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ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
April 11 2011 13:21 GMT
#3341
Would love to see Adelscott vs Z or P
And Kas vs Z or P

Kas TvT is pretty damn solid, hardly any problems. I mean did you see those sick sick sick missleturrets? Omg those were so solid.

Adel PvT is strong aswell, Im trying to adapt that style a little, its hard but its doable. You need some proper control tho. And constant constant production. Cant wait to see him play a protoss or zerg.

Very inpiring so far, both players.
KCCO!
windzor
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark1013 Posts
April 11 2011 13:47 GMT
#3342
On April 11 2011 22:21 ihasaKAROT wrote:
And Kas vs Z or P

Kas TvT is pretty damn solid, hardly any problems. I mean did you see those sick sick sick missleturrets? Omg those were so solid.


Kas already played one Zerg in this tournament so half of that wish is granted
Yeah
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
April 11 2011 13:52 GMT
#3343
On April 11 2011 22:47 windzor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2011 22:21 ihasaKAROT wrote:
And Kas vs Z or P

Kas TvT is pretty damn solid, hardly any problems. I mean did you see those sick sick sick missleturrets? Omg those were so solid.


Kas already played one Zerg in this tournament so half of that wish is granted

He's playing Adelscott next so he'll get to show off his TvP as well. He recently beat Hasuobs and Axslav in the GCPL Individual Tournament so you know he's scary good in that matchup as well.
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
Billyray
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada49 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-11 14:28:11
April 11 2011 14:27 GMT
#3344
Kas' play was bulletproof in all those sets. It wasn't just Nada crumbling, Kas was ahead at pretty much every point in every game. His turret placement in the first set was pure win. I really hope to see more of him in the near future.
danielsan
Profile Joined December 2010
Romania399 Posts
April 11 2011 14:59 GMT
#3345
Nada played very bad. Under no circumstance can anyone state Kas played a good/solid game as long as the opponent was sub-par.

You can replace the names if you're fond on any of those players but the context remains unchanged.
cheesemaster
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1975 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-11 15:57:50
April 11 2011 15:50 GMT
#3346
Yea regardless of the reasons nada played the three worst games I've ever seen him play. He didn't build scv's consistently in any of the games. He fell behind 30 40 supply without any major engagements (that is so rare a player has to be playing really really poorly for this to happen especially in a mirror matchup) in game 3 they both expand at the same time before any engagements nada is around 30 or so supply behind 11 of that is in workers. He had units queued 4 deep on alot of his production structures. That's alot of missed scv's. I don't see how anyone could say wow kas played so well when nada played so poorly. I would like to mention I've never seen nada play this poorly in a LAN setting before its just so uncharacteristic for someone with 3-400 apm to be queuing units in his barracks missing 11 workers building 4 supply depots at once fairly early in the game mis microing on quite a few occasions when he is known to have very
Consistent micro. I dunno something Is up here I think a low level masters player would have stood a better chance against kas judging from those games. I rewatched them a few times so painful to watch

Edit: if you don't agree with me go rewatch the games and see for yourself it was really disappointing watching nada play the three poorest games of his sc2'career and probably brood war career as well. More than once you see him walk into a siege tank line and siege up while his units stand there ><
Slayers_MMA The terran who beats terrans
Lysteria
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
France2279 Posts
April 11 2011 15:53 GMT
#3347
On April 11 2011 22:21 ihasaKAROT wrote:
Would love to see Adelscott vs Z or P


His PvZ is his weakness so far, it's good for him no zerg are left in his part of the bracket.
And for the vP one, he usually does some heavy macro/upgrade stuff, and he likes to create more paths to harass or backstab the enemy's army (because he doesn't make a lot of colossus in this match-up either ah hah).
j3i
Profile Joined February 2011
United States357 Posts
April 11 2011 16:13 GMT
#3348
On April 11 2011 16:45 hmmm... wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2011 16:20 BryanSC wrote:
On April 11 2011 16:03 Ezekyle wrote:
On April 11 2011 13:53 Daz89 wrote:
Must say, I haven't seen a huge amount of Kas' games before, but he played incredibly well. People are trying to downplay it saying Nada played badly (which I'll admit, he didn't play his best), but I'd say that was more a factor of the pressure Kas was putting on. Give credit where credit is due.


