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Pebbz
Profile Joined October 2010
United States84 Posts
April 02 2011 20:15 GMT
#3441
On April 03 2011 05:13 Karthane wrote:
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On April 03 2011 05:12 Pebbz wrote:
Just lost a ton of respect for dde, the game was clearly lagging from start to finish.


...and that has what to do with Dde?


dde claiming it wasn't lagging? It clearly was lagging.
Low APM is the cure to carpal tunnel.
SnuggleZhenya
Profile Joined July 2010
596 Posts
April 02 2011 20:15 GMT
#3442
On April 03 2011 05:13 vrok wrote:
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On April 03 2011 05:10 Yaotzin wrote:
On April 03 2011 05:07 vrok wrote:
On April 03 2011 05:07 Yaotzin wrote:
On April 03 2011 05:05 khazgore wrote:
Why dont blizzard just implement LAN support?

Piracy.

Greed.

They're a business. Their raison d'etre is to make money.

Exactly. Ruining their own product is not a good way to make money. It's, in fact, bad business.


Which is why we've asked over and over again to allow for some kind of tournament edition that allows for lan play. The reality is that they are right, no LAN doesn't matter 99% of the time for most people, but considering that the long term success of SC2 is tied to the success as an eSport, it seems like it would be GOOD for business.
You'll never get better being an angry nerd sitting alone in your room.
MaestroSC
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2073 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-02 20:16:46
April 02 2011 20:15 GMT
#3443
On April 03 2011 05:13 hydra21 wrote:
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On April 03 2011 05:12 Pebbz wrote:
Just lost a ton of respect for dde, the game was clearly lagging from start to finish.


The game was lagging for him too, he did a build to counter what grubby was doing and had the units to end the game regardless of lag. What do you want from him?


my problem with DDE is the fact that he tried to make Grubby look stupid knowing their matches were being streamed live to an audience.

Grubby: "I'm getting lag."

DDE: 'THERE IS NO LAG YOUR JUST CRYING CAUSE YOU'RE LOSING!" even tho there was clearly HUGE lag spikes. (this is obviously an exaggeration but this is EXACTLY how dde meant it by makiong T.T and "there is no lag for me" which was a lie
adeezy
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1428 Posts
April 02 2011 20:15 GMT
#3444
On April 03 2011 05:15 provrorsbarn wrote:
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On April 03 2011 05:14 Karthane wrote:
On April 03 2011 05:13 panzer wrote:
this is a big joke. i never really appreciated gomtv until MLG pro Circus.


Well MLG can't control lag, it's because Blizzard doesn't give us LAN support.


They said its not Battle.net......and Bnet is working fine ....MLG just sucks, they would fuck this event up even with LAN support


except there would be no lag. lol
I asked my friend how the ratio at a party was, he replied. "Let's just say for every guy there was two dudes."
Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
April 02 2011 20:15 GMT
#3445
Dde saying he had no lag to downplay it lost my respect for him. I really hope they do a regame there or that Grubby just rolls over him in the next games.
hydra21
Profile Joined November 2010
94 Posts
April 02 2011 20:15 GMT
#3446
On April 03 2011 05:14 NotSupporting wrote:
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On April 03 2011 05:12 garlicface wrote:
On April 03 2011 05:11 WallieP wrote:
%#! that dde guy, his reaction was so fucking lame...

Dude I understand that you're a big Grubby fan, but come on, don't blame dde for that.


dde is not to blame for the lagg but to say "no lagg on my end" when the game is clearly lagging is rather bad mannered.


Is it remotely possible he wasn't lagging and he was afraid grubby was using it as an excuse since he (grubby) was in a really bad spot regardless of lag?
garlicface
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada4196 Posts
April 02 2011 20:15 GMT
#3447
On April 03 2011 05:14 enliveee wrote:
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On April 03 2011 05:13 panzer wrote:
this is a big joke. i never really appreciated gomtv until MLG pro Circus.

I lol'd, it's Pro Circuit.

That's the joke
#TeamBuLba
xzumiex
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium100 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-02 20:16:48
April 02 2011 20:16 GMT
#3448
No lan support is really hurting starcraft2

it happened in the GSL aswell, like 3 days ago, 46min and then dropped :/
MechKing
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3004 Posts
April 02 2011 20:16 GMT
#3449
On April 03 2011 05:14 stevarius wrote:
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On April 03 2011 05:13 mnofstl007 wrote:
Dear Blizzard,

Your lack of Lan, a completely necessary tool required for the success of eSPORTS and tournaments, is now RUINING games. Please implement a fucking lan so you don't ruin the scene you are trying to "promote." Seriously, this is highlighting a MAJOR flaw with your game development. I understgand that you don't want people playing with ripped versions of Starcraft 2 cause you guys really need the money it generates, but how about you distribute copies, to everyone who buys a tournament license, that have lan capabilities. You still get your safety from hackers/rippers, but you give the scene something they have been begging for since the beta: LAN.

Thanks,
Someone who actually likes eSPORTS despite you trying to kill them while saying "we are promoting them!"



GOMTV doesn't have this problem.

U mad that MLG can't compete?

Are you serious? During the GSTL we had crashes constantly. It happens all the time.
Coolwhip
Profile Joined March 2011
927 Posts
April 02 2011 20:16 GMT
#3450
On April 03 2011 05:14 Troopi25 wrote:
Grubby travels around the world to lose this way.

