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Redunzl
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
862 Posts
April 11 2011 04:20 GMT
#3281
On April 11 2011 12:29 namedplayer wrote:
can MC play next TSL match while he is in Sweden?


TSL matches are not played at a specified time. the players agree on a time at their mutual convenience. then they ship the replays to TL who then gives them to the casters who send them back to TL for editing and broadcast.
MeatlessTaco
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States302 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-11 04:21:54
April 11 2011 04:20 GMT
#3282
I don't think we got to see how good Kas is. Nada beat himself. He was hardcapped and had to put down 4 desperation depots at the same time, later he had units queued 4 deep. These are pretty low-level mistakes.

Edit: Lag doesn't cause this. Do not cite lag as a reason why Nada sucked.
Ansinjunger
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2451 Posts
April 11 2011 04:21 GMT
#3283
On April 11 2011 12:29 namedplayer wrote:
can MC play next TSL match while he is in Sweden?


This is what I am hoping. MC is one player I really don't want to see handicapped by lag, given how important micro is to his play style. If someone beats him then there's zero excuses or reasons (lag, practice, etc.).
Takkara
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2503 Posts
April 11 2011 04:25 GMT
#3284
On April 11 2011 13:20 Redunzl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2011 12:29 namedplayer wrote:
can MC play next TSL match while he is in Sweden?


TSL matches are not played at a specified time. the players agree on a time at their mutual convenience. then they ship the replays to TL who then gives them to the casters who send them back to TL for editing and broadcast.


The TSL is recorded live off of replays. There is no "sending back to TL".
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pyro19
Profile Joined August 2010
6575 Posts
April 11 2011 04:38 GMT
#3285
On April 11 2011 13:21 Ansinjunger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2011 12:29 namedplayer wrote:
can MC play next TSL match while he is in Sweden?


This is what I am hoping. MC is one player I really don't want to see handicapped by lag, given how important micro is to his play style. If someone beats him then there's zero excuses or reasons (lag, practice, etc.).


MC will be a very strong contender for the finals if he plays the finals in Sweden. NO LAG MC = BOSS TOSS
Thy Shall Die Alone...or emm..something like that.
Daz89
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia41 Posts
April 11 2011 04:53 GMT
#3286
Must say, I haven't seen a huge amount of Kas' games before, but he played incredibly well. People are trying to downplay it saying Nada played badly (which I'll admit, he didn't play his best), but I'd say that was more a factor of the pressure Kas was putting on. Give credit where credit is due.
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
April 11 2011 04:56 GMT
#3287
Nada deserve to lose, go banshee in almost every 1st game of a BoX series. His timing is really off, he play TvT like he was playing TvP. No map control, 3rd expansion timing always too late.

Kas on the other hand is a total boss, play almost flawless in 3 games. He will get very far in this tourney. At least to the semi.
Terran
s4life
Profile Joined March 2007
Peru1519 Posts
April 11 2011 04:57 GMT
#3288
On April 11 2011 12:40 HowSoOnIsNow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2011 08:31 Bobster wrote:
On April 11 2011 08:22 HowSoOnIsNow wrote:
The Tsl doesnt mean much to me anymore, anyways. The WC was very telling, and it's all i need to know about the states of the foreigners. There is no doubt in my mind that Nada is a better player than Kas, sadly, Nada doesn't take the game very seriously yet. I guess it's Mc's tournament to win now.
The Wc doesnt mean much to me anymore, anyways. TSL3 was very telling, and it's all i need to know about the states of the koreans. There is no doubt in my mind that Kas is a better player than Nada, sadly. bla bla bs bs etc etc

Seriously, guy? Like, seriously? This deification of Korean players needs. to. stop. It's a level playing field. Koreans win in some tournaments, foreigners in others. Each take single games and entire series off each other.

Wake up and smell the roses, this ain't the BW scene anymore.

hahahaha that was hilarious, i saw that kind of response somewhere else, dont remember though.

Well no, i wasnt impressed by Kas, and Nada is just a better player all around. He did get beat, and i didnt use the lag argument. Nada got beat, but he's still a better player than Kas. It's like when idra got beat by Cruncher, i dont think anyone would say that Idra is the inferior player. Again, not saying Kas doesnt deserve the win or anything. He does. But i also know what Nada can do with proper training. The guy is the ultimate progammer. Kas got nothing on him. Pure fan boyism? yes! Proud of it.


