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Logo2010
Profile Joined October 2010
509 Posts
April 11 2011 19:23 GMT
#3361
On April 12 2011 03:38 Skydancer wrote:
I know that MC is practising with a lag of 3 seconds at least... and still winning 3-0 ... so if he lose he don't have any excuses. :-D Nio can avoid lag... in matrix is only a matter of will! ;-)

White-ra was in Korea competing in the World Championships with the rest of the World Team and they stayed until Sunday the day after the WC ended. The matches were played on the Korean server.
zeniasvalharik
Profile Joined April 2011
United States19 Posts
April 11 2011 19:26 GMT
#3362
Kas had great game sense and intuition for what nada was going to do. I don't think it is fair to say that NaDa played poorly when his opponent was just one step ahead and correctly anticipating just about every single move, every single game. If kas stays in this kind of form I don't see him losing much.
MattRz
Profile Joined April 2011
Chile1680 Posts
April 11 2011 19:32 GMT
#3363
I'm pretty amazed by the level difference between MC and the rest of the koreans.
Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake ♞
cheesemaster
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1975 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-11 21:34:57
April 11 2011 21:33 GMT
#3364
On April 12 2011 04:26 zeniasvalharik wrote:
Kas had great game sense and intuition for what nada was going to do. I don't think it is fair to say that NaDa played poorly when his opponent was just one step ahead and correctly anticipating just about every single move, every single game. If kas stays in this kind of form I don't see him losing much.

Dunno regardless of how well kas played nada just played terrible pretty much nothing had happened yet in game 3 and he was 11 scv's behind even though they got their expansions up within seconds of each other. He was also making 4 supply depots at once fairly early on in the game and had units queued 4 deep watch some
Gom tv vods that Is pretty much the opposite of how he normally plays. Also his sieges were always late and sometimes his units just stood there and free siege tank shots landed on then watched the games about 3 times sook many mistakes that clearly something was up it's very weird to see someone who plays quite solidly especially in tvt's lose like that. If you compare his play in the most recent gsl to his play in the tsl you will see he is almost never prone to such silly mistakes such as forgetting to build 11 scv's and queuing up units in his barracks like crazy.
Slayers_MMA The terran who beats terrans
cheesemaster
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1975 Posts
April 11 2011 21:45 GMT
#3365
On April 12 2011 04:32 MattRz wrote:
I'm pretty amazed by the level difference between MC and the rest of the koreans.

he played his last opponent in 0 lag environment, and Ciara wasnt much of a challenge for mc regardless of his environment, we will see the true test with Thorzain (i beleive thats who hes playing next)

im more curious to see how koreans perform in the NASL as there will be more games to base the difference between latency off of. Although i heard its not too bad for members playing at the OGS house as they use a ISP that has decent latency.

As for nada i think he plays from home so could be a different story, or he could be on the Korean telecom internet that the OGS house uses.
Slayers_MMA The terran who beats terrans
YoungNeil
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada328 Posts
April 11 2011 21:54 GMT
#3366
On April 12 2011 04:32 MattRz wrote:
I'm pretty amazed by the level difference between MC and the rest of the koreans.

It's pretty hard to say based on the TSL3 games alone, I would say. One was against a severely inferior player, and the other was against a protoss. While MC isn't leagues beyond all (Korean) players, he has been the unquestioned master of PvP for a while.

MC is pretty clearly a step above the competition, but not to the point where he can't lose (see: GSL WC, Ro4). Unless he further develops his play over the next few seasons, I'm sure that other players will catch up. But will he do that? Yeah, probably.
BryanSC
Profile Joined October 2010
United States455 Posts
April 11 2011 23:10 GMT
#3367
On April 12 2011 06:54 YoungNeil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2011 04:32 MattRz wrote:
I'm pretty amazed by the level difference between MC and the rest of the koreans.

It's pretty hard to say based on the TSL3 games alone, I would say. One was against a severely inferior player, and the other was against a protoss. While MC isn't leagues beyond all (Korean) players, he has been the unquestioned master of PvP for a while.

MC is pretty clearly a step above the competition, but not to the point where he can't lose (see: GSL WC, Ro4). Unless he further develops his play over the next few seasons, I'm sure that other players will catch up. But will he do that? Yeah, probably.


Anytime MC's initial 1-2 base push fails, he's in major trouble. It's hard to recall a situation where he fell behind or had to play a long, drawn-out macro game and pulled off a victory.
Billyray
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada49 Posts
April 11 2011 23:34 GMT
#3368
On April 11 2011 23:59 danielsan wrote:
Nada played very bad. Under no circumstance can anyone state Kas played a good/solid game as long as the opponent was sub-par.

You can replace the names if you're fond on any of those players but the context remains unchanged.


So if we follow your logic, a football team that wins by 6 touchdowns cannot have played a great game if the opponent made many mistakes ?
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
April 11 2011 23:36 GMT
#3369
On April 12 2011 08:10 BryanSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2011 06:54 YoungNeil wrote:
On April 12 2011 04:32 MattRz wrote:
I'm pretty amazed by the level difference between MC and the rest of the koreans.

It's pretty hard to say based on the TSL3 games alone, I would say. One was against a severely inferior player, and the other was against a protoss. While MC isn't leagues beyond all (Korean) players, he has been the unquestioned master of PvP for a while.

MC is pretty clearly a step above the competition, but not to the point where he can't lose (see: GSL WC, Ro4). Unless he further develops his play over the next few seasons, I'm sure that other players will catch up. But will he do that? Yeah, probably.


Anytime MC's initial 1-2 base push fails, he's in major trouble. It's hard to recall a situation where he fell behind or had to play a long, drawn-out macro game and pulled off a victory.


Quite a few games in GSL Season 3 had MC looking very strong in long macro games. Also, his games against Byun were definitely macro games. MC's 1-base aggression style is simply something that he's been relying on too much lately, but just because he's been playing like that lately doesn't mean he can't do macro games.
LwReisen
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia94 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-12 01:20:09
April 12 2011 01:19 GMT
#3370
LOL at all the Kas hate.
NaDa got smoked. ACCEPT IT.

Sure, he didn't play the best but Kas was amazing. Even if NaDa played like he usually does, he wasn't winning that series. Kas was simply untouchable.
MORDEKAIZER ES #1
p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
April 12 2011 01:26 GMT
#3371
On April 12 2011 04:00 Bagi wrote:
Will we see interviews for the winners in the RO16 at all?

Yes.
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