Ret is in

Also happy with Grubby and Artosis. I'm not sure if they are currently the best players in the world, but always fun to watch imo.
Ret fighting!
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Players such as Jinro, HuK, and Adelscott did not apply for this tour, so don't ask why they aren't on this list. DIMAGA, Kas, and LaLush turned applications in late so they will not appear either. Please take some time to learn who exactly applied. Please inform yourself about who applied and who didn't. | ||
EddyBee
Netherlands46 Posts
March 29 2011 08:20 GMT
#2661
Ret is in ![]() Also happy with Grubby and Artosis. I'm not sure if they are currently the best players in the world, but always fun to watch imo. Ret fighting! | ||
xaneda
United Kingdom56 Posts
March 29 2011 08:22 GMT
#2662
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Vorenius
Denmark1979 Posts
March 29 2011 08:27 GMT
#2663
On March 29 2011 17:07 dAPhREAk wrote: Show nested quote + On March 29 2011 16:58 Irave wrote: On March 29 2011 16:56 dAPhREAk wrote: On March 29 2011 16:53 dapierow wrote: can someone please answer WHY THE FUCK IS DIMAGA NOT IN HERE??? i think its because he got in a fight and broke his hand. or.....he didnt apply on time. could be the latter, but without reading the boxed mod edit at the top, cant be sure. The person with the hand injury is Demuslim. Like the top of the post, Dimaga applied late. my attempt at humor was ineffective. =( Only because the recipients were too thick to detect it ![]() | ||
Ciel
Hungary289 Posts
March 29 2011 08:27 GMT
#2664
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cheesemaster
Canada1975 Posts
March 29 2011 08:29 GMT
#2665
On March 29 2011 17:07 jaiiiii wrote: so havent been following the release too closely, but i'm guessing the 5 players tomorrow will be separated between divisions 1-5? Saving any comments about koreans being included/excluded until after they announce the players, so I don't end up eating my own words. Although I'm not the biggest fan of how they decided invites for this season, I suppose all in all it has turned out reasonably well. Hopefully future seasons will have a better way of deciding who gets in and who gets out. NASL application videos are fun and all, but it should be a more sustainable and reliable method in the long run. Future players in the tournament will be decided throught the 2 open tournaments, there will be no more invites after the first season, the bottom 16 of season 1 drop out and are replaced by 8 players from each of the 1024 man tournaments. | ||
Tohrazer
United Kingdom75 Posts
March 29 2011 08:31 GMT
#2666
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EZSkull
United States230 Posts
March 29 2011 08:33 GMT
#2667
On March 29 2011 16:53 dapierow wrote: can someone please answer WHY THE FUCK IS DIMAGA NOT IN HERE??? User was warned for this post And here is further proof that people seriously need to learn how to read. I mean, it's not like it's in an obvious place.. like, you know... at the top of the page or anything. | ||
cheesemaster
Canada1975 Posts
March 29 2011 08:34 GMT
#2668
On March 29 2011 17:17 LesPhoques wrote: [/b]Show nested quote + On March 29 2011 17:01 SupastaR wrote: On March 29 2011 16:47 papaz wrote: On March 29 2011 14:06 ChrysaliS_ wrote: On March 29 2011 13:15 ghostnuke1234 wrote: To the owners of NASL: If Boxer, Nada, MC, and JulyZerg are not part of the last 5, I will not support NASL. I surely hope you are saving the best for last. Does anyone care what you think? If Minigun, Morrow, DeMuslim, and ThorZain are not part of the last 5, I will not support NASL. See how stupid it sounds? (not that I don't also want to see at least MC and Boxer) I agree that [bI will not support NASL] was a bit dramatic. But in all honestly if NASL wants to get off a good start, get viewers even from korea (which you want regardless of this tourney is for NA only, EU only, english speaking only or whatever) you need to have names that draws viewers. - BoxeR - You just can't deny the emperor a seat in this tourney. The PR value of having him in there is huge. - Nada - Read above - July - Read above - MC - 2 time GSL champion made an application, speaking english as well as he could. If the 2 time GSL champion, making an application, doesn't make it in then this tourney loses a lot of credibility. I don't care if MC's doesn't like Big Mac or drink Budweiser or doesn't show me what he does on his spare time or whatever way NASL wants us to "connect" with the players. 