EPTWas happy to see my coach do well. Winning the battle but not the war
[GCPL] ROOT vs EG - Page 10
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BetterFasterStronger
United States604 Posts
Was happy to see my coach do well. Winning the battle but not the war | ||
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kodas
United States418 Posts
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TazzDingo
Germany502 Posts
On February 06 2011 19:37 drewbie.root wrote: are u joking? shakuras is much more favorable than LT / steppes / DQ / jungle basin..... and we played early? How is Shakura's Horizontal Spawn any better than Jungle Basin? "The option to take a 3rd before dying" ? edit: not trying to take away any credit here. But recent games have shown how incredible hard / near impossible it is for a Zerg to defend a properly executed backdoor tankpush after setting up a Planetary. | ||
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TheCrow
Norway296 Posts
On February 06 2011 21:13 TazzDingo wrote: How is Shakura's Horizontal Spawn any better than Jungle Basin? "The option to take a 3rd before dying" ? edit: not trying to take away any credit here. But recent games have shown how incredible hard / near impossible it is for a Zerg to defend a properly executed backdoor tankpush after setting up a Planetary. Yeah, a lot of the problem with the "balanced" maps is the high chance of spawning in a terrible position for zerg. Take metal for example, its a balanced map on cross positions, but a horrible map if you get close positions. | ||
bkrow
Australia8532 Posts
On February 06 2011 21:13 TazzDingo wrote: How is Shakura's Horizontal Spawn any better than Jungle Basin? "The option to take a 3rd before dying" ? edit: not trying to take away any credit here. But recent games have shown how incredible hard / near impossible it is for a Zerg to defend a properly executed backdoor tankpush after setting up a Planetary. Those positions have been slightly Terran favoured recently (Jinro said it himself during his GSL interview) but IdrA managed to beat MvP in those positions.. | ||
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
On February 06 2011 19:37 drewbie.root wrote: are u joking? shakuras is much more favorable than LT / steppes / DQ / jungle basin..... and we played early? "early" was 3:40 am and shakuras close positions is just as bad or worse than those maps when terran abuses the backdoor path. and it was on american server. | ||
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isM
United States735 Posts
On February 06 2011 21:27 bkrow wrote: Those positions have been slightly Terran favoured recently (Jinro said it himself during his GSL interview) but IdrA managed to beat MvP in those positions.. MVP chose not to tank push through the bottom. | ||
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BrahCJ
Australia659 Posts
Also - I don't know if I can agree with IdrA's list of reasons (excuses, if you will). As far as I'm aware, the comp schedule was followed in his game, pushing backdoor (or any part of any map) isn't really "abusive" more so a tactical decision. Map-pool is for tourney admins to decide, and living in S.Korea and signing up for American comps, you surely realize that you will have to play out of your native server. | ||
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AxionSteel
United States7754 Posts
Good set of excuses though. Well played ROOT! | ||
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TheCrow
Norway296 Posts
On February 06 2011 21:31 IdrA wrote: "early" was 3:40 am and shakuras close positions is just as bad or worse than those maps when terran abuses the backdoor path. and it was on american server. Dont take the illusion away from him, he wants to believe he beat you in a fair game. Beating you in is one of the few accomplishments root has. | ||
Odoakar
Croatia1838 Posts
"I lost because it was middle of the night!" "I lost because the map I once claimed was the best map in the pool is now incredibly imbalanced for zerg!" "I lost because I had lag issues!" It's like some people are still on the level of an 8-year old. When Jinro lost to SelecT he said he had lag issues, but that in the end his opponent just played well. I think the world will end as soon as IdrA admits that he lost a game because his opponent played well. | ||
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krews
United States1308 Posts
On February 06 2011 22:28 TheCrow wrote: Dont take the illusion away from him, he wants to believe he beat you in a fair game. Beating you in is one of the few accomplishments root has. is 1v1 not a fair game now? cause he did beat him..there's even proof in a replay! | ||
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ROOTdrewbie
