On April 11 2011 13:58 Hikko wrote:
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I think I might not be winning the Liquibet this season....
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I think I might not be winning the Liquibet this season....
I feel your pain, exact same predictions and results.
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Tosho
Australia498 Posts
April 11 2011 06:57 GMT
#3301
On April 11 2011 13:58 Hikko wrote: ![]() I think I might not be winning the Liquibet this season.... I feel your pain, exact same predictions and results. | ||
HowSoOnIsNow
Canada480 Posts
April 11 2011 06:58 GMT
#3302
On April 11 2011 15:27 AxionSteel wrote: Show nested quote + On April 11 2011 12:40 HowSoOnIsNow wrote: On April 11 2011 08:31 Bobster wrote: On April 11 2011 08:22 HowSoOnIsNow wrote: The Wc doesnt mean much to me anymore, anyways. TSL3 was very telling, and it's all i need to know about the states of the koreans. There is no doubt in my mind that Kas is a better player than Nada, sadly. bla bla bs bs etc etcThe Tsl doesnt mean much to me anymore, anyways. The WC was very telling, and it's all i need to know about the states of the foreigners. There is no doubt in my mind that Nada is a better player than Kas, sadly, Nada doesn't take the game very seriously yet. I guess it's Mc's tournament to win now. Seriously, guy? Like, seriously? This deification of Korean players needs. to. stop. It's a level playing field. Koreans win in some tournaments, foreigners in others. Each take single games and entire series off each other. Wake up and smell the roses, this ain't the BW scene anymore. hahahaha that was hilarious, i saw that kind of response somewhere else, dont remember though. Well no, i wasnt impressed by Kas, and Nada is just a better player all around. He did get beat, and i didnt use the lag argument. Nada got beat, but he's still a better player than Kas. It's like when idra got beat by Cruncher, i dont think anyone would say that Idra is the inferior player. Again, not saying Kas doesnt deserve the win or anything. He does. But i also know what Nada can do with proper training. The guy is the ultimate progammer. Kas got nothing on him. Pure fan boyism? yes! Proud of it. clueless post, if you weren't impressed by kas, then NaDa is absolute trash. (which isn't the case). Completely dominant performance from Kas, I think those of us who watch him play a lot knew he would beat NaDa, he's a great terran. Yes im absolutely clueless my dude, you've seen the depth of my soul. NaDa played like trash. Kas did not impress me. Problem? | ||
LwReisen
Australia94 Posts
April 11 2011 07:02 GMT
#3303
On April 11 2011 15:58 HowSoOnIsNow wrote: Show nested quote + On April 11 2011 15:27 AxionSteel wrote: On April 11 2011 12:40 HowSoOnIsNow wrote: On April 11 2011 08:31 Bobster wrote: On April 11 2011 08:22 HowSoOnIsNow wrote: The Wc doesnt mean much to me anymore, anyways. TSL3 was very telling, and it's all i need to know about the states of the koreans. There is no doubt in my mind that Kas is a better player than Nada, sadly. bla bla bs bs etc etcThe Tsl doesnt mean much to me anymore, anyways. The WC was very telling, and it's all i need to know about the states of the foreigners. There is no doubt in my mind that Nada is a better player than Kas, sadly, Nada doesn't take the game very seriously yet. I guess it's Mc's tournament to win now. Seriously, guy? Like, seriously? This deification of Korean players needs. to. stop. It's a level playing field. Koreans win in some tournaments, foreigners in others. Each take single games and entire series off each other. Wake up and smell the roses, this ain't the BW scene anymore. hahahaha that was hilarious, i saw that kind of response somewhere else, dont remember though. Well no, i wasnt impressed by Kas, and Nada is just a better player all around. He did get beat, and i didnt use the lag argument. Nada got beat, but he's still a better player than Kas. It's like when idra got beat by Cruncher, i dont think anyone would say that Idra is the inferior player. Again, not saying Kas doesnt deserve the win or anything. He does. But i also know what Nada can do with proper training. The guy is the ultimate progammer. Kas got nothing on him. Pure fan boyism? yes! Proud of it. clueless post, if you weren't impressed by kas, then NaDa is absolute trash. (which isn't the case). Completely dominant performance from Kas, I think those of us who watch him play a lot knew he would beat NaDa, he's a great terran. Yes im absolutely clueless my dude, you've seen the depth of my soul. NaDa played like trash. Kas did not impress me. Problem? You're just in denial that your BW god NaDa got smoked by an "unknown". | ||