I'm raging srsly


Indeed.

Lag? check
Horrible stream? check
Letting audience wait 10 hours? check
No fair play? check


MLG damaging esports? check
Marcus420
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada1923 Posts
April 02 2011 20:16 GMT
#3451
Poor grubby; i wouldve killed someone by now.
Sneakyz
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2361 Posts
April 02 2011 20:16 GMT
#3452
Every MLG always the same deal. Delays, fuckups and all kinds of shizzle, yet I find myself watching again at every new MLG event. I must be fucking stupid.
I have found the Iron to be my greatest friend. It never freaks out on me, never runs. Friends may come and go. But two hundred pounds is always two hundred pounds.
zeru
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
8156 Posts
April 02 2011 20:16 GMT
#3453
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Mailing
Profile Joined March 2011
United States3087 Posts
April 02 2011 20:16 GMT
#3454
On April 03 2011 05:14 stevarius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2011 05:13 mnofstl007 wrote:
Dear Blizzard,

Your lack of Lan, a completely necessary tool required for the success of eSPORTS and tournaments, is now RUINING games. Please implement a fucking lan so you don't ruin the scene you are trying to "promote." Seriously, this is highlighting a MAJOR flaw with your game development. I understgand that you don't want people playing with ripped versions of Starcraft 2 cause you guys really need the money it generates, but how about you distribute copies, to everyone who buys a tournament license, that have lan capabilities. You still get your safety from hackers/rippers, but you give the scene something they have been begging for since the beta: LAN.

Thanks,
Someone who actually likes eSPORTS despite you trying to kill them while saying "we are promoting them!"



GOMTV doesn't have this problem.

U mad that MLG can't compete?


GSL is in south korea, with the fastest and most advanced internet in the world

blizzard is trying to promote e-sports in the west, where we have shitty internet, by FORCING us to play it with internet.
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Zarahtra
Profile Joined May 2010
Iceland4053 Posts
April 02 2011 20:16 GMT
#3455
On April 03 2011 05:12 Jibba wrote:
I cannot believe MLG unpaused in an hour+ delayed game.

How can you not regame that?

Agreed, the game should've just been replayed(even though it sucks, since it was so far into the game). That being said you can't really regame that. There's a very good argument that that'd happen no matter the lag. As soon as the hellions had done that dmg, there's not much to do tbh.
Pebbz
Profile Joined October 2010
United States84 Posts
April 02 2011 20:16 GMT
#3456
On April 03 2011 05:15 vyyye wrote:
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On April 03 2011 05:15 Schwammerl wrote:
Wow, dde seems do be really bm... such an liar...

Err, correct me if I'm wrong but isn't it possible for one player/several obs to have spikes and one player be lagless?


Not possible.
Low APM is the cure to carpal tunnel.
ffdestiny
Profile Joined September 2010
United States773 Posts
April 02 2011 20:16 GMT
#3457
On April 03 2011 05:15 Teogamer wrote:
For some reason, this event is causing me to really start to hate DJWheat's casting... is he still a platinum zerg?


Diamond smurf, plat smurf. One of those is Zerg.
Soleron
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1324 Posts
April 02 2011 20:16 GMT
#3458
On April 03 2011 05:13 JustPassingBy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2011 05:11 BALIstik916 wrote:
On April 03 2011 05:05 khazgore wrote:
Why dont blizzard just implement LAN support?


It's an anti-piracy measure. People could pirate the game, use LAN with programs like Hamachi and essentially never log onto BNET making them unbannable. It sucks for ESPORTS but it's a business and it's all about the money!



It should rather be, why doesn't blizzard create LAN versions of this game which they can hand out to the big tournaments?


Because it would only have to leak once. That would happen pretty fast.

I mean, I disagree with Blizzard completely. I think they could make more money with a LAN version; huge piracy of games/films/music increases exposure and thus sales, and DRM doesn't actually make more money for the company in the long run.
Kenod
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria32 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-02 20:17:09
April 02 2011 20:16 GMT
#3459
This is fing retarded ... how can they unpause after a 1 hour 30 minutes break , although its obvious in the first few seconds after unpause that the lag is still there? i if were a progamer there i would rage so hard... sad that grubby is too professional to do that =(
LoLAdriankat
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4307 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-02 20:17:09
April 02 2011 20:16 GMT
#3460
On April 03 2011 05:14 stevarius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2011 05:13 mnofstl007 wrote:
Dear Blizzard,

Your lack of Lan, a completely necessary tool required for the success of eSPORTS and tournaments, is now RUINING games. Please implement a fucking lan so you don't ruin the scene you are trying to "promote." Seriously, this is highlighting a MAJOR flaw with your game development. I understgand that you don't want people playing with ripped versions of Starcraft 2 cause you guys really need the money it generates, but how about you distribute copies, to everyone who buys a tournament license, that have lan capabilities. You still get your safety from hackers/rippers, but you give the scene something they have been begging for since the beta: LAN.

Thanks,
Someone who actually likes eSPORTS despite you trying to kill them while saying "we are promoting them!"



GOMTV doesn't have this problem.

U mad that MLG can't compete?

GOMTV doesn't have 60 computers connected to the internet while running three streams. Dreamhack could handle 1000's of computers, but Swedish internet is amazing.

LAN would fix any problem with American internet being shit.
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