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Players such as Jinro, HuK, and Adelscott did not apply for this tour, so don't ask why they aren't on this list. DIMAGA, Kas, and LaLush turned applications in late so they will not appear either. Please take some time to learn who exactly applied.

Please inform yourself about who applied and who didn't.
SichuanPanda
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada1542 Posts
March 29 2011 05:04 GMT
#2621
Well with the list filled out almost completely, you definitely can't argue with the international spread the tournament has. All major gaming regions are represented by at least one, if not three or four players. I still hope the last five will be mostly Korean however, as no one can argue they are the top region in skill - not to say the other regions can't take games off them (and the skill gap seems to be slowly closing).
i-bonjwa
ChrysaliS_
Profile Joined January 2011
United States261 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-29 05:07:00
March 29 2011 05:06 GMT
#2622
On March 29 2011 13:15 ghostnuke1234 wrote:
To the owners of NASL:

If Boxer, Nada, MC, and JulyZerg are not part of the last 5, I will not support NASL.

I surely hope you are saving the best for last.


Does anyone care what you think?

If Minigun, Morrow, DeMuslim, and ThorZain are not part of the last 5, I will not support NASL.

See how stupid it sounds?

(not that I don't also want to see at least MC and Boxer)
Chrysalis.145
Hoban
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1600 Posts
March 29 2011 05:08 GMT
#2623
On March 29 2011 13:15 ghostnuke1234 wrote:
To the owners of NASL:

If Boxer, Nada, MC, and JulyZerg are not part of the last 5, I will not support NASL.

I surely hope you are saving the best for last.



I really feel like this is saying, "If MorroW, Kas, Sen, GoOdy, and qxc aren't in the GSL, I won't support it!!". Look, the NASL is aiming to put a lot of money into North American Starcraft 2. I can completely understand if you would rather watch the GSL because it has all the Koreans you want. Personally, I think the skill gap between Korea and The World is quite small (here's to hoping Korea vs World proves me right tonight). But to say you don't support something that is really putting tons of money into the NA SC2 scene and doing its best to spurn interest in the game you love by providing free-to-watch matches at a high level 5 days a week? That just seems so cold to me. I am sorry I am not trying to single you out, it just seems like everyone who is completely denouncing the NASL is just being cold to those who are trying to spread the word. Sure, this season may not contain the likes of MC, BoxeR, or July but look at the first GSL. It is tough to make the comparison (not many players were known back then) but it was still extremely exciting and it didn't have MC, BoxeR, NaDa, or July. My advice is this, just give it a couple seasons to let the good rise up and the bad fall out, and give some support to the people who are trying to make SC2 eSports a better place!
"I am a leaf on the wind."
hiyo_bye
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States737 Posts
March 29 2011 05:12 GMT
#2624
Hopefully a few players I like such as Masterasia or Minigun make it, but with all this talent and so many good players left, it might be a stretch. Happy that ViBe made it; good player that's not very well known. Congrats to Artosis too!
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Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
March 29 2011 05:42 GMT
#2625
On March 29 2011 12:47 UNeeK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2011 12:31 WGarrison wrote:
On March 29 2011 12:25 xaneda wrote:
so why is incontrol in the league anyway? Thought it was about 1. results 2. results 3. results? incontrol doesnt have any. guess he added himself in


Just like he added himself into top 16 seeding in MLG. Oh wait, he earned that!



there also aren't koreans in the MLG....


There also weren't 50 spots available....
bennyaus
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia1833 Posts
March 29 2011 06:15 GMT
#2626
Yo guys, all the players who missed out can still go into the open tournament and possibly make it into the offline portion anyway....

...and to those guys saying Koreans aren't in MLG, that is by choice as MLG is not an invitational, and they are still welcome to participate like they can in NASL, in the open portion of the tournament.
I play Random - HuK, DRG + Liquid fan
NukemDukem
Profile Joined April 2010
United States133 Posts
March 29 2011 06:23 GMT
#2627
Wheres MC BOXER?
Always strive for last place. its in the Bible. The last show be first
bLuR
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada625 Posts
March 29 2011 06:27 GMT
#2628
poor incontrol

i hope boxers here tomorrow <333
don_kyuhote
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
3007 Posts
March 29 2011 06:29 GMT
#2629
Hmmm.
First they put Tyler in Idra's group.
Now Zenio too?
NASL is trying way too hard to create drama.
For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
March 29 2011 06:45 GMT
#2630
if they are trying to balance it racially
there is no way for them to add morrow/july/mondragon all 3
this makes me a sad panda

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Seronei
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden991 Posts
March 29 2011 06:54 GMT
#2631
Morrow has to be in it, can't imagine them not inviting him.
UNeeK
Profile Joined January 2011
United States237 Posts
March 29 2011 06:59 GMT
#2632
On March 29 2011 13:01 xaneda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2011 12:56 WGarrison wrote:
On March 29 2011 12:47 UNeeK wrote:
On March 29 2011 12:31 WGarrison wrote:
On March 29 2011 12:25 xaneda wrote:
so why is incontrol in the league anyway? Thought it was about 1. results 2. results 3. results? incontrol doesnt have any. guess he added himself in


Just like he added himself into top 16 seeding in MLG. Oh wait, he earned that!



there also aren't koreans in the MLG....