Ezekyle
Australia607 Posts
April 11 2011 07:03 GMT
#3304
On April 11 2011 13:53 Daz89 wrote: Must say, I haven't seen a huge amount of Kas' games before, but he played incredibly well. People are trying to downplay it saying Nada played badly (which I'll admit, he didn't play his best), but I'd say that was more a factor of the pressure Kas was putting on. Give credit where credit is due. No, that was just Nada playing really badly. This is someone who can macro pretty much perfectly in BW, which is much harder than SC2, while microing his vultures to kill every drone on the map, and we saw him getting repeatedly supply blocked and not building SCVs, even at times when there was no pressure at all. I really don't think his macro failures were because of Kas being a genius aggressor. Kas outplayed Nada, yes, but that's because Nada played terribly. I'm not saying Kas isn't a good player, mind you, and I'd love to see him play against someone who isn't completely off his game, but you can't just look at him winning in these games and say he played incredibly well - anyone can look unstoppable when their opponent is bad. | ||
BryanSC
United States455 Posts
April 11 2011 07:20 GMT
#3305
On April 11 2011 16:03 Ezekyle wrote: Show nested quote + On April 11 2011 13:53 Daz89 wrote: Must say, I haven't seen a huge amount of Kas' games before, but he played incredibly well. People are trying to downplay it saying Nada played badly (which I'll admit, he didn't play his best), but I'd say that was more a factor of the pressure Kas was putting on. Give credit where credit is due. No, that was just Nada playing really badly. This is someone who can macro pretty much perfectly in BW, which is much harder than SC2, while microing his vultures to kill every drone on the map, and we saw him getting repeatedly supply blocked and not building SCVs, even at times when there was no pressure at all. I really don't think his macro failures were because of Kas being a genius aggressor. Kas outplayed Nada, yes, but that's because Nada played terribly. I'm not saying Kas isn't a good player, mind you, and I'd love to see him play against someone who isn't completely off his game, but you can't just look at him winning in these games and say he played incredibly well - anyone can look unstoppable when their opponent is bad. Agreed. The fact is that in this series (Kas vs. Nada), Kas got completely outclassed by Nada because Nada was playing like lower class so that means that Nada was stronger in lower classness than Kas, so Kas, in class level, is higher than Nada, although I'm not ready to put Kas as one of the elite players of the world who have a membership in high class. Sup. | ||
OopsOopsBaby
Singapore3425 Posts
April 11 2011 07:31 GMT
#3306
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tyCe
Australia2542 Posts
April 11 2011 07:31 GMT
#3307
On April 11 2011 16:20 BryanSC wrote: Show nested quote + On April 11 2011 16:03 Ezekyle wrote: On April 11 2011 13:53 Daz89 wrote: Must say, I haven't seen a huge amount of Kas' games before, but he played incredibly well. People are trying to downplay it saying Nada played badly (which I'll admit, he didn't play his best), but I'd say that was more a factor of the pressure Kas was putting on. Give credit where credit is due. No, that was just Nada playing really badly. This is someone who can macro pretty much perfectly in BW, which is much harder than SC2, while microing his vultures to kill every drone on the map, and we saw him getting repeatedly supply blocked and not building SCVs, even at times when there was no pressure at all. I really don't think his macro failures were because of Kas being a genius aggressor. Kas outplayed Nada, yes, but that's because Nada played terribly. I'm not saying Kas isn't a good player, mind you, and I'd love to see him play against someone who isn't completely off his game, but you can't just look at him winning in these games and say he played incredibly well - anyone can look unstoppable when their opponent is bad. Agreed. The fact is that in this series (Kas vs. Nada), Kas got completely outclassed by Nada because Nada was playing like lower class so that means that Nada was stronger in lower classness than Kas, so Kas, in class level, is higher than Nada, although I'm not ready to put Kas as one of the elite players of the world who have a membership in high class. Sup. This is probably the worst post in the thread -_- Kas played very well. He made a couple bad tactical decisions but his gameplay was, on the whole, very very good. Best European Terran - even better than Jinro, imo. | ||
