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89andy
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada192 Posts
June 07 2011 23:10 GMT
#221
Good, this $10 entry fee will weed out the people just joining for fun.

Basically it's going to prevent crappy people from hitting a bit lucky in the brackets and not having to fight any known names *cough destiny IPL 2 cough*.
MechKing
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3004 Posts
June 07 2011 23:15 GMT
#222
I can understand why they are having a fee, but aren't they trying to do a 1024 man tourney? I don't think they'll get that with the 10$ fee since a lot of people who don't really have a chance won't want to pay it.
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
June 07 2011 23:20 GMT
#223
It's a max 1,024 player event... if we don't get that many... then we play with what we have! =D
twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
RuMCaKe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States559 Posts
June 07 2011 23:22 GMT
#224
Yay for having qualifiers this time around. Looking forward to the next season as well as the finals!
twitter.com/RuMCaKeS
WniO
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2706 Posts
June 07 2011 23:26 GMT
#225
so what happens when i qualify but am not on a team? will i have to find a team in order to participate in next season?
MechKing
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3004 Posts
June 07 2011 23:29 GMT
#226
On June 08 2011 08:20 Xeris wrote:
It's a max 1,024 player event... if we don't get that many... then we play with what we have! =D

Oh ok, thanks! Hopefully they get a ton of awesome players.
yoshi_yoshi
Profile Joined January 2010
United States440 Posts
June 07 2011 23:32 GMT
#227
From a spectator's point of view, I'd even support the NASL going further.

Charge $50. Make it a bo5 double-elimination. Expect roughly 50 well qualified people to participate.

As-is, a single elimination bo3 is not going to get the best players. I've never seen a large online tourney with this structure that didn't have several scrubs in the top 8. By scrubs I don't mean talented unknown players, I mean players who get on a hot streak or lucky brackets.

You guys are going to feature 8 of these players for 3 months. The best way of getting great qualifiers is the way TSL did it, with 8 TL opens, but I understand if that is too much work. Still, if you are letting 1 tournament decide 8 spots, the tournament should have a robust tournament format (at least double-elim).
TooN
Profile Joined February 2011
1046 Posts
June 07 2011 23:35 GMT
#228
On June 08 2011 08:10 iNcontroL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2011 06:06 TooN wrote:
I remember Incontrol talking about how MLG online qualifier tourney was a nickel and dime buisness for the 7 dollar fee. Think it was on STOG. So just kind of funny NASL the same kind of thing.


uhhhhhhhh

That was for points for a tourney you still can sign up for (MLG)

This is for an offline final only qualified players can go to



Ah I see, it makes sense. I misunderstood the MLG online tourney, thought the prize included the tourney pass.
Arkansassy
Profile Joined October 2010
358 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-07 23:49:42
June 07 2011 23:37 GMT
#229
Admittedly, I don't know a whole lot about these tournaments - Hell, up until MLG - Columbus, I still thought the guys in the pool were swimming.

Ten bucks doesn't sound like an exorbitant amount; however, I'm reading other posts, that take exception to it, prior to avilo's post, and since, but their posts weren't singled out. Funny. Frankly, I think he had a legitimate question, which, since others asked, was answered, I guess.

And Maestro, the players don't pay a fee to play in the NBA, NFL, MLS, do they? I guess your reasoning was lost on me.

Obviously, you can't run a business without showing a profit. Someone has to pay the salaries and "upkeep." But I'm reading that this isn't the norm. So, am I correct in my assumption that this is the first time an "open" tournament is charging an entrance fee, or am I wrong?
TDN
Profile Joined May 2011
United States133 Posts
June 07 2011 23:44 GMT
#230
On June 07 2011 11:21 sleigh bells wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2011 11:11 iNcontroL wrote:
I think people should have better things to do than worry about a 10$ entry fee for a tourney. If it's too much move along. No amount of complaining or theorizing that it's some kind of get rich scam will have it removed.

if you want to make some money, i think that's fine. but saying money is necessary to guarantee less no-shows is retarded. a $25 refundable deposit would work even better.


Obviously, they want to make $10k out of this online qualification.
Production value is just the same as any youtube caster, with a PC and a microphone.
425kid
Profile Joined March 2011
416 Posts
June 07 2011 23:49 GMT
#231
On June 08 2011 08:37 Arkansassy wrote:
Admittedly, I don't know a whole lot about these tournaments - Hell, up until MLG - Columbus, I still thought the guys in the pool were swimming.

Ten bucks doesn't sound like an exorbitant amount; however, I'm reading other posts, that take exception to it, prior to avilo's post, and since, but their posts weren't singled out. Funny. Frankly, I think he had a legitimate question, which, since others asked, was answered, I guess.

And Maestro, the players don't pay a fee to play in the NBA, NFL, MLS, do they? I guess your reasoning was lost on me.

Obviously, you can't run a business without showing a profit. Someone has to pay the salaries and "upkeep." But I'm reading that this isn't the norm. So, am I correct in my assumption that all "open" tournaments charge an entrance fee, or am I wrong?


No. You need special permission from blizzard to charge for online tournaments. Its completely non standard
Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
June 07 2011 23:49 GMT
#232
Dreamhack is same time, sorry lol!
Flying, sOs, free, Light, Soulkey & ZerO
HaRxTears
Profile Joined January 2011
141 Posts
June 07 2011 23:53 GMT
#233
Goodjob overlapping with dreamhack you just lost all credibility of a proper qualifier with the best players. LoL
Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
June 08 2011 01:39 GMT
#234
On June 08 2011 05:07 avilo wrote:
lol @ $10 entry fee. Very few if any other online tournaments have had entry fees, with similar sometimes larger, sometimes smaller prize pools than this. I'd hate to see other tournaments start charging for entry into their "open tournaments."

