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SubtleArt
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
2710 Posts
February 06 2011 15:02 GMT
#201
On February 06 2011 22:33 Odoakar wrote:
Oh, IdrA and his brainless worshipers...

"I lost because it was middle of the night!" "I lost because the map I once claimed was the best map in the pool is now incredibly imbalanced for zerg!" "I lost because I had lag issues!"

It's like some people are still on the level of an 8-year old. When Jinro lost to SelecT he said he had lag issues, but that in the end his opponent just played well. I think the world will end as soon as IdrA admits that he lost a game because his opponent played well.



You've obviously never playing ZvT when Terran knows how to execute that kind of push. The only times I can remember beating it is when my opponent sucked and didnt realize I build a nydus along the path (usually under the mineral line of the expo), letting me get a surround. If Terran does what he's supposed to though, its ridiculously hard.
Morrow on ZvP: "I'm not very confident in general vs Protoss because of the imbalance (Yes its imbalanced, get over it)."
dunc
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands1105 Posts
February 06 2011 15:11 GMT
#202
On February 07 2011 00:00 Callous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2011 22:33 Odoakar wrote:
Oh, IdrA and his brainless worshipers...

"I lost because it was middle of the night!" "I lost because the map I once claimed was the best map in the pool is now incredibly imbalanced for zerg!" "I lost because I had lag issues!"

It's like some people are still on the level of an 8-year old. When Jinro lost to SelecT he said he had lag issues, but that in the end his opponent just played well. I think the world will end as soon as IdrA admits that he lost a game because his opponent played well.


Have you not been watching the recent TvZ's on Shakuras close positions in the GSL? All of the Terrans abuse that back-door push and as we've seen from both Nestea and Idra's games it's incredibly difficult to stop. Yeah Shakuras is a good map, but the fact that 'the best map in the pool' has this lame back-door push is just a sentiment to how bad the maps are in the current situation. I've got nothing against drewbie, but there's no way he can beat Idra given fair conditions.


Obviously, he can.
ratMortar
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada282 Posts
February 06 2011 15:37 GMT
#203
People are getting way too bent out of shape over his loss to Drewbie. While I don't think he's better than IdrA, it was smart of him to abuse the choke and push through it since it's pretty much impossible for IdrA to stop it.

The map has severe issues that Terran can exploit but you can't hold it against Drewbie.
BrahCJ
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia659 Posts
February 06 2011 23:36 GMT
#204
On February 07 2011 00:37 ratMortar wrote:
The map has severe issues that Terran can exploit but you can't hold it against Drewbie.



What the hell are these comments about "abuse" or "Exploiting" etc etc etc?

One could say that IdrA is exploiting the small cost of a hatchery, because its so so cheap, he can get it early. ABUSE!

Zerg is the most mobile race in the Game. With good creep spread down that hallway you can see it coming from a long way away. The narrowness of the corridor also means that marines can't micro very well away from banelings, which means they can only run one way, leaving tanks open.

I can't believe the amount of people crying foul. Its a situational game. In this situation the back corridor was used. It isn't a secret, IdrA knew it was a strong possibility, you can defend it.

Drewbie is too GM to someone that has been very BM to him in the past.. All the more power too you.
Play the games!
imbs
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom320 Posts
February 06 2011 23:58 GMT
#205
its actually a joke that drewbie can beat idra. the guys terrible in comparison. his micro is bad, letting marnies stand still and clumped up vs blings in that game for example. his macro is bad, or his build orders are just badly thought out. in both of the games ive watched him in recently hes had like 1000 gas 10 minutes into the game. not only that but hes stupid enough to all in with all his scvs vs a protoss *whilst he was building an expansion command center*
its pretty much proof that terran needs to be toned down especially with some of these pushes thru the rocks on scrap station and shakuras for example.




User was temp banned for this post.
ROOTdrewbie
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1392 Posts
February 07 2011 00:02 GMT
#206
On February 07 2011 08:58 imbs wrote:
its actually a joke that drewbie can beat idra. the guys terrible in comparison. his micro is bad, letting marnies stand still and clumped up vs blings in that game for example. his macro is bad, or his build orders are just badly thought out. in both of the games ive watched him in recently hes had like 1000 gas 10 minutes into the game. not only that but hes stupid enough to all in with all his scvs vs a protoss *whilst he was building an expansion command center*
its pretty much proof that terran needs to be toned down especially with some of these pushes thru the rocks on scrap station and shakuras for example.




LOL
maybe you should go pro then, since its so easy
www.root-gaming.com
imbs
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom320 Posts
February 07 2011 00:15 GMT
#207
sry m8 cant reply now - sending all my scvs with my attack n expandin at the same time atm
JIJI_
Profile Joined October 2010
United States123 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-07 00:39:25
February 07 2011 00:37 GMT
#208
I think if they were at tourney or on same server IdrA would have come out on top.

Yes, it is not Drewbie's fault that IdrA is in Korea, but there is probably a good amount of lag playing on NA server all the way in Korea so that has to be factored in.

Furthermore, I think in a BO5 or something IdrA would also fare better.