The guy WAS the ultimate progamer.. 5 years ago.. nowadays, he's getting invites and what not based on his former glory, not on actual results in current tournaments.. same with Boxer.
Hikko
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1126 Posts
April 11 2011 04:58 GMT
#3289
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I think I might not be winning the Liquibet this season....
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Footler
Profile Joined January 2010
United States560 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-11 05:19:07
April 11 2011 05:18 GMT
#3290
Based off the way things have been going. Next weekend will be:

Cruncher > Mondragon
Naniwa > Goody
Hasuobs > Morrow
Sen = Boxer

And if the trend continues then MC is going to rip through the rest of his opponents with zero losses.

EDIT: Just a little bitter as pretty much all of my favorite players are falling left and right. Fortunately I love MC.
I am The-Sink! Parting bandwagoner before it became a soul train.
spaZzNx-`
Profile Joined January 2011
Hong Kong1221 Posts
April 11 2011 05:35 GMT
#3291
Although NaDa didn't play too well he's still a great player. He's very consistent and he wasn't eliminated by a no name in GSL or something, he had to play July twice, who is really getting back to his former glory ^^
TeamLiquid fighting~ Gogo SlayerS Terrans!
littlechava
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States7218 Posts
April 11 2011 05:40 GMT
#3292
On April 11 2011 14:18 Footler wrote:
Based off the way things have been going. Next weekend will be:

Cruncher > Mondragon
Naniwa > Goody
Hasuobs > Morrow
Sen = Boxer

And if the trend continues then MC is going to rip through the rest of his opponents with zero losses.

EDIT: Just a little bitter as pretty much all of my favorite players are falling left and right. Fortunately I love MC.

...? how can you base those predictions off of the results that have occurred? those players have literally nothing to do with the the players that have played :\
Entusman #12
classicsmore
Profile Joined November 2010
United States36 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-11 06:25:38
April 11 2011 05:48 GMT
#3293
On April 11 2011 14:40 littlechava wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2011 14:18 Footler wrote:
Based off the way things have been going. Next weekend will be:

Cruncher > Mondragon
Naniwa > Goody
Hasuobs > Morrow
Sen = Boxer

And if the trend continues then MC is going to rip through the rest of his opponents with zero losses.

EDIT: Just a little bitter as pretty much all of my favorite players are falling left and right. Fortunately I love MC.

...? how can you base those predictions off of the results that have occurred? those players have literally nothing to do with the the players that have played :\


I think he's just saying that underdogs will continue to roll, since there have been so many upsets.

EDIT: nvm: That or just Protoss continue to roll. Analytical thought fail.
MechKing
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3004 Posts
April 11 2011 05:52 GMT
#3294
On April 11 2011 14:48 classicsmore wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2011 14:40 littlechava wrote:
On April 11 2011 14:18 Footler wrote:
Based off the way things have been going. Next weekend will be:

Cruncher > Mondragon
Naniwa > Goody
Hasuobs > Morrow
Sen = Boxer

And if the trend continues then MC is going to rip through the rest of his opponents with zero losses.

EDIT: Just a little bitter as pretty much all of my favorite players are falling left and right. Fortunately I love MC.

...? how can you base those predictions off of the results that have occurred? those players have literally nothing to do with the the players that have played :\


I think he's just saying that underdogs will continue to roll, since there have been so many upsets.

I don't think that either CrunCher, Naniwa or Hasuobs are underdogs lol. Sen and boxer are about equal though, I agree.
Longshank
Profile Joined March 2010
1648 Posts
April 11 2011 05:55 GMT
#3295
On April 11 2011 14:48 classicsmore wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2011 14:40 littlechava wrote:
On April 11 2011 14:18 Footler wrote:
Based off the way things have been going. Next weekend will be:

Cruncher > Mondragon
Naniwa > Goody
Hasuobs > Morrow
Sen = Boxer

And if the trend continues then MC is going to rip through the rest of his opponents with zero losses.

EDIT: Just a little bitter as pretty much all of my favorite players are falling left and right. Fortunately I love MC.

