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Players such as Jinro, HuK, and Adelscott did not apply for this tour, so don't ask why they aren't on this list. DIMAGA, Kas, and LaLush turned applications in late so they will not appear either. Please take some time to learn who exactly applied.

Please inform yourself about who applied and who didn't.
Sandermatt
Profile Joined December 2010
Switzerland1365 Posts
March 29 2011 09:58 GMT
#2681
No only 45 so far at least as I see. I also agree on previous posters that I hope the last 5 are Morrow Julyzerg, MC, Boxer and Nada,
BlueFlames
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1756 Posts
March 29 2011 10:32 GMT
#2682
On March 29 2011 18:43 cruncherISaFAGGOT wrote:
hey guys i bet they are saving the best players for last

oh wait a second its full


Wow your name is so classy. I hope someone with a hammer sees that.

The player lineup looks good. And i think they are inviting koreans that know how important this league could be for them. A MC knows how popular he is outside of korea and how popular he could become. Some of the korean pros dont even care enough to prepare for a huge event like TSL. So why should they be invited. I was a huge fan of nestea and mvp, but after their display of ignorance at TSL i will root for players that actually care about more than just their little world and think they can do the rest halfassed.

just my 2 cents
Ragoo
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany2773 Posts
March 29 2011 10:42 GMT
#2683
For the last 5 invites I hope Morrow, Demuslim and 3 good Koreans will make it in.

For the next season I hope we will see players like Kas, Dimaga, Tarson,Jinro, Huk, Adelscott and Thorzain qualify.
Member of TPW mapmaking team/// twitter.com/Ragoo_ /// "goody represents border between explainable reason and supernatural" Cloud
pezit
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden302 Posts
March 29 2011 10:44 GMT
#2684
Would have liked to see SuperNova or TOP instead of ensnare, they're both the same race same clan and better players.
Titorelli
Profile Joined March 2011
2492 Posts
March 29 2011 11:02 GMT
#2685
On March 29 2011 12:25 xaneda wrote:
so why is incontrol in the league anyway? Thought it was about 1. results 2. results 3. results? incontrol doesnt have any. guess he added himself in

Haha, exactly my thoughts. I am really curious about the explanations for the invites. But I think they will be all wishy-washy like "incontrol is popular" - is he?
"Everybody poops.... after Tasteless kills them" Artosis
Simmtron
Profile Joined October 2010
United States47 Posts
March 29 2011 11:30 GMT
#2686
On March 29 2011 19:32 BlueFlames wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2011 18:43 cruncherISaFAGGOT wrote:
hey guys i bet they are saving the best players for last

oh wait a second its full


Wow your name is so classy. I hope someone with a hammer sees that.

The player lineup looks good. And i think they are inviting koreans that know how important this league could be for them. A MC knows how popular he is outside of korea and how popular he could become. Some of the korean pros dont even care enough to prepare for a huge event like TSL. So why should they be invited. I was a huge fan of nestea and mvp, but after their display of ignorance at TSL i will root for players that actually care about more than just their little world and think they can do the rest halfassed.

just my 2 cents


How did Nestea and MVP display ignorance. By losing? Now, I'm not too sure about the latency issue, so I won't comment on that, but they had little to no information on their opponents. Goody is a very good mech Terran and Adelscott played pretty damn well. I'm sure Nestea wasn't used to Goody's style, and he had no one to practice against since complete mech Terrans are very rare. TvP is MVP's worst match up, and although PvT is Adelscott's worst match up, he played really well that day which shows that he was able to really study MVP's style and prepare builds that were tailored against him. It's easy to get VODs and replays of MVP and Nestea, but not as easy to get VODS and replays of Goody and Adelscott. By saying that Nestea and MVP were being ignorant, you're just downplaying their opponents skill.
GizmoPT
Profile Joined May 2010
Portugal3040 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-29 11:45:43
March 29 2011 11:45 GMT
#2687
Hope Dimaga is getting in NASL or ill be really really sad... dont care if he was late
Snipers Promod & Micro Arena Creator in SC2 Arcade - Portuguese Community Admin for SC2, HotS and Overwatch - Ex-Portugal SC2 Team Manager, Ex- Copenhagen Wolves and Grow uP Gaming Manager in SC2. Just Playing games now!
Doraemon.doraemon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States335 Posts
March 29 2011 11:50 GMT
#2688
we want dimaga!!!
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
March 29 2011 11:51 GMT
#2689
On March 29 2011 20:50 Doraemon.doraemon wrote:
we want dimaga!!!

