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On April 11 2011 07:51 chonkyfire wrote:
What's nada's excuse for playing like shit exactly?
Don't get me wrong I think nada is capable to of performing way better than what he showed today. I don't know it seems like every time I see nada play Sc2, especially TvT, he seems to be obsessed with these 2 base timing pushes. Just not a fan at all.
Also kas is easily one of the best terrans in europe. He's at least in the conversation with sjow and bratOK. I think TLO could be the best european terran if had been playing only terran this whole time. I know goody does pretty well, but I would be surprised to see him relevant much longer, I could be wrong though
not really an excuse but hes a full time student at a university since he left BW and has never actually trained in the ogs house. its quite well known nada doesnt train hard
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On April 11 2011 10:02 FallDownMarigold wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2011 09:54 sleigh bells wrote:
can anyone recommend a nada/kas game or were they roflstomps? I wouldn't recommend any. In every single game Nada beat himself. He didn't make supply depots. He didn't make SCVs. He failed at the absolute basics, so what can you expect... He got flattened. I was watching his CCs and his supply and I was shocked at how many times I saw CCs not producing, and by how many times his supply cap was stuck with NO DEPOTS in production! Seriously. Nada must've been off somewhere else mentally, because that definitely wasn't the Nada people are used to seeing.
i've only seen nada play sc2, and never really felt he was too special. but i've never seen him play as bad as you describe either, hmm
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On April 11 2011 10:02 FallDownMarigold wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2011 09:54 sleigh bells wrote:
can anyone recommend a nada/kas game or were they roflstomps? I wouldn't recommend any. In every single game Nada beat himself. He didn't make supply depots. He didn't make SCVs. He failed at the absolute basics, so what can you expect... He got flattened. I was watching his CCs and his supply and I was shocked at how many times I saw CCs not producing, and by how many times his supply cap was stuck with NO DEPOTS in production! Seriously. Nada must've been off somewhere else mentally, because that definitely wasn't the Nada people are used to seeing.
I would guess that NaDa practices more with the ladies than he does on battle.net, he just strikes me as being in that phase of life.
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Aww, wake up to see qxc and nada deadead 
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Nice recovery from Adelscott, and simply stunningly amazing play by Kas. I mean, there was no ands, ifs, or buts about it. It was an utterly dominant performance. It was the most entertaining 3-0 series I've seen if for no other reason than to watch him simply pull ahead by just executing that well. It was like MC vs White-Ra where MC would just magically get ahead in the build order through sheer force of will.
But yeah, for Adel, you need iron fortitude to recover from QXC hanging two dominant games on you like that. The stress of all that dropping will get to you, but he pulled himself off the mat and handled his business. So impressed.
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On April 11 2011 10:06 sleigh bells wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2011 10:02 FallDownMarigold wrote:On April 11 2011 09:54 sleigh bells wrote:
can anyone recommend a nada/kas game or were they roflstomps? I wouldn't recommend any. In every single game Nada beat himself. He didn't make supply depots. He didn't make SCVs. He failed at the absolute basics, so what can you expect... He got flattened. I was watching his CCs and his supply and I was shocked at how many times I saw CCs not producing, and by how many times his supply cap was stuck with NO DEPOTS in production! Seriously. Nada must've been off somewhere else mentally, because that definitely wasn't the Nada people are used to seeing. i've only seen nada play sc2, and never really felt he was too special. but i've never seen him play as bad as you describe either, hmm
He is a legend for a reason; people hype him up because he was the most successful BW gamer of all time (don't know if that record still stands) - him playing for oGs is a big big deal, the only problem is he doesn't have the priorities that he had during his BW days. It is a fair excuse; studying > SC2 for him right now. But once that is done, i wander if he will dedicate himself to gaming full time.
On April 11 2011 10:07 niteReloaded wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2011 10:02 FallDownMarigold wrote:On April 11 2011 09:54 sleigh bells wrote:
can anyone recommend a nada/kas game or were they roflstomps? I wouldn't recommend any. In every single game Nada beat himself. He didn't make supply depots. He didn't make SCVs. He failed at the absolute basics, so what can you expect... He got flattened. I was watching his CCs and his supply and I was shocked at how many times I saw CCs not producing, and by how many times his supply cap was stuck with NO DEPOTS in production! Seriously. Nada must've been off somewhere else mentally, because that definitely wasn't the Nada people are used to seeing. I would guess that NaDa practices more with the ladies than he does on battle.net, he just strikes me as being in that phase of life.
It is well known that NaDa's main focus right now is school; he doesn't live in the oGs house and only pops past now and then to play some games; it is quite insane that he can maintain Code S for so long when he doesn't even train nearly as much as anybody else; he definitely has potential, he just has to finish with school already!
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Really disappointed with nadas games and I'm also suprised at how suprised the commentators were at Kas' turrets in game one seeing as nada pretty much opens with a banshee every single game
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I think the Koreans just got together and decided they would throw all their games in the TSL... except MC is so good he couldn't lose though he tried.
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On April 11 2011 11:28 Scrandom wrote:
Really disappointed with nadas games and I'm also suprised at how suprised the commentators were at Kas' turrets in game one seeing as nada pretty much opens with a banshee every single game
They weren't surprised about there being turrets, they were surprised at the unorthodox placement of them - positioning them farther out in the banshee's flight path and not in the mineral lines.
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On April 11 2011 09:54 sleigh bells wrote:
can anyone recommend a nada/kas game or were they roflstomps?
I would recommend all of them... Kas builds are extremely solid.. everyone should take note.
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TSL has the big block of people that just watch big tournaments, with more than 10k in prize pool, and the people that watch everything just happen to be there ^^ jk jk that the reason for 50k live, and all those VOD views.