By your logic every tournament that doesn't have koreans in it is worthless. Koreans are good, but they aren't the end all be all of starcraft 2. MLG is extremely competative and a perfectly good meterstick for results.

No that is not what he means, grats putting words in his mouth though. Obviously since there werent koreans in MLG when incontrol competed diminishes the value of this "accomplishment" of barely coming top16 since it was a lot less competitive than it could have been - NASL will have koreans and some of the greatest players from all over the world making it even harder. Glad I could help.



thank you, he indeed did put words in my mouth.. but you clarified EXACTLY what i was saying to a tee...


Regardless, I'm not one of those people saying "omg i dont support nasl, wtf" I just do think it's a little odd we see iNc in this list but not some of the absolute best players in the world (who did apply) and while there may be 5 spots left, there are way more than 5 players who won't get invited that have achieved much greater.. if you goto the applications page almost all of oGs is still not in.

HuK confirmed on stream today that supernova isn't getting in for sure.. so someone who can goto the Code A Finals doesn't deserve a spot over incontrol, who has done what?... that's all i am saying. It's without a doubt bias decision making. Regardless, I am sure NASL will turn out to be quite a success regardless. Just not quite as great as it could have been. If NASL wanted to give the impression that this was the worlds absolute best competing for a large prize pool, they've already failed. If i remember correctly, their hype video even stated "the greatest players the world has ever seen", cmon now, really?.... no.
cheesemaster
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1975 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-29 07:11:38
March 29 2011 07:01 GMT
#2633
Wow if boxer and Nada MC Morrow arent in it tommoro im gonna be choked. How can they justify inviting artosis grubby (obviously a popularity thing) and then not invite BOXER! or nada even, that would be ridiculous and i dont think i would be too happy to support the NASL if this happens to be the way they make decisions either way seems like some people will be left out no way to invite Kas July , MC, Morrow, Nada, Boxer. thats one too many meaning one of those people will be for sure left out and im sure more will be left out that im not thinking of, obviously some will be left out, but not inviting boxer would be madness after seeing the players they have invited (some are defenetly based on popularity not acheivments) and boxers acheivments are extensive , even in sc2 he made it to the round of 4 in gsl season 2.

Edit:Ugh and incontrol why is he even in this , his ladder ranking has dropped 100 ranks since he announced the NASL clearly he doesnt have as much time to practice anymore and hes gonna be super busy anyways, you cant have your cake and eat it too. lol
Slayers_MMA The terran who beats terrans
cheesemaster
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1975 Posts
March 29 2011 07:06 GMT
#2634
On March 29 2011 15:59 UNeeK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2011 13:01 xaneda wrote:
On March 29 2011 12:56 WGarrison wrote:
On March 29 2011 12:47 UNeeK wrote:
On March 29 2011 12:31 WGarrison wrote:
On March 29 2011 12:25 xaneda wrote:
so why is incontrol in the league anyway? Thought it was about 1. results 2. results 3. results? incontrol doesnt have any. guess he added himself in


Just like he added himself into top 16 seeding in MLG. Oh wait, he earned that!



there also aren't koreans in the MLG....


By your logic every tournament that doesn't have koreans in it is worthless. Koreans are good, but they aren't the end all be all of starcraft 2. MLG is extremely competative and a perfectly good meterstick for results.

No that is not what he means, grats putting words in his mouth though. Obviously since there werent koreans in MLG when incontrol competed diminishes the value of this "accomplishment" of barely coming top16 since it was a lot less competitive than it could have been - NASL will have koreans and some of the greatest players from all over the world making it even harder. Glad I could help.



thank you, he indeed did put words in my mouth.. but you clarified EXACTLY what i was saying to a tee...


Regardless, I'm not one of those people saying "omg i dont support nasl, wtf" I just do think it's a little odd we see iNc in this list but not some of the absolute best players in the world (who did apply) and while there may be 5 spots left, there are way more than 5 players who won't get invited that have achieved much greater.. if you goto the applications page almost all of oGs is still not in.