No, that was just Nada playing really badly. This is someone who can macro pretty much perfectly in BW, which is much harder than SC2, while microing his vultures to kill every drone on the map, and we saw him getting repeatedly supply blocked and not building SCVs, even at times when there was no pressure at all. I really don't think his macro failures were because of Kas being a genius aggressor. Kas outplayed Nada, yes, but that's because Nada played terribly. I'm not saying Kas isn't a good player, mind you, and I'd love to see him play against someone who isn't completely off his game, but you can't just look at him winning in these games and say he played incredibly well - anyone can look unstoppable when their opponent is bad.


Agreed. The fact is that in this series (Kas vs. Nada), Kas got completely outclassed by Nada because Nada was playing like lower class so that means that Nada was stronger in lower classness than Kas, so Kas, in class level, is higher than Nada, although I'm not ready to put Kas as one of the elite players of the world who have a membership in high class. Sup.


moderator where are you


Are any of those posts really worthy of a warning? Sure they are diminishing Kas' victory, but they aren't saying that he's bad. After all, it's not Kas' fault that Nada didn't perform at his best.
I am an idiot who knows only about gaming, so there is nothing private to talk about to begin with. - Bisu
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
April 11 2011 16:21 GMT
#3349
On April 12 2011 01:13 j3i wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2011 16:45 hmmm... wrote:
On April 11 2011 16:20 BryanSC wrote:
On April 11 2011 16:03 Ezekyle wrote:
On April 11 2011 13:53 Daz89 wrote:
Must say, I haven't seen a huge amount of Kas' games before, but he played incredibly well. People are trying to downplay it saying Nada played badly (which I'll admit, he didn't play his best), but I'd say that was more a factor of the pressure Kas was putting on. Give credit where credit is due.


No, that was just Nada playing really badly. This is someone who can macro pretty much perfectly in BW, which is much harder than SC2, while microing his vultures to kill every drone on the map, and we saw him getting repeatedly supply blocked and not building SCVs, even at times when there was no pressure at all. I really don't think his macro failures were because of Kas being a genius aggressor. Kas outplayed Nada, yes, but that's because Nada played terribly. I'm not saying Kas isn't a good player, mind you, and I'd love to see him play against someone who isn't completely off his game, but you can't just look at him winning in these games and say he played incredibly well - anyone can look unstoppable when their opponent is bad.


Agreed. The fact is that in this series (Kas vs. Nada), Kas got completely outclassed by Nada because Nada was playing like lower class so that means that Nada was stronger in lower classness than Kas, so Kas, in class level, is higher than Nada, although I'm not ready to put Kas as one of the elite players of the world who have a membership in high class. Sup.


moderator where are you


Are any of those posts really worthy of a warning? Sure they are diminishing Kas' victory, but they aren't saying that he's bad. After all, it's not Kas' fault that Nada didn't perform at his best.


Also, it's not like any of them are satirical... or anything...
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Spicy Pepper
Profile Joined December 2009
United States632 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-11 17:25:29
April 11 2011 17:16 GMT
#3350
On April 11 2011 05:04 Spicy Pepper wrote:
please do not talk about the topic that is most obviously affecting player reactions.

User was warned for this post

not sure who gave me this warning, but you're an ass. i wasn't being sarcastic.

User was warned for this post
RxN
Profile Joined May 2010
United States255 Posts
April 11 2011 17:26 GMT
#3351
On April 12 2011 02:16 Spicy Pepper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2011 05:04 Spicy Pepper wrote:
please do not talk about the topic that is most obviously affecting player reactions.