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It's too bad that nada's losses will be focused more on lag then kas' superb performance.
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I think Liquid`Tyler is under-practiced at the moment. He most likely doesn't have enough time to devote. At any rate, he is a beast when he's well practiced. Perhaps he has been feeling off, and I know how that feels. I'm always rooting for you Liquid`Tyler!
Also, Kas was incredible versus Nada. There really is nothing to say--he outplayed him at every step. We can say this and that, but in the end, Kas was the victor.
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can MC play next TSL match while he is in Sweden?
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Kas fighting!!!!!!!
Watching him annihilate NaDa like that was a real treat.
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On April 11 2011 12:23 ffdestiny wrote:
I think Liquid`Tyler is under-practiced at the moment. He most likely doesn't have enough time to devote. At any rate, he is a beast when he's well practiced. Perhaps he has been feeling off, and I know how that feels. I'm always rooting for you Liquid`Tyler!
Also, Kas was incredible versus Nada. There really is nothing to say--he outplayed him at every step. We can say this and that, but in the end, Kas was the victor.
if i remember correctly, he said he was playing the best starcraft 2 of his life and that his mlg performance was bad and he knows it. if he was serious about that maybe he just had a bad showing today, which is odd. he seems to either look unbeatable or very unsatisfying..sometimes even when he does win it just looks like a different guy sometimes.
he's my favorite player, and the knowledge that he has if you've watched his stream or when he talks game on SOTG is no joke. he has a serious understanding of the game and builds i just feel like he should be a very dominant and consistent player.
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I think Kas is just better than Nada. he defntly can beat nada without lag advantage.
but still lag issue is big thing that can't ignore.. kr-->na.. It's worse than your thoguht. i hope mc play next game before come back to korea
ps. I'm sure that White-Ra coulda beat MC if he was outside of korea...
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On April 11 2011 08:31 Bobster wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2011 08:22 HowSoOnIsNow wrote:
The Tsl doesnt mean much to me anymore, anyways. The WC was very telling, and it's all i need to know about the states of the foreigners. There is no doubt in my mind that Nada is a better player than Kas, sadly, Nada doesn't take the game very seriously yet. I guess it's Mc's tournament to win now. The Wc doesnt mean much to me anymore, anyways. TSL3 was very telling, and it's all i need to know about the states of the koreans. There is no doubt in my mind that Kas is a better player than Nada, sadly. bla bla bs bs etc etc Seriously, guy? Like, seriously? This deification of Korean players needs. to. stop. It's a level playing field. Koreans win in some tournaments, foreigners in others. Each take single games and entire series off each other. Wake up and smell the roses, this ain't the BW scene anymore.
hahahaha that was hilarious, i saw that kind of response somewhere else, dont remember though.
Well no, i wasnt impressed by Kas, and Nada is just a better player all around. He did get beat, and i didnt use the lag argument. Nada got beat, but he's still a better player than Kas. It's like when idra got beat by Cruncher, i dont think anyone would say that Idra is the inferior player. Again, not saying Kas doesnt deserve the win or anything. He does. But i also know what Nada can do with proper training. The guy is the ultimate progammer. Kas got nothing on him. Pure fan boyism? yes! Proud of it.
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On April 11 2011 12:40 HowSoOnIsNow wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2011 08:31 Bobster wrote:On April 11 2011 08:22 HowSoOnIsNow wrote:
The Tsl doesnt mean much to me anymore, anyways. The WC was very telling, and it's all i need to know about the states of the foreigners. There is no doubt in my mind that Nada is a better player than Kas, sadly, Nada doesn't take the game very seriously yet. I guess it's Mc's tournament to win now. The Wc doesnt mean much to me anymore, anyways. TSL3 was very telling, and it's all i need to know about the states of the koreans. There is no doubt in my mind that Kas is a better player than Nada, sadly. bla bla bs bs etc etc Seriously, guy? Like, seriously? This deification of Korean players needs. to. stop. It's a level playing field. Koreans win in some tournaments, foreigners in others. Each take single games and entire series off each other. Wake up and smell the roses, this ain't the BW scene anymore. hahahaha that was hilarious, i saw that kind of response somewhere else, dont remember though. Well no, i wasnt impressed by Kas, and Nada is just a better player all around. He did get beat, and i didnt use the lag argument. Nada got beat, but he's still a better player than Kas. It's like when idra got beat by Cruncher, i dont think anyone would say that Idra is the inferior player. Again, not saying Kas doesnt deserve the win or anything. He does. But i also know what Nada can do with proper training. The guy is the ultimate progammer. Kas got nothing on him. Pure fan boyism? yes! Proud of it.
If NaDa is really a better all-around player, Kas wouldn't have destroyed him so easily.
That was a very lopsided series, even moreso than WhiteRa losing...
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On April 11 2011 08:31 Bobster wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2011 08:22 HowSoOnIsNow wrote:
The Tsl doesnt mean much to me anymore, anyways. The WC was very telling, and it's all i need to know about the states of the foreigners. There is no doubt in my mind that Nada is a better player than Kas, sadly, Nada doesn't take the game very seriously yet. I guess it's Mc's tournament to win now. The Wc doesnt mean much to me anymore, anyways. TSL3 was very telling, and it's all i need to know about the states of the koreans. There is no doubt in my mind that Kas is a better player than Nada, sadly. bla bla bs bs etc etc Seriously, guy? Like, seriously? This deification of Korean players needs. to. stop. It's a level playing field. Koreans win in some tournaments, foreigners in others. Each take single games and entire series off each other. Wake up and smell the roses, this ain't the BW scene anymore.
If you're suggesting the foreign scene isn't as far off from the Korean scene as it was in sc1, you're completely correct. If you're suggesting the foreign scene is completely equal to the korean scene, you're absolutely retarded.
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