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sniverty
Profile Joined October 2010
United States72 Posts
February 07 2011 02:45 GMT
#221
Seriously, what's with all the terran hate on teamliquid? I've seen retards like Imbs bash really good terrans for winning against Z and nothing's being done about it. The majority of TL members may be zerg players, but that shouldn't cause half the posts here to erupt into balance discussions with some zerg claiming "herpa derp terran can a-moves with stim and scv bumrush, noob race". Grow up, please.

FYI, I play zerg too, but apparently I don't have the wow-forum syndrome that plagues the trolls on TL.
Also, well played, Drewbie.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-07 03:00:29
February 07 2011 02:56 GMT
#222
No, IdrA has this following of fan boys, who are very prevalent and vocal, especially after he got some results. You just got to deal with it. There will always be shit disturbers no matter where you go.
imbs
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom320 Posts
February 07 2011 03:00 GMT
#223
On February 07 2011 11:45 sniverty wrote:
Seriously, what's with all the terran hate on teamliquid? I've seen retards like Imbs bash really good terrans for winning against Z and nothing's being done about it. The majority of TL members may be zerg players, but that shouldn't cause half the posts here to erupt into balance discussions with some zerg claiming "herpa derp terran can a-moves with stim and scv bumrush, noob race". Grow up, please.

FYI, I play zerg too, but apparently I don't have the wow-forum syndrome that plagues the trolls on TL.
Also, well played, Drewbie.


not only do you mimic me with insults, but you add herp derp parody, whining about whining and you also drop insignificant information in an attempt to gain credibility. is it fun to be such a massive hypocrit m8?

i dont even hate terran, i just think its stupid when certain players can beat other superior players soley because of abusive strats only their race can use. this is a fair point to bring up in a thread that talks about a game where it happened?
SiCkO_
Profile Joined September 2010
United States481 Posts
February 07 2011 03:27 GMT
#224
ugh

Very disappointing show by EG, especially the comments.

Congrats ROOT, you guys definitely played well out there
SKT Toss line Fighting! | Bisu, BeSt, By.Sun! |
sniverty
Profile Joined October 2010
United States72 Posts
February 07 2011 03:49 GMT
#225
On February 07 2011 12:00 imbs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2011 11:45 sniverty wrote:
Seriously, what's with all the terran hate on teamliquid? I've seen retards like Imbs bash really good terrans for winning against Z and nothing's being done about it. The majority of TL members may be zerg players, but that shouldn't cause half the posts here to erupt into balance discussions with some zerg claiming "herpa derp terran can a-moves with stim and scv bumrush, noob race". Grow up, please.

FYI, I play zerg too, but apparently I don't have the wow-forum syndrome that plagues the trolls on TL.
Also, well played, Drewbie.


not only do you mimic me with insults, but you add herp derp parody, whining about whining and you also drop insignificant information in an attempt to gain credibility. is it fun to be such a massive hypocrit m8?

i dont even hate terran, i just think its stupid when certain players can beat other superior players soley because of abusive strats only their race can use. this is a fair point to bring up in a thread that talks about a game where it happened?


Hurts when you're on the recieving end of an insult, doesn't it? Next time, think before posting dumb comments about someone else's skill/caliber whatever.
imbs
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom320 Posts
February 07 2011 03:56 GMT
#226
On February 07 2011 12:49 sniverty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2011 12:00 imbs wrote:
On February 07 2011 11:45 sniverty wrote:
Seriously, what's with all the terran hate on teamliquid? I've seen retards like Imbs bash really good terrans for winning against Z and nothing's being done about it. The majority of TL members may be zerg players, but that shouldn't cause half the posts here to erupt into balance discussions with some zerg claiming "herpa derp terran can a-moves with stim and scv bumrush, noob race". Grow up, please.

FYI, I play zerg too, but apparently I don't have the wow-forum syndrome that plagues the trolls on TL.
Also, well played, Drewbie.


not only do you mimic me with insults, but you add herp derp parody, whining about whining and you also drop insignificant information in an attempt to gain credibility. is it fun to be such a massive hypocrit m8?

i dont even hate terran, i just think its stupid when certain players can beat other superior players soley because of abusive strats only their race can use. this is a fair point to bring up in a thread that talks about a game where it happened?