2 time GSL champion, considered to be the best player today, applying to NASL should of course without any doubt get in. I am CONVINCED the BoxeR, MC, July and Nada will get in. I was thinking the 5th to be Fruitdealer but now I'm not so sure. MorroW should get a seat also. it's an invitational, they don't want to oversaturate it with koreans, i guess you're not supporting tsl either because of no july? You just don't understand importance of players papaz mentioned. No fucking clue...Why the hell Rainbow was invited? What did he do to get invited? Nothing. Zenio? Nothing. Ensnare? Nothing. I really hope NASL will be a great tournament but so far, they have been disappointing in almost every aspect. Yes, I sound like a raging nerd of which I am not lol, but IMHO decisions made were rather questionable, like inviting ViBe, dde, etc over more popular players which will give more viewers. By not having DeMuslim (which is not 100% certain), we pretty much ignored UK's best player. Dimaga turned in his application late but I think it shouldn't have matter THAT much... Ignoring Eastern European and post-soviet countries here. Boxer,Nada,July (BW legends) will attract Korean viewers as well and having no-namers I stated above will hurt interest in Korea (Well, they might be invited anyways). Yea i dunno about ensnare, he even failed to qualify through the code a qualifiers this season =/ seems like they are taking lower end korean players , players that defently wouldnt increase viewership, rainbow is okay in my mind but zenio and ensnare are only okay, and leaving out top korean players in favor of these players boggles my mind, I totally dont get what these organizers are doing , they want to make money right? Then invite the best Mc July, and the most popular Nada Boxer, if that doesnt happen tommoro i dont know what to say. Im assuming tommoro will be Nada Boxer July Morrow, if not then =/ | ||
cheesemaster
Canada1975 Posts
March 29 2011 08:39 GMT
#2669
On March 29 2011 17:31 Tohrazer wrote: on the whole they are missing out some huge names to fit in some mediocre ones, if im honest its looking less interesting than GSL, and i was actually excited about it when it was announced :D Yea i was always skeptical about the selection process and i predicted that players like Machine Incontrol, Kawaiirice Sheth would be invited solely based on the fact that they are associated with people running the league, wich is ludicrous they could have made invites that no one could argue with (literally take the top 50 people with the best acheivments) and be done with it, but instead they chose to put in people with few or unimpressive acheivments and its going to hurt the league, the first season needs to be impressive so tha viewers will continue watching for the second third fourth season, among the community they are trying to target they didnt exactly choose the most impressive players (in this community people want to see the best, and to a certain extent the most popular) i would have no problem if they mixed the best with the most popular i just dont understand Machine Kawaii Sheth Vibe DDE Ensnare to name a few off the top of my head. | ||
Mise
Finland580 Posts
March 29 2011 08:45 GMT
#2670
On March 29 2011 17:34 cheesemaster wrote: [/b]Ensnare is Code SShow nested quote + On March 29 2011 17:17 LesPhoques wrote: On March 29 2011 17:01 SupastaR wrote: On March 29 2011 16:47 papaz wrote: On March 29 2011 14:06 ChrysaliS_ wrote: On March 29 2011 13:15 ghostnuke1234 wrote: To the owners of NASL: If Boxer, Nada, MC, and JulyZerg are not part of the last 5, I will not support NASL. I surely hope you are saving the best for last. Does anyone care what you think? If Minigun, Morrow, DeMuslim, and ThorZain are not part of the last 5, I will not support NASL. See how stupid it sounds? (not that I don't also want to see at least MC and Boxer) I agree that [bI will not support NASL] was a bit dramatic. But in all honestly if NASL wants to get off a good start, get viewers even from korea (which you want regardless of this tourney is for NA only, EU only, english speaking only or whatever) you need to have names that draws viewers. - BoxeR - You just can't deny the emperor a seat in this tourney. The PR value of having him in there is huge. - Nada - Read above - July - Read above - MC - 2 time GSL champion made an application, speaking english as well as he could. If the 2 time GSL champion, making an application, doesn't make it in then this tourney loses a lot of credibility. I don't care if MC's doesn't like Big Mac or drink Budweiser or doesn't show me what he does on his spare time or whatever way NASL wants us to "connect" with the players. 