Deckkie
Netherlands1595 Posts
April 11 2011 07:38 GMT
#3308
On April 11 2011 16:20 BryanSC wrote: Show nested quote + On April 11 2011 16:03 Ezekyle wrote: On April 11 2011 13:53 Daz89 wrote: Must say, I haven't seen a huge amount of Kas' games before, but he played incredibly well. People are trying to downplay it saying Nada played badly (which I'll admit, he didn't play his best), but I'd say that was more a factor of the pressure Kas was putting on. Give credit where credit is due. No, that was just Nada playing really badly. This is someone who can macro pretty much perfectly in BW, which is much harder than SC2, while microing his vultures to kill every drone on the map, and we saw him getting repeatedly supply blocked and not building SCVs, even at times when there was no pressure at all. I really don't think his macro failures were because of Kas being a genius aggressor. Kas outplayed Nada, yes, but that's because Nada played terribly. I'm not saying Kas isn't a good player, mind you, and I'd love to see him play against someone who isn't completely off his game, but you can't just look at him winning in these games and say he played incredibly well - anyone can look unstoppable when their opponent is bad. Agreed. The fact is that in this series (Kas vs. Nada), Kas got completely outclassed by Nada because Nada was playing like lower class so that means that Nada was stronger in lower classness than Kas, so Kas, in class level, is higher than Nada, although I'm not ready to put Kas as one of the elite players of the world who have a membership in high class. Sup. I would love to see ur list of the "high class" Why dont u make one and show everybody ![]() | ||
hmmm...
632 Posts
April 11 2011 07:45 GMT
#3309
On April 11 2011 16:20 BryanSC wrote: Show nested quote + On April 11 2011 16:03 Ezekyle wrote: On April 11 2011 13:53 Daz89 wrote: Must say, I haven't seen a huge amount of Kas' games before, but he played incredibly well. People are trying to downplay it saying Nada played badly (which I'll admit, he didn't play his best), but I'd say that was more a factor of the pressure Kas was putting on. Give credit where credit is due. No, that was just Nada playing really badly. This is someone who can macro pretty much perfectly in BW, which is much harder than SC2, while microing his vultures to kill every drone on the map, and we saw him getting repeatedly supply blocked and not building SCVs, even at times when there was no pressure at all. I really don't think his macro failures were because of Kas being a genius aggressor. Kas outplayed Nada, yes, but that's because Nada played terribly. I'm not saying Kas isn't a good player, mind you, and I'd love to see him play against someone who isn't completely off his game, but you can't just look at him winning in these games and say he played incredibly well - anyone can look unstoppable when their opponent is bad. Agreed. The fact is that in this series (Kas vs. Nada), Kas got completely outclassed by Nada because Nada was playing like lower class so that means that Nada was stronger in lower classness than Kas, so Kas, in class level, is higher than Nada, although I'm not ready to put Kas as one of the elite players of the world who have a membership in high class. Sup. moderator where are you | ||
Adventurekid
Sweden505 Posts
April 11 2011 07:55 GMT
#3310
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Deckkie
Netherlands1595 Posts
April 11 2011 07:58 GMT
#3311
On April 11 2011 16:55 Adventurekid wrote: qxc vs Adelscott was so awesome ![]() Dude your soo right!! Were some awesome games :D You got only three post and ur already better then most people posting on TL (including me). Watch out and dont turn into us. | ||
Talin
Montenegro10532 Posts
April 11 2011 08:05 GMT
#3312
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Ocedic
United States1808 Posts
