[TSL] Ro32 Day 4 - Page 402

On March 28 2011 07:45 Suerte wrote:
Does anyone know how long the VoD's tend to take to come out? I missed all of the games today

On March 28 2011 07:43 Jimmeh wrote:


Your hyperbole is pretty good. I didn't say anything about Protoss taking 8 bases before max, I
said that taking your 4th once you're maxed is definitely not a macro oriented play style.


I'm sorry that you're a Protoss player who assumes that 3 bases = macro.

On March 28 2011 07:46 dunc wrote:


This. Honestly, LR threads get so annoying when Idra plays which is one of the reasons I'm glad he's no longer in GSL. Protoss/Terran attacks in the first 10 min it's cheese/all-in, Protoss/Terran attack 40 min into the game when they're on 3/4/5 bases and it's cheese/all-in.

Yet Zergs baneling busting people is "punishing someone for being greedy". Can this whine just stop already? The game isn't entirely balanced, we get it, it's been out for barely a year. There are about 40k threads on this forum describing the same thing.

We don't need Zergs crying about their race everytime a Zerg plays. Idra was greedy, made drones instead of units and lost because of it.



edit: That said today's games were amazing. I'm sad TLO lost but it was hard to pick who to root for since both TLO and Nada are amazing people and players. Better luck next time I'm sure!

On March 28 2011 07:24 Ghost-z wrote:

Don't these 4 countries always fair well at WCG as far as points from across all games? It is quite interesting.

On March 28 2011 07:54 Disposition1989 wrote:
1 base all in used to be cheese, then 2 base all in was considered cheese. now 3 base all in is frowned upon. anyone see a problem with this trend? wowwwwwwwww

On March 28 2011 07:49 Demosthen3s wrote:


Tomorrow they will be up!


Kudos to the TSL3 observer, who is doing the observing? Great job haven't seen anyone thank him yet. Pointing out lots of things calmy for the viewers, always listening to the casters and selecting everything they mention. Great work, underappreciated job!

Looking forward to ro16.

On March 28 2011 07:49 Demosthen3s wrote:

Kudos to the TSL3 observer, who is doing the observing? Great job haven't seen anyone thank him yet. Pointing out lots of things calmy for the viewers, always listening to the casters and selecting everything they mention. Great work, underappreciated job!

Looking forward to ro16.

On March 28 2011 07:51 Primadog wrote:
Regarding lag, this is the comparison between players on EU or NA servers versus Korea or Asian servers:
Server 7:5 (17:14) - 55%
EU\NA : Korean\Asia
Goody 2:1 NesTea
Adelscott 2:0 MVP
Ciara 0:2 MC
NightEnD 1:2 BoxeR
ThorZaIN 2:0 FruitDealer
TLO 1:2 NaDa
QXC 2:0 Genius
HasuObs 2:1 Huk
Fenix 0:2 Sen
Loner 1:2 White-Ra
MorroW 2:1 Jinro
Kas 2:1 HayprO

On March 28 2011 07:44 Kazius wrote:
Wow, so many people complaining.

TSL 3 is epic. The games are awesome, with styles far more varied than any other SC2 tournament out there, moments of genius, ridiculous comebacks, crazy strategies, a lot of tension, and a very high level of play. The players are top notch, you could hardly select a better bunch from anywhere around the world. The casting is awesome - such a pleasure to get a high dose of Chill which is far too rarely heard outside of TSL, Day[9] is great as always, Wheat is great with borderline genius comedic bits, and even Husky surprising me in a very positive way.

The round of 32 has only just been wrapped up, and already this has been a huge success, with around 50K viewers live each game day on TL streams alone, threads for each game day reaching 400+ pages, VODs that will entertain us for a long time to come. This is an amazing milestone in E-Sports. A piece of history in which we all play a small part.

Be positive guys. Don't focus on the bad in such a great thing.

On March 28 2011 07:23 starcraft2rush wrote:
are there any zergs left to cheer for in the tsl?

On March 28 2011 07:54 Disposition1989 wrote:
1 base all in used to be cheese, then 2 base all in was considered cheese. now 3 base all in is frowned upon. anyone see a problem with this trend? wowwwwwwwww

On March 28 2011 07:54 Disposition1989 wrote:
1 base all in used to be cheese, then 2 base all in was considered cheese. now 3 base all in is frowned upon. anyone see a problem with this trend? wowwwwwwwww

On March 28 2011 07:58 Mailing wrote:


If these 2 base 6gate builds are not cheese, then it does not look good for the future of this game.

People WILL get tired of that shit, which if you read any of the GSL LR threads, people are already doing it very quickly.

Games like Haypro vs Kas are interesting. Games where protoss makes sentries and stalkers and pushes are not. The protoss either destroys with force fields, or loses their gas heavy army and loses. It's "one big attack" syndrome, something that happens waaaaay too much in ZvP.

If you watch SanZenith vs NesTea in last GSL, that is a game where a protoss does not sit and make a deathball. There is constant DT, archons, storms zealot harass, warp prisms, expansions, etc.

On March 28 2011 07:49 kwkwookw wrote:
i hate how just b/c nada won and did banshee harass, people are immediately generalizing that since nada didn't have lag, all other krn players must not have had lag.

first, there's no proof nada did not have lag. and there are claims that the ogs house isp has less lag than other progaming houses. yes he did banshee micro but that could have been one instant in the game when the lag wasn't too high; point is, we don't know.

second, even if nada did not have lag, that doesn't mean other krn players didn't have lag. lag is a highly variable factor in which there are many considerations to be taken care of.

there's a serious dearth of logical thinking here and i hope people realize it instead of riding on the wave of bone-headed fanboyism.

that being said, it's an undeniable fact that there is an inevitable home-ground advantage for American players so one can't say that krn players losing due to lag is unfair. it's just one of those things you have to accept and try to accommodate oneself to the disadvantage as much as possible.

hate to make this post too long, but for progamers, very slight changes in lag time make a huge difference. i watched battle.net attack program (it's a program where bw progamers play against battle.net users) and when jaedong appeared on the show, he stated how it's very difficult to play on battle.net due to the difference in response speed (and we're talking krn battle.net aka very low ping vs lan) so it does make a difference people.

On March 28 2011 07:30 Jimmeh wrote:
Essentially, it basically was.
his entire plan was to turtle to 200/200 colossi/void ray and then push. If the push failed, he'd of lost the game because Idra would have had a stupid amount of bases. Sounds like an all-in to me.