2 time GSL champion, considered to be the best player today, applying to NASL should of course without any doubt get in. I am CONVINCED the BoxeR, MC, July and Nada will get in. I was thinking the 5th to be Fruitdealer but now I'm not so sure. MorroW should get a seat also. it's an invitational, they don't want to oversaturate it with koreans, i guess you're not supporting tsl either because of no july? You just don't understand importance of players papaz mentioned. No fucking clue...Why the hell Rainbow was invited? What did he do to get invited? Nothing. Zenio? Nothing. Ensnare? Nothing. I really hope NASL will be a great tournament but so far, they have been disappointing in almost every aspect. Yes, I sound like a raging nerd of which I am not lol, but IMHO decisions made were rather questionable, like inviting ViBe, dde, etc over more popular players which will give more viewers. By not having DeMuslim (which is not 100% certain), we pretty much ignored UK's best player. Dimaga turned in his application late but I think it shouldn't have matter THAT much... Ignoring Eastern European and post-soviet countries here. Boxer,Nada,July (BW legends) will attract Korean viewers as well and having no-namers I stated above will hurt interest in Korea (Well, they might be invited anyways). Yea i dunno about ensnare, he even failed to qualify through the code a qualifiers this season =/ seems like they are taking lower end korean players , players that defently wouldnt increase viewership, rainbow is okay in my mind but zenio and ensnare are only okay, and leaving out top korean players in favor of these players boggles my mind, I totally dont get what these organizers are doing , they want to make money right? Then invite the best Mc July, and the most popular Nada Boxer, if that doesnt happen tommoro i dont know what to say. Im assuming tommoro will be Nada Boxer July Morrow, if not then =/ | ||
Ketch
Netherlands7285 Posts
March 29 2011 08:46 GMT
#2671
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Get.Midikem
Sweden312 Posts
March 29 2011 08:48 GMT
#2672
Nightend Morrow Thorzain Lalush - Applied to late Sase Fruitdealer Top July MC Nada Supernova Bomber Boxer Trickster Demuslim Bishu Optikzero Minigun Mondragon Merz LZGamer Inca Lyn Clide Cazanne Cella | ||
FarbrorAbavna
Sweden4856 Posts
March 29 2011 08:52 GMT
#2673
Most importantly though you dont know if your favorite plater actually applied in time, didnt apply, or just is too swamped and hence decided to wait untill the next season(with noteable exceptions being the ones mentioned in the box up top). So stop acting like you do. Also if youre late with your application then guess what, youre still in the real world and here being late doesnt always mean you actually still get a spot no matter how good you are. They're just gonna have to wait it out. Also the reasoning that the first season is gonna have to be the show of a lifetime and without the absolute top players it wont be anything near(cos otherwise why would you be so vocal about how it wont be?) is just bollocks. The lineup they have now is great, lots of talented players in there and some that have started to fallter but could easily pull off an upset. The GSL is a perfect example of how something can start out real good but only keep getting better and better and thus more popular and bigger and why the NASL is excempt from this I really wonder why anyone would think that way. | ||
UNeeK
United States237 Posts
March 29 2011 09:01 GMT
#2674
On March 29 2011 16:16 Valikyr wrote: Show nested quote + On March 29 2011 16:08 Gatsbi wrote: On March 29 2011 15:59 UNeeK wrote: On March 29 2011 13:01 xaneda wrote: On March 29 2011 12:56 WGarrison wrote: On March 29 2011 12:47 UNeeK wrote: On March 29 2011 12:31 WGarrison wrote: On March 29 2011 12:25 xaneda wrote: so why is incontrol in the league anyway? Thought it was about 1. results 2. results 3. results? incontrol doesnt have any. guess he added himself in ![]() Just like he added himself into top 16 seeding in MLG. Oh wait, he earned that! there also aren't koreans in the MLG.... By your logic every tournament that doesn't have koreans in it is worthless. Koreans are good, but they aren't the end all be all of starcraft 2. MLG is extremely competative and a perfectly good meterstick for results. No that is not what he means, grats putting words in his mouth though. Obviously since there werent koreans in MLG when incontrol competed diminishes the value of this "accomplishment" of barely coming top16 since it was a lot less competitive than it could have been - NASL will have koreans and some of the greatest players from all over the world making it even harder. Glad I could help. thank you, he indeed did put words in my mouth.. but you clarified EXACTLY what i was saying to a tee... Regardless, I'm not one of those people saying "omg i dont support nasl, wtf" I just do think it's a little odd we see iNc in