This.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-29 11:53:44
March 29 2011 11:52 GMT
#2690
On March 29 2011 20:30 Simmtron wrote:
Now, I'm not too sure about the latency issue, so I won't comment on that, but they had little to no information on their opponents. Goody is a very good mech Terran and Adelscott played pretty damn well. I'm sure Nestea wasn't used to Goody's style, and he had no one to practice against since complete mech Terrans are very rare.

I read that so often, but it seems to be nonsense to me. Goody plays basically every day in online tournaments which provide replays for download. NesTea could have downloaded literally hundreds of Goody replays without any effort. I bet he has watched at least some, anything else would have been very strange.
At the same time Goody could not get replays from NesTea, just a few VODs.

Same is true for most other foreigner vs Korean matches.
Off-season = best season
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-29 11:56:54
March 29 2011 11:56 GMT
#2691
On March 29 2011 20:30 Simmtron wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2011 19:32 BlueFlames wrote:
On March 29 2011 18:43 cruncherISaFAGGOT wrote:
hey guys i bet they are saving the best players for last

oh wait a second its full


Wow your name is so classy. I hope someone with a hammer sees that.

The player lineup looks good. And i think they are inviting koreans that know how important this league could be for them. A MC knows how popular he is outside of korea and how popular he could become. Some of the korean pros dont even care enough to prepare for a huge event like TSL. So why should they be invited. I was a huge fan of nestea and mvp, but after their display of ignorance at TSL i will root for players that actually care about more than just their little world and think they can do the rest halfassed.

just my 2 cents


How did Nestea and MVP display ignorance. By losing? Now, I'm not too sure about the latency issue, so I won't comment on that, but they had little to no information on their opponents. Goody is a very good mech Terran and Adelscott played pretty damn well. I'm sure Nestea wasn't used to Goody's style, and he had no one to practice against since complete mech Terrans are very rare. TvP is MVP's worst match up, and although PvT is Adelscott's worst match up, he played really well that day which shows that he was able to really study MVP's style and prepare builds that were tailored against him. It's easy to get VODs and replays of MVP and Nestea, but not as easy to get VODS and replays of Goody and Adelscott. By saying that Nestea and MVP were being ignorant, you're just downplaying their opponents skill.


Being absolutely serious here: are sites like sc2rep.com banned in Korea? If that is not the case, how would it be ANY hard to get replays of Goode&Adel?

Check out the pre game interviews, MVP said he was about to tailor some builds against Adel, but from what I have seen, he played pretty standardly in those games. NesTea said he was worried because Goody's style might alter from Korean Terrans, but that he was still confident to win. I am not completely sure if I am mistaken here, but I think, with equal preperation, both MVP and NesTea should have rolled over their opponents, regardless of lag (which, according to Jinro, is not as bad as some people are trying to make it look like here.)
currently rooting for myself.
Titorelli
Profile Joined March 2011
2492 Posts
March 29 2011 12:00 GMT
#2692
On March 29 2011 20:51 Bagi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2011 20:50 Doraemon.doraemon wrote:
we want dimaga!!!

This.


I'm afraid that's pointless. The spots are already reserved for such awesome players like Dde, Vibe, Axlav, Incontrol aka Dimaga's app was too late [/sarcasm]
"Everybody poops.... after Tasteless kills them" Artosis
Jimmy Raynor
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
902 Posts
March 29 2011 12:23 GMT
#2693
I know a lot of people will want Dimaga in since the world vs korea matches but he really deserved his spot long time ago. He is one of the few foreign zergs that are top top level along with Idra and Sen, and it wouldn't make sense for him not to be in the league.
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
March 29 2011 12:32 GMT
#2694
So sad Dimaga is not in but I guess he can only blame himself for that. Still sad though
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
Nuri
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand280 Posts
March 29 2011 12:33 GMT
#2695
Cant believe you guys wont include Dimaga makes me so fucking mad. Im not even impressed with the list wont be watching NASL
The biggest risk in life is not taking any risks at all
Valikyr
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2653 Posts
March 29 2011 12:33 GMT
#2696
On March 29 2011 18:01 UNeeK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2011 16:16 Valikyr wrote:
On March 29 2011 16:08 Gatsbi wrote:
On March 29 2011 15:59 UNeeK wrote:
On March 29 2011 13:01 xaneda wrote:
On March 29 2011 12:56 WGarrison wrote:
On March 29 2011 12:47 UNeeK wrote:
On March 29 2011 12:31 WGarrison wrote:
On March 29 2011 12:25 xaneda wrote:
so why is incontrol in the league anyway? Thought it was about 1. results 2. results 3. results? incontrol doesnt have any. guess he added himself in


Just like he added himself into top 16 seeding in MLG. Oh wait, he earned that!



there also aren't koreans in the MLG....