HuK confirmed on stream today that supernova isn't getting in for sure.. so someone who can goto the Code A Finals doesn't deserve a spot over incontrol, who has done what?... that's all i am saying. It's without a doubt bias decision making. Regardless, I am sure NASL will turn out to be quite a success regardless. Just not quite as great as it could have been. If NASL wanted to give the impression that this was the worlds absolute best competing for a large prize pool, they've already failed. If i remember correctly, their hype video even stated "the greatest players the world has ever seen", cmon now, really?.... no.

Yea ive been complaining about incontrol getting invited since they announced the league cuz i knew for sure they were going to invite him, he has 0 impressive acheivments and it is obviously a biased decision i feel like machine got a free pass as well no real acheivments yet he got invited because hes on eg and is associated with the people running the tournament.
They promised they would be objective with the invites =/
Slayers_MMA The terran who beats terrans
Valikyr
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2653 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-29 07:09:03
March 29 2011 07:07 GMT
#2635
Some great names for sure and I won't complain if some names I want in won't get in because I know the choices must've been so hard.

I do think that you should give the community an explanation though if top players like DeMusliM, MorroW and ThorZain doesn't get in but some noname scrubs like dde and Vibe does. I mean foreign top players.
Gatsbi
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1134 Posts
March 29 2011 07:08 GMT
#2636
On March 29 2011 15:59 UNeeK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2011 13:01 xaneda wrote:
On March 29 2011 12:56 WGarrison wrote:
On March 29 2011 12:47 UNeeK wrote:
On March 29 2011 12:31 WGarrison wrote:
On March 29 2011 12:25 xaneda wrote:
so why is incontrol in the league anyway? Thought it was about 1. results 2. results 3. results? incontrol doesnt have any. guess he added himself in


Just like he added himself into top 16 seeding in MLG. Oh wait, he earned that!



there also aren't koreans in the MLG....


By your logic every tournament that doesn't have koreans in it is worthless. Koreans are good, but they aren't the end all be all of starcraft 2. MLG is extremely competative and a perfectly good meterstick for results.

No that is not what he means, grats putting words in his mouth though. Obviously since there werent koreans in MLG when incontrol competed diminishes the value of this "accomplishment" of barely coming top16 since it was a lot less competitive than it could have been - NASL will have koreans and some of the greatest players from all over the world making it even harder. Glad I could help.



thank you, he indeed did put words in my mouth.. but you clarified EXACTLY what i was saying to a tee...


Regardless, I'm not one of those people saying "omg i dont support nasl, wtf" I just do think it's a little odd we see iNc in this list but not some of the absolute best players in the world (who did apply) and while there may be 5 spots left, there are way more than 5 players who won't get invited that have achieved much greater.. if you goto the applications page almost all of oGs is still not in.

HuK confirmed on stream today that supernova isn't getting in for sure.. so someone who can goto the Code A Finals doesn't deserve a spot over incontrol, who has done what?...
that's all i am saying. It's without a doubt bias decision making. Regardless, I am sure NASL will turn out to be quite a success regardless. Just not quite as great as it could have been. If NASL wanted to give the impression that this was the worlds absolute best competing for a large prize pool, they've already failed. If i remember correctly, their hype video even stated "the greatest players the world has ever seen", cmon now, really?.... no.


See, that's what I have the biggest issue with. It really boggles my mind how having incontrol in the tourney vs. supernova is even fair :/
"IF WHAT YOU DO NOT KNOW IS MORE THAN WHAT YOU HAVE KNOWN. THEN YOU HAVE NOT KNOWN ANYTHINIG YET." - Rev Kojo Smith
Zarjax
Profile Joined September 2010
United States44 Posts
March 29 2011 07:12 GMT
#2637
Some of you koreaboos are just ridiculous. You act like any tournament without all the "top" koreans is just another tournament for nobodies and isn't going to be any good.

You keep on crying because you won't be able to see two of your precious GSL champions get man-handled by "no names" and then blame it on the lag again, and you won't get to see nada one base all-in and fail again. Would players like July and MC be able to bring quality games to NASL? You bet your ass they would. If they don't get invited is it a good reason to ignore the tournament all together? Hell no. These foreigners are starting to prove that they are just as good, if not better than a lot, as the koreans. If your favorite player doesn't get an invite, you can cheer them on in the open tournament and hope they get at least top 8 for the next season if they don't get that one spot.