...? how can you base those predictions off of the results that have occurred? those players have literally nothing to do with the the players that have played :\


I think he's just saying that underdogs will continue to roll, since there have been so many upsets.


Uhm, only in the SotG universe would Cruncher, Naniwa and Hasu be considered underdogs in those matches.

He could be referring to ex-wc3 players though.
purgerinho
Profile Joined June 2008
Croatia919 Posts
April 11 2011 05:58 GMT
#3296
nah, koreans in this tournament aren't on highest level (except MC)...
SUMMARIZED (by DeMu): You CANNOT surprise a top level Protoss with a build
internaut
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada23 Posts
April 11 2011 06:03 GMT
#3297
I agree, MVP and Nestea are chumps
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
April 11 2011 06:27 GMT
#3298
On April 11 2011 12:40 HowSoOnIsNow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2011 08:31 Bobster wrote:
On April 11 2011 08:22 HowSoOnIsNow wrote:
The Tsl doesnt mean much to me anymore, anyways. The WC was very telling, and it's all i need to know about the states of the foreigners. There is no doubt in my mind that Nada is a better player than Kas, sadly, Nada doesn't take the game very seriously yet. I guess it's Mc's tournament to win now.
The Wc doesnt mean much to me anymore, anyways. TSL3 was very telling, and it's all i need to know about the states of the koreans. There is no doubt in my mind that Kas is a better player than Nada, sadly. bla bla bs bs etc etc

Seriously, guy? Like, seriously? This deification of Korean players needs. to. stop. It's a level playing field. Koreans win in some tournaments, foreigners in others. Each take single games and entire series off each other.

Wake up and smell the roses, this ain't the BW scene anymore.

hahahaha that was hilarious, i saw that kind of response somewhere else, dont remember though.

Well no, i wasnt impressed by Kas, and Nada is just a better player all around. He did get beat, and i didnt use the lag argument. Nada got beat, but he's still a better player than Kas. It's like when idra got beat by Cruncher, i dont think anyone would say that Idra is the inferior player. Again, not saying Kas doesnt deserve the win or anything. He does. But i also know what Nada can do with proper training. The guy is the ultimate progammer. Kas got nothing on him. Pure fan boyism? yes! Proud of it.


clueless post, if you weren't impressed by kas, then NaDa is absolute trash. (which isn't the case).


Completely dominant performance from Kas, I think those of us who watch him play a lot knew he would beat NaDa, he's a great terran.
Tegin
Profile Joined November 2010
United States840 Posts
April 11 2011 06:38 GMT
#3299
On April 11 2011 06:43 Chill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2011 06:26 FinBenton wrote:
On April 11 2011 05:58 Chill wrote:
On April 11 2011 05:55 cheesemaster wrote:
Okay my question to people that dont think lag was a factor at all in any of the KR vs US/EU games is, why are all these Korean players underperfoming in every single game then, aside from MC so far every single game koreans have made silly mistakes that you would never see them make in a LAN setting or a GSL, like literally never. So what is your reasoning for them underperfoming? Regardless of weather they are used to the opposing players play style or not it shouldnt mean that they get supply blocked mis micro etc etc so often when we see them play at such a high caliber at Lan settings like the gsl.

How did MC micro his Zealot perfectly in game 1 vs Ciara?
How did Nada micro his Banshee perfectly against TLO?
.

Its not like huge LAG is there in every game.

User was warned for this post


Ok so if Koreans win, it was fine. If they lose, it was lag. Got it.

If lag is such a factor wouldn't the Koreans have practiced in it before so they know what kind of lag to expect? And if they deemed it too laggy to be playable at a high level, wouldn't they have asked their respected teams/sponsors to send them to either NA/EU for their game(s)? Or is that just an unreasonable request? Regardless, if they or anyone else complains about lag, wouldn't this solve the problem? Or are they just not taking the TSL seriously enough to send players abroad for such an event?
Pain is weakness leaving the body.
nvrs
Profile Joined October 2010
Greece481 Posts
April 11 2011 06:40 GMT
#3300
As i said on the RO16 Day thread, i think one of Thorzain/Kas has a decent chance to win the whole thing - the both look monsters and at the top of their game.
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