Hurts when you're on the recieving end of an insult, doesn't it? Next time, think before posting dumb comments about someone else's skill/caliber whatever.

not rly. i was pointing out that you or whoever posted that is a hypocrite this is a random forum i really doubt that drewbie or anyone else for that matter rly cares that much when someone they dont know mocks them.
Liquid`Sheth
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States2095 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-07 04:08:06
February 07 2011 04:03 GMT
#227
50$ says imbs is a teenage girl simply to afraid to tell drew she loves him. I'm not ashamed of it and you shouldn't be either!!
Team LiquidUnderneath it all they were really quite nice. They just got screwed up. Mostly by stuff that wasn't entirely their fault.
ratMortar
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada282 Posts
February 07 2011 04:08 GMT
#228
On February 07 2011 08:36 BrahCJ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2011 00:37 ratMortar wrote:
The map has severe issues that Terran can exploit but you can't hold it against Drewbie.



What the hell are these comments about "abuse" or "Exploiting" etc etc etc?

One could say that IdrA is exploiting the small cost of a hatchery, because its so so cheap, he can get it early. ABUSE!

Zerg is the most mobile race in the Game. With good creep spread down that hallway you can see it coming from a long way away. The narrowness of the corridor also means that marines can't micro very well away from banelings, which means they can only run one way, leaving tanks open.

I can't believe the amount of people crying foul. Its a situational game. In this situation the back corridor was used. It isn't a secret, IdrA knew it was a strong possibility, you can defend it.

Drewbie is too GM to someone that has been very BM to him in the past.. All the more power too you.


Look up "exploit".

Drewbie positioned against a choke.
Zergs get raped at chokes.
Shakuras plateau has a very good choke right next to the main spawning points.
I wasn't being sarcastic when I said Drewbie did the smart thing but having a choke so close to the main is something Terrans CAN and probably WILL exploit.
BrahCJ
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia659 Posts
February 07 2011 08:27 GMT
#229
On February 07 2011 13:08 ratMortar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2011 08:36 BrahCJ wrote:
On February 07 2011 00:37 ratMortar wrote:
The map has severe issues that Terran can exploit but you can't hold it against Drewbie.



What the hell are these comments about "abuse" or "Exploiting" etc etc etc?

One could say that IdrA is exploiting the small cost of a hatchery, because its so so cheap, he can get it early. ABUSE!

Zerg is the most mobile race in the Game. With good creep spread down that hallway you can see it coming from a long way away. The narrowness of the corridor also means that marines can't micro very well away from banelings, which means they can only run one way, leaving tanks open.

I can't believe the amount of people crying foul. Its a situational game. In this situation the back corridor was used. It isn't a secret, IdrA knew it was a strong possibility, you can defend it.

Drewbie is too GM to someone that has been very BM to him in the past.. All the more power too you.

I wasn't being sarcastic when I said Drewbie did the smart thing but having a choke so close to the main is something Terrans CAN and probably WILL exploit.


So zerg should exploit their maneuverability and draw the army back by ding-dong-ditching some supply depots with their Mutas.
A good zerg (ie; IdrA) on their day can (and have to) deny terran from holding such presence on the map. There are many units they can exploit to do this. The pure pace and mass of Zerg needs to be exploited in order to control terran around the map

exploit exploit exploit. Every race, and every map has exploits. When does exploiting simply become "playing the game."

Play the games!
DND_Enkil
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden598 Posts
February 07 2011 12:40 GMT
#230
Why oh why do every EG vs "Some other team" turn into a shitstorm???

Great games, great tournament and then I log onto TL to read about it and its this steaming pile of crap as usual...

Drewbie beat IdrA in favorable positions and favorable latency but it was still a legit win.
"If you write about a sewing needle there is always some one-eyed bastard that gets offended" - Fritiof The Pirate Nilsson
TheCrow
Profile Joined January 2011
Norway296 Posts
February 07 2011 13:41 GMT
#231
On February 07 2011 21:40 DND_Enkil wrote:
Why oh why do every EG vs "Some other team" turn into a shitstorm???

Great games, great tournament and then I log onto TL to read about it and its this steaming pile of crap as usual...

Drewbie beat IdrA in favorable positions and favorable latency but it was still a legit win.


Its kind of hard to avoid the "shitstorm", e-sports is getting closer and closer to real sports and the discussions/fights/brawls between supporters have never been pretty in sports, we certainly aren't talking about calm discussions. The e-hooligans are here to stay, and in a way I don't really mind (though someone calling imba every game whoever wins is getting old), those terrans will never admit they are playing the ez-mode race anyways (joke)
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
February 07 2011 13:47 GMT
#232
Actually Crow it's always been this way even in BW. Players have the tendency to make excuses all the time. As for the whole EG versus everyone else spiel. I don't know, I guess we can call that the Idrama factor for now. It is what it is. Let's move on.
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-07 13:53:13
February 07 2011 13:52 GMT
#233
On February 07 2011 17:27 BrahCJ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2011 13:08 ratMortar wrote:
On February 07 2011 08:36 BrahCJ wrote:
On February 07 2011 00:37 ratMortar wrote:
The map has severe issues that Terran can exploit but you can't hold it against Drewbie.



