a consistent basis. Hell, people don't talk about qxc's 0-whatever at IEM anymore. Damn, poor Boxer.
#TeamBuLba
cascades
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore6122 Posts
June 06 2011 06:01 GMT
#536
Oh wow Sen losing just threw the group wide open. For shame Sen. =/
HS: cascades#1595 || LoL: stoppin
Paradice
Profile Joined October 2010
New Zealand431 Posts
June 06 2011 06:08 GMT
#537
On June 06 2011 14:57 TooN wrote:
This whole NASL thing is not shaping well. So many walkovers.


I disagree. The walkovers that we're having aren't affecting the top 10 spots. Anyone with a chance at going through is all over it.

In fact the finals part of NASL is going to be ridiculously stacked. Just look at these players (people with <= 2 losses taken from the standings page, so as at the start of this week, may have changed a little this week but it demonstrates my point)

SeleCT
Sen
July
Ret
Squirtle
Boxer
Morrow
Strelok
KiWiKaKi
Fenix
Moon
Zenio
ACE
IdrA
NaDa
Sheth
SjoW
White-Ra

Who is the weakest link? Moon? Who else? This is going to be an epic finale. I think when it's played out, the early missteps and the walkovers will be long forgotten.
Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
June 06 2011 06:16 GMT
#538
On June 06 2011 14:53 Slow Motion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 14:38 Defacer wrote:
On June 06 2011 14:27 bennyaus wrote:
Burger analogy is bad, let it rest please -_-


Are you shitting me? From now on, we're comparing everything related to Starcraft to running a burger shop!

In that case, I have a feeling I know what's gonna happen to poor PainUser . . .

[image loading]

Boxer's gonna get that PainBurger one way or another!


LOL! Thanks for that. Poor PainBurger.
MrDudeMan
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada973 Posts
June 06 2011 06:17 GMT
#539
walkouts can have some effect on the tournament result. We'll probably see this in effect next week, where zenio will get the 2-0 win over PB and that means that Sen has to lose in order for idra to advance.
Deapht
Profile Joined October 2010
101 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-13 12:59:57
June 06 2011 06:17 GMT
#540
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