Canada1392 Posts
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cpu
102 Posts
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TheCrow
Norway296 Posts
On February 06 2011 22:42 drewbie.root wrote: No it's OK, it is pretty much impossible to play 100% when playing between NA and Korea, I recently got a Korean account, and you really can't micro at all. I do feel that I had an advantage the whole game, IdrA could have easily stopped my harass at the start ( the bunker is not hard to stop, just have a drone follow the scv, and I go 1 rax FE into blue flame pretty much every TvZ so IdrA should have expected it and prepared a bit better defense, even though it didn't really do a ton of damage ) but the map is pretty imbalanced and there is not much that Z can do in that situation. Hopefully next time we play, it will be on even grounds and we can have a better game. Wow, your sir are too manner  (In a good way). | ||
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BatCat
Austria630 Posts
On February 06 2011 22:42 drewbie.root wrote: No it's OK, it is pretty much impossible to play 100% when playing between NA and Korea, I recently got a Korean account, and you really can't micro at all. I do feel that I had an advantage the whole game, IdrA could have easily stopped my harass at the start ( the bunker is not hard to stop, just have a drone follow the scv, and I go 1 rax FE into blue flame pretty much every TvZ so IdrA should have expected it and prepared a bit better defense, even though it didn't really do a ton of damage ) but the map is pretty imbalanced and there is not much that Z can do in that situation. Hopefully next time we play, it will be on even grounds and we can have a better game. great sportsmanship! way to go drewbie! | ||
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dunc
Netherlands1105 Posts
On February 06 2011 20:32 hiyo_bye wrote: GJ ROOT, you guys are awesome. Only got to watch the first half of the idra drewbie game but my guess is that the early harass is what won drewbie the game. Was one of the factors but Drewbie outplayed IdrA throughout the whole game. On February 06 2011 22:28 TheCrow wrote: Dont take the illusion away from him, he wants to believe he beat you in a fair game. Beating you in is one of the few accomplishments root has. I honestly hope you get at least a warning for this. Insulting a whole team just because they played better than your favourite player, nice. | ||
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RyanRushia
United States2748 Posts
very exciting war over all goodjob both teams | ||
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TazzDingo
Germany502 Posts
On February 06 2011 22:33 Odoakar wrote: Oh, IdrA and his brainless worshipers... "I lost because it was middle of the night!" "I lost because the map I once claimed was the best map in the pool is now incredibly imbalanced for zerg!" "I lost because I had lag issues!" It's like some people are still on the level of an 8-year old. When Jinro lost to SelecT he said he had lag issues, but that in the end his opponent just played well. I think the world will end as soon as IdrA admits that he lost a game because his opponent played well. nice job calling other's brainless when you don't even understand the power of phrasing. What's the difference between: "It was very laggy" and "It was very laggy but my opponent played well nevertheless". Let me help you: Both are complaints. One is in disguise (aka "well mannered" *sigh*). (Calling other's immature after a post like that is btw the icing on the cake. ) | ||
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Velocity`
United Kingdom343 Posts
On February 06 2011 22:33 Odoakar wrote: Oh, IdrA and his brainless worshipers... "I lost because it was middle of the night!" "I lost because the map I once claimed was the best map in the pool is now incredibly imbalanced for zerg!" "I lost because I had lag issues!" It's like some people are still on the level of an 8-year old. When Jinro lost to SelecT he said he had lag issues, but that in the end his opponent just played well. I think the world will end as soon as IdrA admits that he lost a game because his opponent played well. Have you not been watching the recent TvZ's on Shakuras close positions in the GSL? All of the Terrans abuse that back-door push and as we've seen from both Nestea and Idra's games it's incredibly difficult to stop. Yeah Shakuras is a good map, but the fact that 'the best map in the pool' has this lame back-door push is just a sentiment to how bad the maps are in the current situation. I've got nothing against drewbie, but there's no way he can beat Idra given fair conditions. | ||
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