April 11 2011 08:05 GMT
#3313
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Velr
Switzerland10702 Posts
April 11 2011 08:32 GMT
#3314
Imho after the RO32 Kas should have raised tons of eyebrows... Yes, he just won 2-1, but when i think back at the series against Haypro: Game 1: I don't remember this one. Game 2: He made 1 pretty fatal error but before that it seemed pretty much like he had this game in the bag. I really thought he was at a point that he could just A + Go all over Haypro... Game 3: He won very convinsignly? It was no total walkover but Kas was never in any danger iirc? As for Go4Sc2.. Which is probably "the" regular tournament to watch. It starts on sunday afternoon in europe, so early morning in the US and ends when it ends... Sometimes it's finnished at 8 o'clock (yesterday).. Sometimes it runs WAY longer depending on the amount of players that signed up and the delays. The quality of the games also varies a LOT depending on the sign ups. Just check the featured streams on Sunday morning (when your from the US). The best thing about this tourney is actually to watch out for players that might get really big... Recently Happy had some nice showings, Cloud is doing better and seems really good at the moment, Beastyqt is a stable name for the later rounds... There is just a ton of talent in these Cups. I would recommend following them just to not be caught by surprise when someone "rather" unknown is doing good at Dreamhack or another "big" Event like Mana, Nama, DieStar, Bischu (which got famously coinflipped out) and tons others :p. It is the tournament where Goody has it's nickname(s) from... It's just a really fun event and the commentary is usually also good (Rotterdam/ESL.tv). | ||
PeAcY6969
France621 Posts
April 11 2011 08:45 GMT
#3315
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Azurues
Malaysia5612 Posts
April 11 2011 08:54 GMT
#3316
There must be a reason why Kas is top of the World ranking region, not just because he is lucky or something else. Kas execution, harassment and positioning was just perfect in every single map they played. What we saw from Nada today was probably his poor form. Nada has a top class TvT and clearly not showing it against Kas at all. Not sure what happen, but like somebody say he probably never train or play as hard after the last GSL ended. Nevertheless, EmpireKas deserved to win and up top matching Koreans or be in the same standard of GSL code S | ||
ftd.rain
United Kingdom539 Posts
April 11 2011 09:15 GMT
#3317
On April 11 2011 17:54 Azurues wrote: I have to say that Kas is really good player and so is Nada. There must be a reason why Kas is top of the World ranking region, not just because he is lucky or something else. Kas execution, harassment and positioning was just perfect in every single map they played. What we saw from Nada today was probably his poor form. Nada has a top class TvT and clearly not showing it against Kas at all. Not sure what happen, but like somebody say he probably never train or play as hard after the last GSL ended. Nevertheless, EmpireKas deserved to win and up top matching Koreans or be in the same standard of GSL code S Nada supply-blocked himself in every single game and reacted as slow as any silver league player out there would, but go on, keep naively making your assumptions while I smirk at the fact that the only match won by a top korean against a top foreigner happened when both played from the same country (MC 3-0) User was temp banned for this post. | ||
Alexl
288 Posts
April 11 2011 09:16 GMT
#3318
On April 11 2011 17:45 PeAcY6969 wrote: The match between Adelscott and Kas will be very high, Kas is one of the strongest players in Europe (unbeatable offline), Adelscott is very strong in PvT ... Wait & See ! ![]() Unbeatable offline? No offence but he didn't do so well at the only lan i saw him attend (IEM europe, he won his group but then choked iirc) while Adel has every french lan he attended bar two (that were won by lalush and ToD) with a top3 at assembly and top8 at dreamhack (losing 2-1 to ogsTOP) | ||
Technique
Netherlands1542 Posts
April 11 2011 09:18 GMT
#3319
On April 11 2011 05:42 Brad wrote: According to SoTG, Kas beating NaDa would be the biggest upset in TSL3. Looks like we just witnessed history. :D Ignorant americans ![]() | ||
qbs
Poland771 Posts
April 11 2011 09:30 GMT
#3320
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