What the hell are these comments about "abuse" or "Exploiting" etc etc etc?

One could say that IdrA is exploiting the small cost of a hatchery, because its so so cheap, he can get it early. ABUSE!

Zerg is the most mobile race in the Game. With good creep spread down that hallway you can see it coming from a long way away. The narrowness of the corridor also means that marines can't micro very well away from banelings, which means they can only run one way, leaving tanks open.

I can't believe the amount of people crying foul. Its a situational game. In this situation the back corridor was used. It isn't a secret, IdrA knew it was a strong possibility, you can defend it.

Drewbie is too GM to someone that has been very BM to him in the past.. All the more power too you.

I wasn't being sarcastic when I said Drewbie did the smart thing but having a choke so close to the main is something Terrans CAN and probably WILL exploit.


So zerg should exploit their maneuverability and draw the army back by ding-dong-ditching some supply depots with their Mutas.
A good zerg (ie; IdrA) on their day can (and have to) deny terran from holding such presence on the map. There are many units they can exploit to do this. The pure pace and mass of Zerg needs to be exploited in order to control terran around the map

exploit exploit exploit. Every race, and every map has exploits. When does exploiting simply become "playing the game."




if you cant see how a guarded nice path to the back of your enemys main directly from your main with a nice tiny choke is a problem zvt(and potentially in other matchups as well) then dont just pull random stuff Z have to do. shakuras is a nice map, the backdoor is a problem in those spawns tho and it was just a matter of time till the use of that get standart.


still dont hate the player. there is no reason to push thru a big long distance middle(plus the backdoor to worry about) when you can safely push at the back.

On February 07 2011 22:41 TheCrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2011 21:40 DND_Enkil wrote:
Why oh why do every EG vs "Some other team" turn into a shitstorm???

Great games, great tournament and then I log onto TL to read about it and its this steaming pile of crap as usual...

Drewbie beat IdrA in favorable positions and favorable latency but it was still a legit win.


Its kind of hard to avoid the "shitstorm", e-sports is getting closer and closer to real sports and the discussions/fights/brawls between supporters have never been pretty in sports, we certainly aren't talking about calm discussions. The e-hooligans are here to stay, and in a way I don't really mind (though someone calling imba every game whoever wins is getting old), those terrans will never admit they are playing the ez-mode race anyways (joke)

ye true. but the difference is that in real sports the viewers dont always assume to know evrything and be better then the players

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Huragius
Profile Joined September 2010
Lithuania1506 Posts
February 07 2011 14:08 GMT
#234
On February 06 2011 22:42 drewbie.root wrote:
No it's OK, it is pretty much impossible to play 100% when playing between NA and Korea, I recently got a Korean account, and you really can't micro at all. I do feel that I had an advantage the whole game, IdrA could have easily stopped my harass at the start ( the bunker is not hard to stop, just have a drone follow the scv, and I go 1 rax FE into blue flame pretty much every TvZ so IdrA should have expected it and prepared a bit better defense, even though it didn't really do a ton of damage ) but the map is pretty imbalanced and there is not much that Z can do in that situation. Hopefully next time we play, it will be on even grounds and we can have a better game.


A hero.
TheCrow
Profile Joined January 2011
Norway296 Posts
February 07 2011 14:23 GMT
#235
On February 07 2011 22:52 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:
ye true. but the difference is that in real sports the viewers dont always assume to know evrything and be better then the players



I respectfully disagree. Tons and tons and tons upon supporters think the coach is an idiot for putting in that player, or think the player was an idiot for not passing or for being too greedy with the ball etc. And this is often coming from people that has never even played the game. At least most e-sports supporters play the game actively every day.
Iloja
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany29 Posts
February 07 2011 15:49 GMT
#236
Wow, for a moment I thought I was on the battlenet-Forums with all the imba qq be it openly or "cleverly" disguised as a joke :/

Congrats to Root, especially on the way they express themselves here on the forums, like true winners, kudos!
Ultramus
Profile Joined June 2010
United States319 Posts
February 08 2011 02:24 GMT
#237
Drewbiw so manner

Good games guys. Obv Idra had some lag issues but still a good game. As good as he is anyone can drop games in this game, and no shame losing to Drewbie. Jeez so much drama on TL t.t
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