this list but not some of the absolute best players in the world (who did apply) and while there may be 5 spots left, there are way more than 5 players who won't get invited that have achieved much greater.. if you goto the applications page almost all of oGs is still not in. HuK confirmed on stream today that supernova isn't getting in for sure.. so someone who can goto the Code A Finals doesn't deserve a spot over incontrol, who has done what?... that's all i am saying. It's without a doubt bias decision making. Regardless, I am sure NASL will turn out to be quite a success regardless. Just not quite as great as it could have been. If NASL wanted to give the impression that this was the worlds absolute best competing for a large prize pool, they've already failed. If i remember correctly, their hype video even stated "the greatest players the world has ever seen", cmon now, really?.... no. See, that's what I have the biggest issue with. It really boggles my mind how having incontrol in the tourney vs. supernova is even fair :/ Because skill isn't the only factor and they've been clear about this. Not only is InControl one of the founders of the league he also is a very big name. That's why he's in it and similar reasons for Grubby and Artosis. Because they're famous. so why does NASL's video on their homepage announcing the league state "the greatest players the world has ever seen" if this is CLEARLY not the case. | ||
SasukeStreams
Netherlands174 Posts
March 29 2011 09:03 GMT
#2675
I know this is called the 'North American Starleague' but please, don't say you aim to have the very best players for your league and then show up with this. The NASL is disqualifying itself as a top tier tournament by publishing this list of players.I can't help but think that a lot of these invites had much more to do with people lobbying themselves or their friends in rather then having their actual applications and skill levels judged. I also find it highly unprofessional that an admin and founder of the league is also a participant. Don't get me wrong, these players are all certainly skilled, and could probably show us some exciting games, but that's not what the NASL promised us. Sure, when something is hyped so much there is bound to be some dissapointment, but being the naive fool I am I always trust more in the honesty of people then in my own skepticism. When people say they will deliver I expect them to be able to. It saddens me to see the eSport scene (with a few exceptions ofcourse) is still as unprofessional as it gets. The only thing that impresses me is the prize money. | ||
jaiiiii
United States72 Posts
March 29 2011 09:10 GMT
#2676
On March 29 2011 17:29 cheesemaster wrote: Show nested quote + On March 29 2011 17:07 jaiiiii wrote: so havent been following the release too closely, but i'm guessing the 5 players tomorrow will be separated between divisions 1-5? Saving any comments about koreans being included/excluded until after they announce the players, so I don't end up eating my own words. Although I'm not the biggest fan of how they decided invites for this season, I suppose all in all it has turned out reasonably well. Hopefully future seasons will have a better way of deciding who gets in and who gets out. NASL application videos are fun and all, but it should be a more sustainable and reliable method in the long run. Future players in the tournament will be decided throught the 2 open tournaments, there will be no more invites after the first season, the bottom 16 of season 1 drop out and are replaced by 8 players from each of the 1024 man tournaments. ahh, thanks. I suppose thats a decent plan then. Allows NASL to build a core group of viewers and then from then on start getting the best in through the tournaments. Who's to say that the best players now will be the best players 1 season from now? Sure the first season might bring up some controversy (as we can clearly see) but as long as its planned out like this, I see no issue with this method. | ||
sCuMBaG
United Kingdom1144 Posts
March 29 2011 09:17 GMT
#2677
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Vorenius
Denmark1979 Posts
March 29 2011 09:22 GMT
#2678
On March 29 2011 18:17 sCuMBaG wrote: no Mondragon?! that kinda sucks, I wanna see more of his SC2 After his games in TSL I'm sure everyone wants to. But the invites were given out before those games, and for all NASL knew Mondragon wasn't practising at all and would have been rolled by Zeerax. :/ | ||
MattyClutch
United States711 Posts
March 29 2011 09:36 GMT
#2679
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cruncherISaFAGGOT
Haiti2 Posts
March 29 2011 09:43 GMT
#2680
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