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On June 27 2011 07:25 Primadog wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2011 07:06 Defacer wrote:On June 27 2011 05:27 mikyaJ wrote:On June 27 2011 05:05 sjschmidt93 wrote:
Lol Ret congratz for getting the #1 seed... now face this guy
/sigh Well where else would it be reasonable to put the Open Winner? They should do a ceremony a la GSL, where the top 7 players get to pick an opponent from the bottom 8 players, starting from the number one seed. That would be entertaining as hell to watch on stream, its a 'more fair' system, and it gives players an additional incentive during the season to fight for higher seeds (at no cost to the NASL). Xeris, whaddaya think? The only reason why the seeding ceremonies were interesting is because it was live, and you can see the facial reactions between the pickee and picker immediately. You can't get the same experience in the NASL format. The only result would be the bottom seeds that fought though the open or playoffs are guaranteed their worst matchups, making their efforts not worthwhile.
You just broadcast it as part of the live 3-day Final in California. You realize all 16 players meet and play in California, right?
And of course the bottom seeds should get the worst match-ups. The players that perform the best in the league should have the bet opportunity to advance 
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On June 27 2011 08:12 Defacer wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2011 07:25 Primadog wrote:On June 27 2011 07:06 Defacer wrote:On June 27 2011 05:27 mikyaJ wrote:On June 27 2011 05:05 sjschmidt93 wrote:
Lol Ret congratz for getting the #1 seed... now face this guy
/sigh Well where else would it be reasonable to put the Open Winner? They should do a ceremony a la GSL, where the top 7 players get to pick an opponent from the bottom 8 players, starting from the number one seed. That would be entertaining as hell to watch on stream, its a 'more fair' system, and it gives players an additional incentive during the season to fight for higher seeds (at no cost to the NASL). Xeris, whaddaya think? The only reason why the seeding ceremonies were interesting is because it was live, and you can see the facial reactions between the pickee and picker immediately. You can't get the same experience in the NASL format. The only result would be the bottom seeds that fought though the open or playoffs are guaranteed their worst matchups, making their efforts not worthwhile. You just broadcast it as part of the live 3-day Final in California. You realize all 16 players meet and play in California, right? And of course the bottom seeds should get the worst match-ups. The players that perform the best in the league should have the bet opportunity to advance
Soo...players are given less than a day to prepare for their next MU? The current system is flawed but what you are proposing is worse.
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On June 27 2011 07:25 Primadog wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2011 07:06 Defacer wrote:On June 27 2011 05:27 mikyaJ wrote:On June 27 2011 05:05 sjschmidt93 wrote:
Lol Ret congratz for getting the #1 seed... now face this guy
/sigh Well where else would it be reasonable to put the Open Winner? They should do a ceremony a la GSL, where the top 7 players get to pick an opponent from the bottom 8 players, starting from the number one seed. That would be entertaining as hell to watch on stream, its a 'more fair' system, and it gives players an additional incentive during the season to fight for higher seeds (at no cost to the NASL). Xeris, whaddaya think? The only reason why the seeding ceremonies were interesting is because it was live, and you can see the facial reactions between the pickee and picker immediately. You can't get the same experience in the NASL format. The only result would be the bottom seeds that fought though the open or playoffs are guaranteed their worst matchups, making their efforts not worthwhile.
The guys who finished at the bottom should get their worst match ups.... it's only "fair" that the person who EARNED #1 gets to pick who he plays, then #2, etc. Plus that prevents ugly "is he throwing this match?" situations.
IMO
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On June 27 2011 09:22 Neo.NEt wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2011 07:25 Primadog wrote:On June 27 2011 07:06 Defacer wrote:On June 27 2011 05:27 mikyaJ wrote:On June 27 2011 05:05 sjschmidt93 wrote:
Lol Ret congratz for getting the #1 seed... now face this guy
/sigh Well where else would it be reasonable to put the Open Winner? They should do a ceremony a la GSL, where the top 7 players get to pick an opponent from the bottom 8 players, starting from the number one seed. That would be entertaining as hell to watch on stream, its a 'more fair' system, and it gives players an additional incentive during the season to fight for higher seeds (at no cost to the NASL). Xeris, whaddaya think? The only reason why the seeding ceremonies were interesting is because it was live, and you can see the facial reactions between the pickee and picker immediately. You can't get the same experience in the NASL format. The only result would be the bottom seeds that fought though the open or playoffs are guaranteed their worst matchups, making their efforts not worthwhile. The guys who finished at the bottom should get their worst match ups.... it's only "fair" that the person who EARNED #1 gets to pick who he plays, then #2, etc. Plus that prevents ugly "is he throwing this match?" situations. IMO
The "is he throwing this match" situation is constructed from a bunch of fools whom do not understand the tournament format. It is evident now, given how the tournament play out, that being 1st seed is better than better 2nd seed. It'll be even more so in the future NASL seasons, as more of the bottom of the barrel gets filtered out.