At people saying they don't want to make money...uh...they do want the money out of your pocket, that's why they have the gaul to make it $10 entry.

Anyways...I think it's a pretty bad idea, especially with how people will be seeded or not seeded. They will handpick seeds, just like they handpicked the original first 50 nasl people...

How will seeding work exactly?


Avilo, I promise to sponsor 20% of your entry fee, or two whole dollars. All you have to do now is find four other strangers to give you two dollars and you're set.

As a primary sponsor, I expect some form of brand recognition. Preferably my name drawn with a black sharpie on a t-shirt you found in a dumpster behind the 7-11.

ThisIsJimmy
Profile Joined July 2004
United States546 Posts
June 08 2011 02:26 GMT
#235
I screwed up my name... Binary Beast is weird and won't let me change it. My Name is in there as SilentAssassin then 738.

Should be ThisIsJimmy.738
Twitter @_ThisIsJimmy_
Bobgrimly
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand250 Posts
June 08 2011 03:28 GMT
#236
This thread needs a sponge. There are a lot of crybabies in this thread.

This tournament is so you can get a chance to compete with the guys who have been playing for the last 8-9 weeks! (and they might not even get in.... )

If you don't feel like its fair... no one is making you pay or play. This is basically a tournament so anyone left out during the selection for the divisions can get in if they put in some effort (beat 1023 people) That I think makes up for not playing the last 8-9 weeks.

Then hopefully a good player will come from it and compete decently against those that make it through to the final 16. Thank god for the $10 dollar entrance fee. It seems to be working wonders to stop the scrubs dead in their tracks.
For the swarm
Arkansassy
Profile Joined October 2010
358 Posts
June 08 2011 03:35 GMT
#237
On June 08 2011 10:39 Defacer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2011 05:07 avilo wrote:
lol @ $10 entry fee. Very few if any other online tournaments have had entry fees, with similar sometimes larger, sometimes smaller prize pools than this. I'd hate to see other tournaments start charging for entry into their "open tournaments."

At people saying they don't want to make money...uh...they do want the money out of your pocket, that's why they have the gaul to make it $10 entry.

Anyways...I think it's a pretty bad idea, especially with how people will be seeded or not seeded. They will handpick seeds, just like they handpicked the original first 50 nasl people...

How will seeding work exactly?


Avilo, I promise to sponsor 20% of your entry fee, or two whole dollars. All you have to do now is find four other strangers to give you two dollars and you're set.

As a primary sponsor, I expect some form of brand recognition. Preferably my name drawn with a black sharpie on a t-shirt you found in a dumpster behind the 7-11.



Hell, kid, with my backing avilo could buy and sell you 1000 times over. Seeing as you know nothing about avilo, that was just rude.
BinaryBeast
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
22 Posts
June 08 2011 03:36 GMT
#238
On June 08 2011 11:26 ThisIsJimmy wrote:
I screwed up my name... Binary Beast is weird and won't let me change it. My Name is in there as SilentAssassin then 738.

Should be ThisIsJimmy.738



http://binarybeast.com/user/gamenetwork/update/1

It's under settings
http://binarybeast.com/
425kid
Profile Joined March 2011
416 Posts
June 08 2011 03:41 GMT
#239
On June 08 2011 10:39 Defacer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2011 05:07 avilo wrote:
lol @ $10 entry fee. Very few if any other online tournaments have had entry fees, with similar sometimes larger, sometimes smaller prize pools than this. I'd hate to see other tournaments start charging for entry into their "open tournaments."

At people saying they don't want to make money...uh...they do want the money out of your pocket, that's why they have the gaul to make it $10 entry.

Anyways...I think it's a pretty bad idea, especially with how people will be seeded or not seeded. They will handpick seeds, just like they handpicked the original first 50 nasl people...

How will seeding work exactly?


Avilo, I promise to sponsor 20% of your entry fee, or two whole dollars. All you have to do now is find four other strangers to give you two dollars and you're set.

As a primary sponsor, I expect some form of brand recognition. Preferably my name drawn with a black sharpie on a t-shirt you found in a dumpster behind the 7-11.



His issue isnt that he has to pay 10 dollars, its that nasl is arrogant enough to charge money for an online tournament, setting the standard that charging for tournaments is acceptable when in the past it hasnt been. If you offer to pay 20% of everyone that wants to play then you can start talking
Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
June 08 2011 04:15 GMT
#240
On June 08 2011 12:35 Arkansassy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2011 10:39 Defacer wrote:
On June 08 2011 05:07 avilo wrote:
lol @ $10 entry fee. Very few if any other online tournaments have had entry fees, with similar sometimes larger, sometimes smaller prize pools than this. I'd hate to see other tournaments start charging for entry into their "open tournaments."

At people saying they don't want to make money...uh...they do want the money out of your pocket, that's why they have the gaul to make it $10 entry.

Anyways...I think it's a pretty bad idea, especially with how people will be seeded or not seeded. They will handpick seeds, just like they handpicked the original first 50 nasl people...

How will seeding work exactly?


Avilo, I promise to sponsor 20% of your entry fee, or two whole dollars. All you have to do now is find four other strangers to give you two dollars and you're set.

As a primary sponsor, I expect some form of brand recognition. Preferably my name drawn with a black sharpie on a t-shirt you found in a dumpster behind the 7-11.



Hell, kid, with my backing avilo could buy and sell you 1000 times over. Seeing as you know nothing about avilo, that was just rude.


Oh Me Oh My! Seem's like this Avilo character is one sexy-crazy-hot commodity, and will have nothing to worry or complain about at all!

His stock is on the rise!




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