People are bashing this tournament into the ground already before its even started, why don't you guys just sit back and enjoy the show because guaranteed there are going to be amazing games throughout this tournament whether or not ANY of the last invites are korean. I'm seriously tired of some of the borderline xenophobic thought processes of "If it ain't korean it ain't good". A lot of the "top" koreans got special invites to the TSL and now I'm willing to bet a good amount of money that it won't be a korean crowned the TSL3 champion, and I have a feeling it would be the same for the NASL.
cheesemaster
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1975 Posts
March 29 2011 07:14 GMT
#2638
Theres a few players where it boggles my mind that they would choose them over top koreans, i mean ill hold judgement for tommoro, but based on their decisions already it seems that some of the players they chose for the sole puprose of popularity (artosis grubby) but then if they turn around and dont invite Boxer MC, Nada i would be shocked and astonished, although morrow, Kas still left out i would be kind of choked if all the last invites werent top koreans, since we see no top koreans in the tournament yet (we see good ones but not the best of the best, and well boxer just because he is esports)
Slayers_MMA The terran who beats terrans
Valikyr
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2653 Posts
March 29 2011 07:16 GMT
#2639
On March 29 2011 16:08 Gatsbi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2011 15:59 UNeeK wrote:
On March 29 2011 13:01 xaneda wrote:
On March 29 2011 12:56 WGarrison wrote:
On March 29 2011 12:47 UNeeK wrote:
On March 29 2011 12:31 WGarrison wrote:
On March 29 2011 12:25 xaneda wrote:
so why is incontrol in the league anyway? Thought it was about 1. results 2. results 3. results? incontrol doesnt have any. guess he added himself in


Just like he added himself into top 16 seeding in MLG. Oh wait, he earned that!



there also aren't koreans in the MLG....


By your logic every tournament that doesn't have koreans in it is worthless. Koreans are good, but they aren't the end all be all of starcraft 2. MLG is extremely competative and a perfectly good meterstick for results.

No that is not what he means, grats putting words in his mouth though. Obviously since there werent koreans in MLG when incontrol competed diminishes the value of this "accomplishment" of barely coming top16 since it was a lot less competitive than it could have been - NASL will have koreans and some of the greatest players from all over the world making it even harder. Glad I could help.



thank you, he indeed did put words in my mouth.. but you clarified EXACTLY what i was saying to a tee...


Regardless, I'm not one of those people saying "omg i dont support nasl, wtf" I just do think it's a little odd we see iNc in this list but not some of the absolute best players in the world (who did apply) and while there may be 5 spots left, there are way more than 5 players who won't get invited that have achieved much greater.. if you goto the applications page almost all of oGs is still not in.

HuK confirmed on stream today that supernova isn't getting in for sure.. so someone who can goto the Code A Finals doesn't deserve a spot over incontrol, who has done what?...
that's all i am saying. It's without a doubt bias decision making. Regardless, I am sure NASL will turn out to be quite a success regardless. Just not quite as great as it could have been. If NASL wanted to give the impression that this was the worlds absolute best competing for a large prize pool, they've already failed. If i remember correctly, their hype video even stated "the greatest players the world has ever seen", cmon now, really?.... no.


See, that's what I have the biggest issue with. It really boggles my mind how having incontrol in the tourney vs. supernova is even fair :/

Because skill isn't the only factor and they've been clear about this. Not only is InControl one of the founders of the league he also is a very big name. That's why he's in it and similar reasons for Grubby and Artosis. Because they're famous.
cheesemaster
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1975 Posts
March 29 2011 07:20 GMT
#2640
On March 29 2011 16:12 Zarjax wrote:
Some of you koreaboos are just ridiculous. You act like any tournament without all the "top" koreans is just another tournament for nobodies and isn't going to be any good.

You keep on crying because you won't be able to see two of your precious GSL champions get man-handled by "no names" and then blame it on the lag again, and you won't get to see nada one base all-in and fail again. Would players like July and MC be able to bring quality games to NASL? You bet your ass they would. If they don't get invited is it a good reason to ignore the tournament all together? Hell no. These foreigners are starting to prove that they are just as good, if not better than a lot, as the koreans. If your favorite player doesn't get an invite, you can cheer them on in the open tournament and hope they get at least top 8 for the next season if they don't get that one spot.

People are bashing this tournament into the ground already before its even started, why don't you guys just sit back and enjoy the show because guaranteed there are going to be amazing games throughout this tournament whether or not ANY of the last invites are korean. I'm seriously tired of some of the borderline xenophobic thought processes of "If it ain't korean it ain't good". A lot of the "top" koreans got special invites to the TSL and now I'm willing to bet a good amount of money that it won't be a korean crowned the TSL3 champion, and I have a feeling it would be the same for the NASL.

Reserve your judgement until after the GSLWC tonight , and nada's one base all in was only because he lost that banshee TT1 had his base up way sooner and if nada tried to expand he just would have been way behind he was relying on that banshee to do some damage and when it didnt he went for an all in. Its best of 1's anyways wait until the real tournament best of 1's dont really prove much although team leagues are fun as hell to watch, i mean if TT1 beats 2 more people than obviously that is impressive in fact it already is impressive that he won 2 games, but honestly i think nada would beat him in a best of 3 but i guess well just have to wait and see what happens at the real tournament or at least to see who wins the team league tonight
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