By your logic every tournament that doesn't have koreans in it is worthless. Koreans are good, but they aren't the end all be all of starcraft 2. MLG is extremely competative and a perfectly good meterstick for results.

No that is not what he means, grats putting words in his mouth though. Obviously since there werent koreans in MLG when incontrol competed diminishes the value of this "accomplishment" of barely coming top16 since it was a lot less competitive than it could have been - NASL will have koreans and some of the greatest players from all over the world making it even harder. Glad I could help.



thank you, he indeed did put words in my mouth.. but you clarified EXACTLY what i was saying to a tee...


Regardless, I'm not one of those people saying "omg i dont support nasl, wtf" I just do think it's a little odd we see iNc in this list but not some of the absolute best players in the world (who did apply) and while there may be 5 spots left, there are way more than 5 players who won't get invited that have achieved much greater.. if you goto the applications page almost all of oGs is still not in.

HuK confirmed on stream today that supernova isn't getting in for sure.. so someone who can goto the Code A Finals doesn't deserve a spot over incontrol, who has done what?...
that's all i am saying. It's without a doubt bias decision making. Regardless, I am sure NASL will turn out to be quite a success regardless. Just not quite as great as it could have been. If NASL wanted to give the impression that this was the worlds absolute best competing for a large prize pool, they've already failed. If i remember correctly, their hype video even stated "the greatest players the world has ever seen", cmon now, really?.... no.


See, that's what I have the biggest issue with. It really boggles my mind how having incontrol in the tourney vs. supernova is even fair :/

Because skill isn't the only factor and they've been clear about this. Not only is InControl one of the founders of the league he also is a very big name. That's why he's in it and similar reasons for Grubby and Artosis. Because they're famous.


so why does NASL's video on their homepage announcing the league state "the greatest players the world has ever seen" if this is CLEARLY not the case.


Well I don't know and I didn't say that I agree with they decisions. It's stupid not having people like Demuslim, Morrow, Thorzain, Nightend in the league. People who really deserve their spots over people like Vibe or DDE.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
March 29 2011 12:35 GMT
#2697
On March 29 2011 21:33 Nuri wrote:
Cant believe you guys wont include Dimaga makes me so fucking mad. Im not even impressed with the list wont be watching NASL

i must agree that the current NASL list is not the best the world has to offer, but well...
Dartego
Profile Joined January 2011
154 Posts
March 29 2011 12:38 GMT
#2698
DIMAGA DIMAGA DIMAGA!
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
March 29 2011 12:41 GMT
#2699
I, for one, am humbly grateful that a tournament like this is even being put on in NA, because I had long since resigned myself that high-level StarCraft would be something permanently relegated to Korea. Now, with the NASL, this side of the world has a chance to show that we are also an enthusiastic, supportive community that will help the growth of e-sports become sustainable over the long term.

But no, we get an awesome Starleague in NA, and now all of you want to whine about who is in it. Some want it to be GSL West, some want it to be only foreigners, and yet many more complain that their favorite player was not invited. They ask, "Why can't my favorite, who didn't even apply (on time) get in? He's SO GOOD." When told that the rules are being stood by instead of changed on the community's (often bandwagon-minded) opinion, they scream and shout, "BUT THAT'S NOT FAIR, HE IS TOO GOOD TO BE LEFT OUT OF THE NASL!!!!1111"

They forget about the Open Tournament. They forget that there are more chances than these initial 50 invites to be in the NASL. Let your favorite PROVE he's that good by getting into the NASL by his hard work and dedication through a long tournament, instead of by the invites you already ridicule as being marred by favoritism and injustice. Oh champions of these snubbed players, let not your immediate disgust ruin your perspective on the West's great chance at a lasting Starleague!

We must prevail... AS ONE.
Writer@WriterYamato
Frankon
Profile Joined May 2010
3054 Posts
March 29 2011 12:42 GMT
#2700
DIMAGA for 51st NASL spot ^^.

Xeris make it happen.
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