Not even the best can win every single game ;p

Edit: Just wanted to give Drewbie credit, his build was pretty well executed, and it seemed like he was determined to defeat IdrA in that.
All hail King IdrA!
Kyhol
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada2575 Posts
February 07 2011 00:41 GMT
#209
I got a good chuckle out of imbs, he sure knows his stuff.
Wishing you well.
walklightwhat
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia752 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-07 02:48:10
February 07 2011 00:56 GMT
#210
Such meaningless drama.

GJ and congratulations to ROOT. It was fun to watch.
vdale
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany1173 Posts
February 07 2011 00:57 GMT
#211
man, idra losing makes some nerds really mad.

A question: Do you chose which player plays on which map or is it random?
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
February 07 2011 01:04 GMT
#212
On February 07 2011 09:57 vdale wrote:
man, idra losing makes some nerds really mad.

A question: Do you chose which player plays on which map or is it random?


They choose the player for the map.

Shakuras is kind of 50% loss for zerg now just because of those close positions that idra/drewbie got very very hard to fight in those positions for zerg.

Was well played by drewbie he abused it well that guy who posted earlier on how drewbie is terrible lol such a troll post
When I think of something else, something will go here
GenoZStriker
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2914 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-07 01:05:10
February 07 2011 01:04 GMT
#213
Yes. You are given the maps and then you seed a player on that particular map. It's not like EG or ROOT decided an IdrA vs. Drewbie match, it was just a coincident they were both seeded on Shakuras. Anyways there is no need for anyone to blow this drama out of proportion. Shit happened, everyone moves on.
eSports Prodigy & Illuminati member.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
February 07 2011 01:21 GMT
#214
People are still trying to bash drewbie? That is pretty petty. Let it go already.
KiWiKaKi
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada691 Posts
February 07 2011 01:45 GMT
#215
you're pro or you're imbs , thats life
ur pro or ur noob , thats life
ilbh
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil1606 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-07 01:52:19
February 07 2011 01:52 GMT
#216
On February 07 2011 08:58 imbs wrote:
its actually a joke that drewbie can beat idra. the guys terrible in comparison. his micro is bad, letting marnies stand still and clumped up vs blings in that game for example. his macro is bad, or his build orders are just badly thought out. in both of the games ive watched him in recently hes had like 1000 gas 10 minutes into the game. not only that but hes stupid enough to all in with all his scvs vs a protoss *whilst he was building an expansion command center*
its pretty much proof that terran needs to be toned down especially with some of these pushes thru the rocks on scrap station and shakuras for example.




I wonder how drewbie beat idra and many other PROgamers with poor micro, macro and build orders badly thought out.

he also won against jinro... and jinro is also Terran... and jinro even used his build against MK...
there must be something wrong...
Part of the inhumanity of the computer is that, once it is competently programmed and working smoothly, it is completely honest.
Agh
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1110 Posts
February 07 2011 02:00 GMT
#217
On February 07 2011 08:58 imbs wrote:
its actually a joke that drewbie can beat idra. the guys terrible in comparison. his micro is bad, letting marnies stand still and clumped up vs blings in that game for example. his macro is bad, or his build orders are just badly thought out. in both of the games ive watched him in recently hes had like 1000 gas 10 minutes into the game. not only that but hes stupid enough to all in with all his scvs vs a protoss *whilst he was building an expansion command center*
its pretty much proof that terran needs to be toned down especially with some of these pushes thru the rocks on scrap station and shakuras for example.




if you're going to attempt to vent, do it on the game and not the player.


Also if you have such great game knowledge and mechanics per your critique, why aren't you winning tournaments (just switch to T obv amirite)


anyway I'm sure drewbie is far above where you'll be in 6 months or even a year for now.


<3 droobinator
I may appear to be an emotionless sarcastic pos, but just like an onion when you pull off more and more layers you find the exact same thing everytime and you start crying
ROOTdrewbie
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1392 Posts
February 07 2011 02:08 GMT
#218
<3 Agh, but you are mistaken.

Obviously once Blizzard balances zerg, imbs will be #2 player in the world behind idra
www.root-gaming.com
imbs
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom320 Posts
February 07 2011 02:13 GMT
#219
m8s u guys seem to be addressin the wrong points. i compared drewbie to idra not to myself. he has massive flaws in his play compared. hes obviously decent but hes not nearly as good as some of the people he beats.

that being said, im pretty sure i was too smart to make the same decision drewbie did where he sent all his scvs whilst expanding when i was born.
bLuR
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada625 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-07 02:15:26
February 07 2011 02:15 GMT
#220
On February 07 2011 08:58 imbs wrote:
its actually a joke that drewbie can beat idra. the guys terrible in comparison. his micro is bad, letting marnies stand still and clumped up vs blings in that game for example. his macro is bad, or his build orders are just badly thought out. in both of the games ive watched him in recently hes had like 1000 gas 10 minutes into the game. not only that but hes stupid enough to all in with all his scvs vs a protoss *whilst he was building an expansion command center*
its pretty much proof that terran needs to be toned down especially with some of these pushes thru the rocks on scrap station and shakuras for example.




This is the the most retarded post i've ever read on TL.

You're bad, drewbie is good. Get your fingers out of the cows butt before you type a post, everything you're saying is bullshit
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