User was warned for this post

not sure who gave me this warning, but you're an ass. i wasn't being sarcastic.

User was warned for this post


Considering that yesterday people were getting 2 day bans for comments like the one you made I would be counting my lucky stars it was only a warning. Although, I suspect this latest comment of yours will remedy that.
Rabiator
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany3948 Posts
April 11 2011 17:36 GMT
#3352
On April 11 2011 14:18 Footler wrote:
And if the trend continues then MC is going to rip through the rest of his opponents with zero losses.

... or he may be roflstomped by ThorZaIN next round, who hasnt dropped a game yet and taken out FruitDealer and Tyler. Sure MC is playing more aggressive than Tyler, but ThorZaIN might find a way to defend against the 4-gate.

The way the upsets are rolling in the TSL this time I wouldnt be surprised to see this.
If you cant say what you're meaning, you can never mean what you're saying.
Yaotzin
Profile Joined August 2010
South Africa4280 Posts
April 11 2011 17:39 GMT
#3353
MC is on a totally different level to FD and Tyler (especially the godawful Tyler who is currently impersonating him). Not to say he can't lose, but those games don't really mean anything.
CursedFeanor
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada539 Posts
April 11 2011 17:47 GMT
#3354
On April 11 2011 23:59 danielsan wrote:
Nada played very bad. Under no circumstance can anyone state Kas played a good/solid game as long as the opponent was sub-par.


ehh... what?! so if the opponent plays bad, you can't be playing good/solid yourself? that's one of the most ridiculous claim I've ever read on TL.

Anyone in their right mind will agree that Kas played superb games and also that Nada pretty much crumbled throughout the series.
razy
Profile Joined February 2010
Russian Federation899 Posts
April 11 2011 17:52 GMT
#3355
On April 12 2011 02:36 Rabiator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2011 14:18 Footler wrote:
And if the trend continues then MC is going to rip through the rest of his opponents with zero losses.

... or he may be roflstomped by ThorZaIN next round, who hasnt dropped a game yet and taken out FruitDealer and Tyler. Sure MC is playing more aggressive than Tyler, but ThorZaIN might find a way to defend against the 4-gate.

The way the upsets are rolling in the TSL this time I wouldnt be surprised to see this.


actually mech is good against any kind of wg pushes MC favors. Also i've never seen him playing normal macro PvT except the ones he lost to meching Jinro :3
Nifel
Profile Joined June 2010
706 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-11 17:56:18
April 11 2011 17:55 GMT
#3356
Not gonna go into the Nada vs Kas controversy. Despite all debate, TSL3 has been one hell of a tournament. Excellent games and excellent casting. I don't know if the Husky + Chill pairing have casted any games in the past but so far it's been excellent. They're easily up to par with any other duo out there in my opinion. Obviously DjWheat and Day9 are amazing too, but we all know that.

Now, let's hope this tournament will keep surprising. I've got a hard time seeing anyone touching MC as long as he's somewhat serious about it.

earl2002
Profile Joined January 2011
Russian Federation8 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-11 18:11:29
April 11 2011 18:05 GMT
#3357
On April 12 2011 02:55 Nifel wrote:
I've got a hard time seeing anyone touching MC as long as he's somewhat serious about it.

And of course if he loses he wasn't serious about it
you can chill on making excuses, got 2 more weeks until the game.
Skydancer
Profile Joined April 2011
Italy249 Posts
April 11 2011 18:38 GMT
#3358
I know that MC is practising with a lag of 3 seconds at least... and still winning 3-0 ... so if he lose he don't have any excuses. :-D Nio can avoid lag... in matrix is only a matter of will! ;-)
MMA | MC | Dear
papaz
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden4149 Posts
April 11 2011 18:51 GMT
#3359
Nada playing very bad =(

what the hell was those games about.

Sad to see qxc going out like that as well but he was being a bit too predictable.
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
April 11 2011 19:00 GMT
#3360
Will we see interviews for the winners in the RO16 at all?
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