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On June 27 2011 08:20 godemperor wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2011 08:12 Defacer wrote:On June 27 2011 07:25 Primadog wrote:On June 27 2011 07:06 Defacer wrote:On June 27 2011 05:27 mikyaJ wrote:On June 27 2011 05:05 sjschmidt93 wrote:
Lol Ret congratz for getting the #1 seed... now face this guy
/sigh Well where else would it be reasonable to put the Open Winner? They should do a ceremony a la GSL, where the top 7 players get to pick an opponent from the bottom 8 players, starting from the number one seed. That would be entertaining as hell to watch on stream, its a 'more fair' system, and it gives players an additional incentive during the season to fight for higher seeds (at no cost to the NASL). Xeris, whaddaya think? The only reason why the seeding ceremonies were interesting is because it was live, and you can see the facial reactions between the pickee and picker immediately. You can't get the same experience in the NASL format. The only result would be the bottom seeds that fought though the open or playoffs are guaranteed their worst matchups, making their efforts not worthwhile. You just broadcast it as part of the live 3-day Final in California. You realize all 16 players meet and play in California, right? And of course the bottom seeds should get the worst match-ups. The players that perform the best in the league should have the bet opportunity to advance Soo...players are given less than a day to prepare for their next MU? The current system is flawed but what you are proposing is worse.
Yeah, that players are not given ample time to prepare for the matches in the championship bracket is probably the worst flaw of this tournament. Rapid-play tournaments like MLG and long form leagues should be as separated as possible. Why have every match up until now have a week of prep time and suddenly you get none at all for the finals?
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On June 27 2011 05:01 Xeris wrote:Replays coming tonight or tomorrow for the Ro8 , Semi final, and Final. Congrats to PuMa for taking it and being the 16th seed at the NASL Grand Finals  !
nice ! ♥
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On June 27 2011 09:28 Primadog wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2011 09:22 Neo.NEt wrote:On June 27 2011 07:25 Primadog wrote:On June 27 2011 07:06 Defacer wrote:On June 27 2011 05:27 mikyaJ wrote:On June 27 2011 05:05 sjschmidt93 wrote:
Lol Ret congratz for getting the #1 seed... now face this guy
/sigh Well where else would it be reasonable to put the Open Winner? They should do a ceremony a la GSL, where the top 7 players get to pick an opponent from the bottom 8 players, starting from the number one seed. That would be entertaining as hell to watch on stream, its a 'more fair' system, and it gives players an additional incentive during the season to fight for higher seeds (at no cost to the NASL). Xeris, whaddaya think? The only reason why the seeding ceremonies were interesting is because it was live, and you can see the facial reactions between the pickee and picker immediately. You can't get the same experience in the NASL format. The only result would be the bottom seeds that fought though the open or playoffs are guaranteed their worst matchups, making their efforts not worthwhile. The guys who finished at the bottom should get their worst match ups.... it's only "fair" that the person who EARNED #1 gets to pick who he plays, then #2, etc. Plus that prevents ugly "is he throwing this match?" situations. IMO The "is he throwing this match" situation is constructed from a bunch of fools whom do not understand the tournament format. It is evident now, given how the tournament play out, that being 1st seed is better than better 2nd seed. It'll be even more so in the future NASL seasons, as more of the bottom of the barrel gets filtered out.
What now?
Several people, with a guaranteed spot in the finals already, have thrown away matches in the last round of the season. Select vs MC and July vs Moman comes to mind.
I don't see how you can claim that 1st seed is superior to the 2nd seed when there's players actively dodging the first seed, or claim that there were no thrown matches when we've had battlecruisers vs carrier in a 'competitive' match.
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if NASL restricted the Open Tournament to amateurs only it would solve the issue. It would make a much easier game for the 1st seed, players would not try to avoid the 1st seed (it would even make the 1st seed desirable), and it would give amateurs a real shot at making the final playoff bracket.
In my opinion the path to the NASL finals for the pro gamers should come through the NASL regular season, not the open bracket.
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The open tourney should be held before the season even begins, with the top 8 gaining spots in each of the divisions. If you want to have an amateur tournament that's fine, but the winner(s) should just get a trip to finals and a chance to hang/play with the pros.
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Day 4-6: [url blocked]
Here's the Ro8, RO4, and Final replay pack! =D
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Wow, congrats to + Show Spoiler +Puma. I saw his games in the GSTL and he certainly looked pretty good. Hope to see him do well!
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On June 29 2011 06:08 Xeris wrote:
Day 4-6: [url blocked]
Here's the Ro8, RO4, and Final replay pack! =D
Awesome, thanks
edit: woa  PuMa looks pretty scary from the games ive watched so far
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Sick tournament. Also nice to see that Rain, Thorzain and NightEnd have qualified for Season 3.
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On June 27 2011 04:34 ODieN wrote:
Geez.. 4 koreans top 4? So much for the "North American" Star League. haha.
Good luck! Hope to see some GG's.
I don't see what so funny about that. Do you snicker everytime you hear "NHL?"
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On June 30 2011 19:36 nihlon wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2011 04:34 ODieN wrote:
Geez.. 4 koreans top 4? So much for the "North American" Star League. haha.
Good luck! Hope to see some GG's. I don't see what so funny about that. Do you snicker everytime you hear "NHL?"
edit wrong thread.
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